Comments on: Sun Blackbox, meet APC's whitebox

American Power Conversion has squeezed a data center into a truck, but it doesn't expect customers for a couple of years.

[hutchike]

Black box has some patents pending

I understand that Sun's Black Box has some patents pending, including one for its cooling via water pipes. The Sun concept box appears to be a more complete and compact solution than the truck trailer idea. Also Sun is planning to really put these into production.

[jabbotts]

both probably have uses

I can see the trucks being good for continental use. You can simply drive the truck to where you want and if need be, run the engine for a while to supliment the generators.

Though very similar, Sun's aproach offers the freedom of (if properly weather sealed) fitting any standar shipping container platform from truck bed to plane or freighter ship. It's more versatile but you have to provide your own truck for land travel.

I bet the military already has a bunch of similar things. It's not a huge leap of imagination to take a freighter, hid all your tech sensors then house your staff and equipment in "offices" built into shipping containers.

[isabelwang]

Whitebox May Not Be Road Ready

I saw APC's Whitebox about a year ago. It's sooo fabulously shiny! But (at least at the time) it was over most states' highway weight limits and so not readily transportable.

Also, I'm not sure it make sense to couple your data center with a truck. What if your engine breaks down or you have a flat tire? With a Sun Blackbox, you could switch vehicles. The Whitebox offers much less flexibility.

[jabbotts]

you have a freight crane handy?

The truck breaking down sucks but I think the generator is seporate from the engine so it's just the rollers you have to fix basically.

Switching trucks with your shipping container means you have to get a crane (one truck) plus the backup transport truck (now two trucks) along with the tow truck for the broken truck (four trucks involved now).

There are definately mobility benifits to the seporate container and truck aproach but the risk of a truck breakdown is inherent in either one.

[Chimera301]

Done way long ago

This was done over twenty years ago. One example is the DAS-3 system.

http://www.army.mil/CMH/books/DAHSUM/1982/ch07.htm

Excerpts:

Another important materiel information system is the Decentralized Automated Service Support System (DAS3). This is a tactical transportable computer system intended to automate manual operations or upgrade currently automated operations of active and reserve component units within the Combat Service Support (CSS) community. Each DAS3 will reflect the personality of its particular resident software. A large variety of software applications will address CSS functions of supply, maintenance, personnel, financial, ammunition, medical, transportation, and port operation management.

The first contract for the DAS3 was let on 28 April 1979 to the Management and Technical Services Company (MATSCO)
a subsidiary of General Electric Corporation. Initially fourteen prototypes were built, followed by the first production deliveries in December 1980. There are two DAS3 configurations currently planned: an A model and a B model. Both include Honeywell Level 6 Model 47 computers and peripherals mounted in a single 35-foot-long semitrailer van. The two configurations differ in the mix of peripherals, the amount of computer memory, and the inherent communications capability. The A model, currently in production at a rate of six per month, is intended for non divisional use by direct support and general support units as well as by ammunition and medical units. Current plans call for the production of 211 A models (including the 14 prototypes). The B model, scheduled to start deliveries in October 1983 at a rate of four per month, is intended for divisions, separate brigades, personnel units, and Military Traffic Management Command ports. Four test sets and 260 production sets are to be acquired.

[ElMartino1]

Please

First off, they built one. That's not saying much. Second, I did this in 1994 as part of my Marine Corps mechanized unit by putting their entire supply and requisitioning system inside one of these containers.

Sun or APC aren't the first ones to think of a fully mobile system by a long shot.

[cohaver]

US Army needs this

US Army and Intel maybe even Iraq gov needs a truck like this for tracking data with in Iraq gateway and cell phones they go along way in finding and tracking bad guys.instead of streaming it all somewhere else give the tools in field they need

[jabbotts]

they already have it

Iraq needs a government before they need one of these puppies. In any event, they already have access to it as long as the country remains US Mil occupied land. The previous few comments confirm (with documentation) that the Military had these things years ago. I'm sure there's at least one in the country already if not many smaller Hummer or Half Tone truck mounted versions.

Streaming processing to a remote location probably makes more sence than each unit having a super-computer rig with them. If your unit get's hit, all the data remains on the remote systems only loosing the terminal gear issued to the unit.

[Nemurikami]

Google?

Common guys, research.

Google did this with a shipping container (the kind that can be hauled by 18-wheelers) two years ago.

They both got beaten to the punch.

But, I'll put money on SUN's being the highest quality of all three.

Peace. ^_^