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Microsoft's eyeing free, ad-supported products while companies dump "big beast" software projects in favor of hosted.

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That's the problem right there...
by ordaj November 17, 2005 1:04 PM PST
"...people fight for customer control..."

That's the problem right there.

Instead of "customer control" maybe some customer satisfaction would work better. Give the customer what they want. It usually starts with the product, but these days people are more concerned with getting money than the actual product.
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Translation:
by JLBer November 17, 2005 1:05 PM PST
I ran this through the MS Bulls**t and Translation Mechanism (TM, patent pending) and it came out with the following:

"We can no longer use our monopolistic powers to force people to pay $150 for an operating system that is not much of an upgrade from the previous verison. We also can no longer use our monopolistic power and FUD generator to make people want to pay $299 for an office suite with annoying, animated characters just so people can write letters to their Aunt Bertha in Sheboygan.

"Rather than try to increase the value of our software or lower our prices in order to sell more units, we need to use even more nefarious tactics than we've used in the past to generate our revenue, even if it means futher pissing off our customers. We'll wrap Claria around a new version of Clippy and people will love it!"

Go ahead, Microsoft. Put adware in your software. Then sit back and watch people run in droves to OpenOffice, Linux, and numerous other open-source/freeware options that do everything that they need it to do for free without advertising. Throwing adware/spyware with MS apps is the best possible thing that could happen for Linux, Solaris, Mac, and open source software.
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While, as it is reported....
by Captain_Spock November 17, 2005 2:11 PM PST
... that "Open-source advocates argue that open-source software, such as databases or business intelligence tools, is cheaper than existing products. Also, by giving away software--at least, initially--open-source companies do not need to invest as much in sales and marketing, according to analysts and industry executives"... then just what are the obstacles being confronted by companies such as Microsoft and others -- the fool hardy approach and belief that they can sit in Redmond and elsewhere and push all variants of non-functioning products to the consuming populace around the world; not so any longer; time for change, the answer -- develop and present products and services that make plenty of sense to users (better business "analytical" tools and consumer products et cetera) and we all can live happily ever after!
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Software prices and software profession..
by indrakanti November 17, 2005 4:39 PM PST
I think the problem with the software industry is two fold..

First, every software maker tries to rush new versions through the door while leaving the code full of holes and exposing customers to horrendous cycle of patches and updates. If GM or Toyota release new car model they do their best at the design and manufacturing level to avoid all flaws, which otherwise might result in extremely expensive recalls. Software industry knows, they can getaway by releasing fixes. After all this, how can they expect the customer - whether individual or corporate - to go through the same ordeal by upgrading to a new version which again is full of holes.

The second problem is, IMO, software professionals are overpaid. I am not a software or computer engineer. But, I do know that in my profession, which is chemical scieces, people with advanced degrees (Ph.D. + few years of academic training) get paid around 80K when they join Biotech or Pharma industry. In complete contrast, a guy with a bachelors degree and and couple of years of training writing code is paid much more. Consider that software companies do not have to establish expensive laboratory and production facilities.

I think when these companies wake up, spend more time on code in the first place, and are willing to sacrifice part of their bloated paycheck, then the things will get better.
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Not true of programmers...
by ballssalty November 17, 2005 5:08 PM PST
Anymore. That used to be the case but thanks to outsourcing the salary a computer programmer brings in is now in the $40's and low $50's per yer.
M$ Office is dead...
by AimsAlpha November 17, 2005 4:55 PM PST
I never thought I'd say this, but the open source market will be the deathblow to M$ applications such as Office. An office suite is a must have to any student such as myself, but I'm not in a position to pay a few hundred dollars just for a word processor or a spreadsheet application. I say check out openoffice.org. You will find replacements for all the applications in M$ office for almost 80% qulaity.
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Maybe....
by Captain_Spock November 17, 2005 5:59 PM PST
... but what about the S-E-R-V-I-C-E-S offerings that is soon likely to be touted by Redmond! The big question is -- how soon will the world see a reduction in the present 90% market share Microsoft is reported to control in the desktop space!
Not so fast...
by Betty Roper November 17, 2005 6:21 PM PST
You're not the target customer for MS Office. Enterprise customers are (though they sell a reduced price student version). It makes perfect sense that you would find your needs met by free software, but by catering to people who would not normally buy MS anyway OpenOffice doesn't impact MS marketshare.
MS Office
by Yuhong2 November 17, 2005 6:34 PM PST
You can purchase the programs included in Microsoft Office individually.
Nothing is without reason...
by Mark_Smith November 17, 2005 5:46 PM PST
Microsoft can be seeing some market changes about people struggling to pay for software as we do these days.

But the same changing can be nocive to MS but at same time, profitable. Why? The piracy risks will be dramatically decreased. Or....someone will do a copy of hotmail and sell or give away? Someone copied gmail already and sold it?

This is not a new subject, if movie industry (or study groups) say DVD's will die when they improve "Video on Demand", "software on demand" is not so new, but a predictable step.

We just need a faster web. But seems the future is not so far.

And meanwhile, Uncle Bill does his marketing, posing as saint, saying windows will be free, and so on. A positive marketing strategy. It's almost 15 minutes of being saint.

Talking about being saint, if MS is the evil empire, why Apple wants to be the new Microsoft? And why Google wants to be the new Microsoft? Trade/marketing/commercial strategies can change from company to company, but the final result is the "Bill Gates'syndrome" or "It's mine, I control, sit down, lay down, bark!"
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I thought...
by Mark_Smith November 17, 2005 6:00 PM PST
Some 8 years ago, i thought the best job that someone could have would be a software programmer. Why? Its simple, but dont think im being "against the computers" as the industrial revolution began centuries ago. But since this computer stuff thing, i saw many jobs and professions disappear.

The programmer is always on top, restructuring in some way the work and the way the world works.

Some time s i think, the computer will eat itself. And thinking in an apocaliptical science fiction, if the jobs are disapearing, and the software remain expensive, who will buy software?

And now Microsoft says theres a software crisis out there.
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cant stand msn.com
by digitallysick November 17, 2005 6:11 PM PST
i cant even read the articles without "lower my bills" flashing in psychadellic colors trying to give me a sezuire , in the middle of the article, this tells me that MS is going down hill if they have went to this level
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Blasts From The Past!
by Captain_Spock November 18, 2005 7:28 AM PST
"Ahh, the opportunities missed"......

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18420

"OpenDoc was invented to solve this and quite a few other problems. OpenDoc is a way of building compound documents with collections of small, portable components called Parts. These parts reside in Containers, and you can put any type of part into any kind of container. Learn only one text-editing part and you can put it into any document container you please. The same goes for spreadsheet parts, or graphics parts, spellchecking parts and so on".

http://www.os2ezine.com/v1n13/opendoc.htm
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