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Company readies a new test release of Acrylic while it plots out a second tool for graphics designers.

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Ain't Gonna Happen...
by August 15, 2005 10:38 AM PDT
List for me the number of successful graphics apps MSoft has
built...

Yeah, that's what I thought. There is a belief that anything with the
MSoft name is bound to dominate its respective market. If
FrontPage is any indication, they haven't the slightest chance.
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i hope you're right
by Scott W August 15, 2005 11:03 AM PDT
we can only hope you are right. luckily the graphics market is mature, which leaves it harder for MS to penetrate with their inferior products. add to the fact that they aren't "integrating" it into windows and giving it away (*cough, office, *cough) then this leaves them with a strong opponent in adobe.
Oh come on!
by August 15, 2005 11:08 AM PDT
Frontpage, Internet Explorer, Microsoft is all over web technologies,
quite possibly the best of what's available! *rolls eyes*
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Whistling past the graveyard...
by August 16, 2005 8:54 AM PDT
List for *me* the number of companies that took your attitude and were successful at holding MS back.

Yeah, that's what *I* thought.

MS has never seriously gone after this market in a coordinated way before. Go talk to Lotus about what happens when MS gets its act together.
I think that I'll pass on this one...
by Earl Benser August 15, 2005 11:25 AM PDT
Acrylic Version Alpha-1 was such a loser's disaster that I have no
interest in what MS may have done to this graphical latrine pit. MS
just doesn't have a clue about graphics. So Ta Ta MS, i'd rather go
with Adobe - which holds the championship belt for bloatware, but
does understand graphics.
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Microsoft trying to pull rug from under OpenGL!
by JuggerNaut August 15, 2005 12:06 PM PDT
Go to OpenGL.org to find out what exactly is going on...

http://www.opengl.org/
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Metro worries me
by August 15, 2005 12:24 PM PDT
MS Windows is the ONLY modern operating system that doesn't
support the ability to create PDFs or read PDFs natively. One
MUST download and purchase Adobe products to do this. OS X
and Linux have PDF creation and reading built in. PDF is an
open, well-documented, free standard, thanks to Adobe.

When I ask my Windows colleagues to stop emailing me Word
documents, and instead print them to PDF and email those
instead, their eyes glaze over. I don't want to read what they
have to say using a $300.00 editor. PDF will do just fine,
thanks.

Why won't MS support PDF natively? Well, its clear now.
Introduce Metro, make it proprietary, and push users to
exchange memos using Metro. Users will be overjoyed with this
"innovative" technology. And they'll be locked in.

Same old story.

Adobe would be smart to release their PDF Printer for free to the
Windows world, educate users on the benefits of printing to PDF,
and hope to curtail Metro.
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Use the Export to PDF in StarOffice/OpenOffice.org
by JuggerNaut August 15, 2005 12:41 PM PDT
It is quite crazy that most Windows users are still unaware of PDF
and its cross-platform greatness. I recently showed a friend how
to export to PDF using StarOffice 8 beta and he said that he'd buy
SO for just that feature alone. I use PDF extensively for emailing
read-only documents to friends and colleagues. The great thing
about PDF is that it's everywhere.
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Adobe is the graphics king.
by Stan Johnson August 15, 2005 6:06 PM PDT
Microsoft is just playing games. They can't touch Adobe or the professional graphics market as it stands now. Their new products won't attract anyone who is serious about graphics. On PDF, it is here to stay for the graphics professionals, especially when considering PDF-x1a for CMYK print production. Of course exclusive Office users will love this new stuff from Microsoft. Adobe is for the professional designers. MS is for amatures that need more to play with.
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'acrylic'
by FisherKingKQJ August 15, 2005 6:26 PM PDT
I had Front Page, but it was too large for the hard drive at the time. The same goes for Debian Linux. Now the hard drives are big enough maybe VMe on Lindows is the way to go for "acrylic" :) :) :)
Something to watch...
by Mendz August 15, 2005 7:47 PM PDT
It's as bloated as Photoshop but it has interesting features that are uniquely useful not available to Photoshop.
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Oh Geeez.....
by August 15, 2005 9:14 PM PDT
... And here we go again.
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An act of desperation
by robbzerr August 16, 2005 4:08 AM PDT
Microsoft needs new revenue streams and is desparate for any source. So, Acrylic. Who needs another version of Word when most of us use 10% of it? MS is a two hit wonder revenue-wise: Office and OS. It continues to try any model to continue the bonanza and monopoly it has tried so long. Perhaps it should spend more time working on security and an OS that doesn't crash. Some backward compatability perhaps in products? Acrylic is the Bob of the 21st Century.
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PhotoDraw2006?
by August 16, 2005 6:38 AM PDT
This sounds a lot like PhotoDraw2000. Microsoft dropped that product from its Office suite pretty quickly, but it's still my favorite graphics program. It does everything I need, but without the overkill that Adobe has. If you watch the demo video of Acrylic on their web site, PhotoDraw2000 did everything they demonstrate.
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Etch A Sketch with a Broken Knob
by August 16, 2005 7:16 AM PDT
Given Microsoft's history of product quality and
"innovation", (poorly executed Apple rip-offs), I'm even more
enticed to buy stock in Adobe.

PASS.
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heh
by August 16, 2005 7:25 AM PDT
I know it. It's like they're trying to be better than even Core Image, which won't happen. Core Image is pretty awesome, and it's free.

But like you said, this is Adobe's domain. Pushing away Photoshop Elements could be a bad move for MS.
Windows can draw pretty pictures too...NOT!
by Llib Setag August 16, 2005 11:34 AM PDT
PAST POSTING that needs to be seen again...

Get a clue Citizen Gates. You have bragged for years that
Microsith is a serious " business" software company.
NOW all of a sudden, gee Microsith can do "graphics & photos &
web design & music, etc. " just like that "toy computer" company
APPLE. Multimedia is hotter market now that the "old business"
model that you base MS on, fewer upgrades to MS-OS, fewer
upgrades to MS-OFFICE cash cow, fewer people updating or
buying WIN-PCs, Apple & Adobe are hotter than ever in the
consumer marketplace, so WAIT A MINUTE!, Windows can be
creative too! (Billion dollar campaign " Try XP " commercials
from computer software monopoly?)....

Gates is a geek bully & Jobs is a cool multimedia mogel.


MS Death Star to Adobe/Macromedia/Apple
Posted by: Llib Setag
Posted on: June 2, 2005, 6:01 PM PDT
Story: Longhorn photo support comes into focus
It is painfully obvious that Citizen Gates is out to be the Darth
Vader of creativity computing.

MS has attempted for years to topple Adobe & Apple in the
arenas of professional press publication, ColorSync, Acrobat &
digital photo / video processing.

Citizen Gates even went to the great lengths of buying millions
of photographic rights, building a huge digital photo database &
opening Corbis as his own company outside of MS, so he could
control & make billions of royalties from professional
photographers & publishing houses.

MS has lamely attempted to put out "prosumer" PhotoPC
software for years without success to the point that they have to
give it away with "Discount Dells".

Citizen Gates has also attempted to alter & undermine native
Java / Flash coding with "Windows-compatible" versions of their
own "interpretations" of Java/Flash in order to derail & dillute
NON-MS coding on the Internet.

Gates has recently be very public about developing an Adobe
Acrobat PDF killer-app within ShorthornOS in 2006/07/08/??.

MS doesnot have a built-in / included "Apple iLife Suite"
equivilant (not even close) with MSXP.

This is such a slimy attempt to kill Photoshop/iPhoto/RAW file
protocols within the entire digital creative industry in order to
have world dominance in the realm of digital media all being
"managed" through MSOS.

DOJ are splineless drones bowing down to the one they serve. All
Hail Darth Gates
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This guy likes it...
by lancert August 16, 2005 8:20 PM PDT
This person reviewed it and seems to like it:

http://www.bd4d.com/blog/?p=50

I haven't tried it yet but plan to do so soon.

If it can do vector and pixel images in one ap, I'm there. I'm tired of shelling out big $$$ for Photoshop & Illustrator...

Lance

Lance
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Duh You Need a Mac Version First
by ca5ter August 20, 2005 11:46 AM PDT
Well you would think that if MS really wanted to tap into the
professional design market they target the 90% of them that are on
Macs. Nope this is just another crappy program from Pinky
(Ballmer) and the Brain (Gates).

PS. Maybe they should save their money for the xbox.
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It's about time
by August 20, 2005 3:39 PM PDT
Until now, Microsoft has had only sporadic interest in the graphics market. But with this product, it looks like they are now serious about it.
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