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Comments on: Social Engineering 101: Mitnick and other hackers show how it's done

Former jailed hacker Kevin Mitnick gives preview of his tell-all book and TV series in keynote and panel at Last HOPE hacker confab.

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by gadimari July 20, 2008 11:48 AM PDT
who caught this guy?
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by brotherbbad July 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
The cops if I'm not mistaken....
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by mrcoder July 20, 2008 2:57 PM PDT
The only person who can catch Mitnick is Mitnick.

He turned himself in if I'm not mistaken.
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by misfire99 July 20, 2008 3:50 PM PDT
And you are. The FBI busted him. You know there is this really great tool called google. Try it you'll like it.
by pelasgian-adslgr-com July 20, 2008 4:09 PM PDT
a) he's not a hacker
Linus Torvalds is a hacker, Kevin Mitnick is cracker.

b) if you make computers for fools, fools end-up using them.
So, the credit for the security problems of having fools using computers should be given to microsoft and not those who scum on them.

c) he was tracked down by a pirate hunter and e-crime forensic specialist called Tsutomu Shimomura
If you need to read a book, read the books he read to get Mitnick.
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by stix213 July 21, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
Anyone who still claims that the definition of "hacker" doesn't include "cracker" is a moron and is stuck in the 1980's. Definitions of words change overtime, including "hacker."

If I said that Mitnick was a really "cool" guy, would you think that I was referring to his internal temperature? Or would you understand as well that the definition of the word "cool" has also changed over time to mean more than temperature?
by name_of_shame July 20, 2008 9:18 PM PDT
The cops ate the doughnuts he left.
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by name_of_shame July 20, 2008 9:19 PM PDT
The cops ate the doughnuts he left.
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by The_Decider July 21, 2008 1:50 AM PDT
You can't really call Mitnick a hacker(give up trying to reclaim the word, it now means both cracker and clever programmer) or cracker.

He is light on technical skills but as anyone who knows even the slightest about security, he used the one tool that can get past any hardened system, no matter how solid it is. The weak link in security are the users and most users are woefully ignorant about security. Social Engineering works because either companies haven't spent enough time drilling security into the head of every employee from CEO down to the janitor. You can spend $1 billion on security and have the best of everything with a network team to match and it can still be beaten by a slick talker and an ignorant employee.

People look down on social engineers but they are the most effective at breaking into systems.
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by JimmyCrackhead July 21, 2008 4:32 AM PDT
Absolutely amazing. What a cool guy he must be. I would love to meet him and hang out.

JT
www.FireMe.To/udi
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by Johnr34231 July 21, 2008 4:36 AM PDT
Do I sense movie potential here.

Sort of "War Games" meets "Catch Me If You Can"

Maybe they can get Tom Hanks to do a reprisal on the FBI guy.

Kevin? I vote for Shia LeBeouf. He even looks a little like him.
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by bioskaz July 21, 2008 5:45 AM PDT
there already is a movie about him...
it's called hackers : takedown
by mallchin July 21, 2008 7:33 AM PDT
Someone beat you to it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0159784/
by mnovickar July 21, 2008 6:29 AM PDT
What about this thought - is the social engineering just more geekier than running a con or am I wrong??

N.
http://www.chilipress.com/technology.php
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by The_Decider July 21, 2008 9:31 AM PDT
No it is simply a con.
by thedreaming July 21, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
He's milking the "social engineering" thing again isn't he? Not the first time, won't be the last.
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by livecrunch July 21, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
Mitnick was my hero lol , when I was hacker wanna be 10 years ago :) I even bought shirt "free kevin" , anyways those script kid days are over, and he is still someone that is to adore of how security of gov can be so low protected.
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by SecurityNympho July 21, 2008 9:15 AM PDT
First off...who cares about whatever title a person is given.....thats lame. Hacker, Cracker, Phone HiJacker.......it's a title not worth arguing about.

The pathetic thing is Emmanual (a.k.a. "The Pedophile Wookie") always uses the same stunt on Starbucks. This is like the 3rd HOPE he has done the same exact thing. I am beginning to wonder if it's a friend that works there. Mitnick, The Wookie and their cronies have no real talent.....except fooling feable minded individuals (Kids and Media).
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by The_Decider July 21, 2008 9:34 AM PDT
No real talent?

Not really, but they do much much more damage than a cracker could do with far less effort.

In the end does it matter if the social engineer has no technical skills? He owns your network and data despite the lack of technical knowledge.
by 3r14nd July 21, 2008 9:36 AM PDT
The movie already exists....It's Tsutomu Shimomura version of the movie but it's out. It's called "trackdown". It's a good movie you should go get it.
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by chesh1410 July 21, 2008 10:34 AM PDT
Actually, it was called Takedown. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0159784/
by WJeansonne July 21, 2008 10:43 AM PDT
Only in America can crook profit from his or her illegal activities--past and present! What a joke our society is becoming.
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by The_Decider July 21, 2008 12:57 PM PDT
Only an MS fan could not comprehend how important it is that this sort of information is spread widely.

He paid his debt to society. What would you have him do?

a. Work in a non-computer related field
b. Use his experiences to help people
c. Go back to his old ways.

I don't condone what he did, but regardless of whether he is making money from spreading the word or not, he is providing a valuable service and by doing so is making amends.

You don't seem to mind that Microsoft makes money from their illegal activities. Why the double standard? I guarantee you that as much damage as Mitnick did, it pales in comparison to the damage that MS causes.
by TimeTraveler2000 July 21, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
Actually the movie is called 'Takedown', and Ill agree it is entertaining, tho Ive also read that K.M. was not very happy with the way the story was told.
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by The_Decider July 21, 2008 1:02 PM PDT
"Mitnick was put in solitary confinement and prevented from using a phone after law enforcement officials convinced a judge that he had the ability to start a nuclear war by whistling into a pay phone, he said."

I am not sure what is more sad, that the someone cooked up this obvious lie or that a judge was stupid enough to believe it.
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by richardpots July 21, 2008 1:24 PM PDT
well if you guys missed the event, I found a youtube video of the talk that kevin mitnick gave during hope. it's pretty cool, and shows his method of unmasking caller-ids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3S0RjrXhw0
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by wyoming.knott July 25, 2008 4:04 PM PDT
Mitnick is a media ***** whose knowledge and techniques are well known by everyone. He is irrelevant. He's just using his previous illegal activity to continue to make money. He's adding NOTHING new to the discussion.

SEND KEVIN BACK!
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by wyoming.knott July 25, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
I can't believe that ***** is a censored word on cnet. ***** == prostitute.
by wyoming.knott July 25, 2008 4:08 PM PDT
^Media prostitute^ ... since ***** is censored on cnet.
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