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Comments on: Microsoft offers peek at next Office suite

Software giant offers few specifics, but areas it sees ripe for improvement include enhanced collaboration and individual productivity.

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This is the wrong direction for application development
by May 18, 2005 10:39 PM PDT
Bill G. needs to take a lession from Unix. "Do one thing well" Look at FireFox. It's a web browser. Email and news are handled by Thunderbird. If I want to edit a web page, I use a text editor, not Netscape 8.0.
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Partially agree.
by katamari May 19, 2005 12:51 AM PDT
I agree this is the wrong direction for Office to take, but for different reasons. Although I congratulate Microsoft for wanting their Office suite to be XML-compliant, the remaining additions seem to be scatter-brained at best.

Office has had a history of going from small to large to outrageously bloated to small again. A riches-to-rages-to-riches sort-of scenario. I believe Office will slowly begin to transition to that "large" category again, and we're going to eventually end up with quad-CD Office installations like we did 6-7 years ago. On the bright side, at least Microsoft has "standardised" their applications look and feel...

There's too much creeping featurism in many of the Office applications, which is going to be its downfall. I want a word processor, not something that can do tasks for me. Did these guys never have the chance to use AppleWorks for the Apple ][ during their childhood? ;-)

I disagree with your comparison of Office to the "mentality" behind *IX applications and the "Do it right once" mentality. Open-source is living proof no one can do it right once -- but instead, do it again and again and again and never get it right.
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Suite?
by KTLA_knew May 19, 2005 6:50 AM PDT
Wow, put all those applications together on one system, and you have a new invention you could invent a new term for, perhaps "suite"?

And since it's likely that your web page designer or email client will need some internet functionality (which your browser alreay has), perhaps building these apps so they can leverage each others' capabilities would be in order.

Hmmm, where does that leave you?
not really, it's strategical
by alx359 May 19, 2005 1:16 AM PDT
Having strong positions in one field (Office) gives them extra synergy for inroads into other apps markets through integration.

But really it's not only about subversive competition. Integrate-all is pivotal as an alternative business model to open-source, implicitly embracing the Unix concept of "one task one app". Only MS and the like can do this as they're an "integrated" monolitical organizations themselves. In the long-term they should prove that integrated software development produces more usable apps for the masses than a big bunch of loosely-coupled apps doing well one task. Both concepts have a rationale and their followers. We shall see.
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I still use Office 97
by bobby_brady May 19, 2005 9:47 AM PDT
and it works just fine for me!
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Office 97
by System Tyrant May 19, 2005 9:58 AM PDT
I got a free copy of Office 97 when I went to a Microsoft meeting. I used it for a long time, but now it just collects dust on my shelf. I have since moved on to WordPerfect Office 12.
If you're using Office 97...
by May 19, 2005 11:10 AM PDT
... then you probably aren't exchanging files
with folks using newer versions of Word (like
Word XP) that introduce new file format
incompatibilities.

One reason our company doesn't upgrade the Win2K
desktops to WinXP is that they hadn't budgeted
for upgrading Office. We are using Office 2K,
which failed the compatibility tests for XP. I
almost had a stroke laughing so hard when I
heard that...
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I am the same way..
by unknown unknown May 23, 2005 9:22 PM PDT
I haven't found a compelling reason to spend the $200, or whatever Microsoft is asking for Office these days , on a new version when 97 does everything I need. Recent I started using Open Office simply because it's still being supported and actively developed which is good should a security issue come up and it has better support for newer formats.
Why is it only Microsoft Office spreads viruses?
by aabcdefghij987654321 May 19, 2005 3:58 PM PDT
My theory is most consumers of software have a "herd of sheep"-like mentality. Take the MS Office situation.

There is no such thing as an office document macro virus, only a Microsoft Office document macro virus. There are no Corel Word Perfect viruses, no Open Office viruses, etc.

$500 for all the bells and whistles? (And other various Microsoft viruses) Why would anyone in his/her right mind pay that when every other office package is cheaper (or free) as well as more stable, compatible, no viruses, etc? The only thing alternatives are missing is the internal MS Office virus generator. That's a feature I can live without.
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Don't underestimate the value of viri
by pcLoadLetter May 19, 2005 5:06 PM PDT
Imagine the love you will feel, when MS does you the huge 'favor' of fixing the exploitable code.

You just can't simply put a value on that sort of love. ;)
Let's hope that these products are for real this time around!
by May 19, 2005 8:46 PM PDT
Have we all ever given thought to the fact that over time - since the inception of the PC as we have come to know it... how many times there have been upgrades to the various software and hardware products we use - lets say a business plan is to be developed an presented to an international financial institution for funding (most likely certain criteria will have to be met) this can either be completed "manually" or by the use of a computer; but, here is the deal, the specific application/s is/are not available using this new "collaborative" WXY suites that companies Z, Q, M and B have been apparently experimenting with through the availability of yours (and mine) $$$ over the years if this is not the case then what do you do with your old computer/s and software when comes the time for the upgrades (experiments that still cannot meet all your requirements... (why the need to upgrades, I guess some folks did not get it "right" the first time around; that is, the way people work/wish to work or collaborate, communicate or cooperate ;-) ) that again have to be funded by you? Will you still be interested in purchasing these products!!!

;-)
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