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Discussion grows over whether the Web will become the next computing platform, and whether Microsoft can compete if it does.

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Google Vs MS
by September 27, 2005 8:29 PM PDT
I would think that GOOGLE has got its strength in the "web" market place, but does it have the power to sustain without extending into DB or Apps market space? MS or Oracle cannot be te right partner.. so ...Would not be a bad idea for Google to "Gobble" up SAP. Not really far fetched right?

SAP will loose its grip on the market slowly due to internal reasons.. Also the high end market is getting smaller and smaller, which shall Market is very positive on them, but it is going belly up - 2007-08 would be the right time for this to occur. Google has got the money and the investor confidence...
SAP devouts - dont get mad this is jut my thoughts - GOOGLE will survive
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Why I Believe Microsoft Would Win!
by Captain_Spock September 27, 2005 10:35 PM PDT
That we are at the beginning of yet another "battle" in the quest by some companies for supremacy in the computer age in which we have been living for the last few decades it is no wonder that there is now keen interest as to what will be the outcome of the duel between Microsoft and Google.

At this time I should like remind those of us who were looking forward to the "showdown" between IBM's OS/2 and Microsoft's Windows during the mid 90's; and, I suppose I do not have to mention again the name - Netscape; here is my point, like the Linux OS; (and, Google does appear to be in need its own Operating System as some may have quite rightly observed) IBM up to this point in time is unable to release the OS/2 Source Code to the open-source community because of proprietary issues with certain companies and your guess would be as good as mine as to which particular would be involved here, any guesses! That was the first point; now, here is the second point - Windows as we now know it was in its infancy the half brother of OS/2 and my assumption here is that since OS/2 was the de facto "networking" client (the web once again being seen as the platform) at the time much of its "code base" is still in Microsoft's artillery shells; beyond this are the possibilities that thousands of Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) remain as part of the "Crown Jewels" under Microsoft's control) are thoughts been given to the legal objections and the costs that would be involved should there be a challenge in the courts by Google or any other company.

Now, here is the the other point, the Gates camp as part of a possibly diversification strategy have already cast their eyes on the development of the "Air Taxi" and autos now sport a significant percentage of computerized products as well as they have the war "chest" to wage what is widely believed that they are very good at - a "marketing" strategy.

As a reminder, there was a company called Connectix Corporation that developed products that enabled Windows to host other OSes; so, with maturity of the Windows platform lets not hope that the "Google Desktop" go the way of IBM's OS/2 and Connectix Corporation's Virtual PC!
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Why I Believe Microsoft Would Win!
by Captain_Spock September 27, 2005 10:35 PM PDT
That we are at the beginning of yet another "battle" in the quest by some companies for supremacy in the computer age in which we have been living for the last few decades it is no wonder that there is now keen interest as to what will be the outcome of the duel between Microsoft and Google.

At this time I should like remind those of us who were looking forward to the "showdown" between IBM's OS/2 and Microsoft's Windows during the mid 90's; and, I suppose I do not have to mention again the name - Netscape; here is my point, like the Linux OS; (and, Google does appear to be in need its own Operating System as some may have quite rightly observed) IBM up to this point in time is unable to release the OS/2 Source Code to the open-source community because of proprietary issues with certain companies and your guess would be as good as mine as to which particular would be involved here, any guesses! That was the first point; now, here is the second point - Windows as we now know it was in its infancy the half brother of OS/2 and my assumption here is that since OS/2 was the de facto "networking" client (the web once again being seen as the platform) at the time much of its "code base" is still in Microsoft's artillery shells; beyond this are the possibilities that thousands of Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) remain as part of the "Crown Jewels" under Microsoft's control) are thoughts been given to the legal objections and the costs that would be involved should there be a challenge in the courts by Google or any other company.

Now, here is the the other point, the Gates camp as part of a possibly diversification strategy have already cast their eyes on the development of the "Air Taxi" and autos now sport a significant percentage of computerized products as well as they have the war "chest" to wage what is widely believed that they are very good at - a "marketing" strategy.

As a reminder, there was a company called Connectix Corporation that developed products that enabled Windows to host other OSes; so, with maturity of the Windows platform lets not hope that the "Google Desktop" go the way of IBM's OS/2 and Connectix Corporation's Virtual PC!
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Why I Believe Microsoft Would Win!
by Captain_Spock September 27, 2005 10:35 PM PDT
That we are at the beginning of yet another "battle" in the quest by some companies for supremacy in the computer age in which we have been living for the last few decades it is no wonder that there is now keen interest as to what will be the outcome of the duel between Microsoft and Google.

At this time I should like remind those of us who were looking forward to the "showdown" between IBM's OS/2 and Microsoft's Windows during the mid 90's; and, I suppose I do not have to mention again the name - Netscape; here is my point, like the Linux OS; (and, Google does appear to be in need its own Operating System as some may have quite rightly observed) IBM up to this point in time is unable to release the OS/2 Source Code to the open-source community because of proprietary issues with certain companies and your guess would be as good as mine as to which particular would be involved here, any guesses! That was the first point; now, here is the second point - Windows as we now know it was in its infancy the half brother of OS/2 and my assumption here is that since OS/2 was the de facto "networking" client (the web once again being seen as the platform) at the time much of its "code base" is still in Microsoft's artillery shells; beyond this are the possibilities that thousands of Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) remain as part of the "Crown Jewels" under Microsoft's control) are thoughts been given to the legal objections and the costs that would be involved should there be a challenge in the courts by Google or any other company.

Now, here is the the other point, the Gates camp as part of a possibly diversification strategy have already cast their eyes on the development of the "Air Taxi" and autos now sport a significant percentage of computerized products as well as they have the war "chest" to wage what is widely believed that they are very good at - a "marketing" strategy.

As a reminder, there was a company called Connectix Corporation that developed products that enabled Windows to host other OSes; so, with maturity of the Windows platform lets not hope that the "Google Desktop" go the way of IBM's OS/2 and Connectix Corporation's Virtual PC!
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Soft's gotta get less greedy if they wanna win!
by angrybulldog September 28, 2005 11:09 AM PDT
With Bill, Steve and the execs hoarding all that cash while cutting benefits and stock options--plus a truly stagnant stock price--they better try again to get the net (again) and Web 2.0 quickly before the parking lot is empty (here) even sooner than the 5:00 mass exodus that plagues it already. the angrybulldog
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Soft's gotta get less greedy if they wanna win!
by angrybulldog September 28, 2005 11:09 AM PDT
With Bill, Steve and the execs hoarding all that cash while cutting benefits and stock options--plus a truly stagnant stock price--they better try again to get the net (again) and Web 2.0 quickly before the parking lot is empty (here) even sooner than the 5:00 mass exodus that plagues it already. the angrybulldog
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Soft's gotta get less greedy if they wanna win!
by angrybulldog September 28, 2005 11:09 AM PDT
With Bill, Steve and the execs hoarding all that cash while cutting benefits and stock options--plus a truly stagnant stock price--they better try again to get the net (again) and Web 2.0 quickly before the parking lot is empty (here) even sooner than the 5:00 mass exodus that plagues it already. the angrybulldog
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Google wants to own online relationships
by LMarriner September 28, 2005 12:53 PM PDT
Google wants to bring consumers into its ecosystem as soon as they open their PC, and completely bypass the Windows desktop ecosystem. In this model, the PC and Windows are just a conduit to the web, necessary only to manage the hardware and peripherals, and Google is like an internet operating system. Google is following an integrated model offering many services in one place (not unlike what Microsoft did with Office on the PC) so a home PC user can do most of what they want to do from the Google platform.

Handling photos is a good example. Consumers are confused over what software to use to save, edit, organize and print their photos. Google offers Picasa for free and positions it as the place to start when downloading digital photos. Then consumers can use Hello to photo-share and chat, or Blogger or attach a photo to an email. Google may be able to monetize this consumer traffic by passing consumers on to printing sites for a share of revenue, plus they get advertising revenue on their site based on number of eyeballs.

This scenario could end with consumer?s primary emotional attachment and brand identification on the PC being with Google. Will we see a $200 Google PC that accesse the web, supports email and IM, manages photos, schedules and online shopping and integrates with your mobile phone?
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Google wants to own online relationships
by LMarriner September 28, 2005 12:53 PM PDT
Google wants to bring consumers into its ecosystem as soon as they open their PC, and completely bypass the Windows desktop ecosystem. In this model, the PC and Windows are just a conduit to the web, necessary only to manage the hardware and peripherals, and Google is like an internet operating system. Google is following an integrated model offering many services in one place (not unlike what Microsoft did with Office on the PC) so a home PC user can do most of what they want to do from the Google platform.

Handling photos is a good example. Consumers are confused over what software to use to save, edit, organize and print their photos. Google offers Picasa for free and positions it as the place to start when downloading digital photos. Then consumers can use Hello to photo-share and chat, or Blogger or attach a photo to an email. Google may be able to monetize this consumer traffic by passing consumers on to printing sites for a share of revenue, plus they get advertising revenue on their site based on number of eyeballs.

This scenario could end with consumer?s primary emotional attachment and brand identification on the PC being with Google. Will we see a $200 Google PC that accesse the web, supports email and IM, manages photos, schedules and online shopping and integrates with your mobile phone?
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Google wants to own online relationships
by LMarriner September 28, 2005 12:53 PM PDT
Google wants to bring consumers into its ecosystem as soon as they open their PC, and completely bypass the Windows desktop ecosystem. In this model, the PC and Windows are just a conduit to the web, necessary only to manage the hardware and peripherals, and Google is like an internet operating system. Google is following an integrated model offering many services in one place (not unlike what Microsoft did with Office on the PC) so a home PC user can do most of what they want to do from the Google platform.

Handling photos is a good example. Consumers are confused over what software to use to save, edit, organize and print their photos. Google offers Picasa for free and positions it as the place to start when downloading digital photos. Then consumers can use Hello to photo-share and chat, or Blogger or attach a photo to an email. Google may be able to monetize this consumer traffic by passing consumers on to printing sites for a share of revenue, plus they get advertising revenue on their site based on number of eyeballs.

This scenario could end with consumer?s primary emotional attachment and brand identification on the PC being with Google. Will we see a $200 Google PC that accesse the web, supports email and IM, manages photos, schedules and online shopping and integrates with your mobile phone?
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Google is not a threat it is just competition
by September 29, 2005 1:12 PM PDT
Google is not a threat to Microsoft it just threats Microsoft way of doing business. For years Microsoft believed that their market share should be 100%. The maturing web environment created a new platform that is already available to the majority of the desktops. So now that the platform is available the desktop software market is ripe for competition. Microsoft will have to learn to compete in a world where they don't have the Platform advantage on their side.
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Google is not a threat it is just competition
by September 29, 2005 1:12 PM PDT
Google is not a threat to Microsoft it just threats Microsoft way of doing business. For years Microsoft believed that their market share should be 100%. The maturing web environment created a new platform that is already available to the majority of the desktops. So now that the platform is available the desktop software market is ripe for competition. Microsoft will have to learn to compete in a world where they don't have the Platform advantage on their side.
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Google is not a threat it is just competition
by September 29, 2005 1:12 PM PDT
Google is not a threat to Microsoft it just threats Microsoft way of doing business. For years Microsoft believed that their market share should be 100%. The maturing web environment created a new platform that is already available to the majority of the desktops. So now that the platform is available the desktop software market is ripe for competition. Microsoft will have to learn to compete in a world where they don't have the Platform advantage on their side.
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Lack of Broadband in the US.
by Robert Wiseman September 29, 2005 5:57 PM PDT
I live exactly 12 miles from I-15 in San Diego County, and there are no broadband available except for DirectWay via Satellite --- Until broadband is readily available and cheap ---- Microsoft will still be king.

About Google vs. Microsoft ---- Google is a me to company in everything they do ---- given the fact that their search engine maybe a little better ---the business model have yet to pass the test of time. My money is still on Bill and Microsoft.
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Lack of Broadband in the US.
by Robert Wiseman September 29, 2005 5:57 PM PDT
I live exactly 12 miles from I-15 in San Diego County, and there are no broadband available except for DirectWay via Satellite --- Until broadband is readily available and cheap ---- Microsoft will still be king.

About Google vs. Microsoft ---- Google is a me to company in everything they do ---- given the fact that their search engine maybe a little better ---the business model have yet to pass the test of time. My money is still on Bill and Microsoft.
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Lack of Broadband in the US.
by Robert Wiseman September 29, 2005 5:57 PM PDT
I live exactly 12 miles from I-15 in San Diego County, and there are no broadband available except for DirectWay via Satellite --- Until broadband is readily available and cheap ---- Microsoft will still be king.

About Google vs. Microsoft ---- Google is a me to company in everything they do ---- given the fact that their search engine maybe a little better ---the business model have yet to pass the test of time. My money is still on Bill and Microsoft.
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