Comments on: More e-voting glitches surface

Almost 4,000 votes got added to Bush's Ohio count. Reports of minor glitches continue to turn up.

Does it really matter?

Kerry conceded. Bush wins. He would've won anyway. Do the e-vote mishaps really still matter?

[unknown unknown]

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If it means they will try to fix them, then yes. Also it might convince people to check their selection before they tell the machine to record their vote instead of just clicking through like they do with software EULAs.

yes it matters

4000 phantom votes may not matter, but what if it was 50,000 or 500,000?

Anything that could potentially manipulate elections matters, a lot. Wake up

[Jonathan]

Backtrack to Florida in 2000

Hell yes this matters. When a election is as close as what happened in Florida last go around. A screw-up in the thousands can win an election. Idiot.

Does it really matter?

Kerry conceded. Bush wins. He would've won anyway. Do the e-vote mishaps really still matter?

[unknown unknown]

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If it means they will try to fix them, then yes. Also it might convince people to check their selection before they tell the machine to record their vote instead of just clicking through like they do with software EULAs.

yes it matters

4000 phantom votes may not matter, but what if it was 50,000 or 500,000?

Anything that could potentially manipulate elections matters, a lot. Wake up

[Jonathan]

Backtrack to Florida in 2000

Hell yes this matters. When a election is as close as what happened in Florida last go around. A screw-up in the thousands can win an election. Idiot.

[Shutterstuff]

If only...

...the "Other" news sites got the story right! I cannot believe the headlines on some of the major brand news sites saying the election was off and so on.

Thanks News.com for stating the whole story!

[Shutterstuff]

If only...

...the "Other" news sites got the story right! I cannot believe the headlines on some of the major brand news sites saying the election was off and so on.

Thanks News.com for stating the whole story!

How many errors does it take to change the election

While a few errors in one precinct, or a few thousand in another may not be enough to change the election result, all those errors, and flipped votes on the emachines, added up across the country could be more than a substantial amount.

Every voting error needs to found and corrected.
A poll at a major national paper showed that 56% of those polled were unhappy with the election results.
That, with the reported voting errors, and the exit polls that don't match in states using electronic voting with no paper trail, and other voting anomolies says 'something fishy going on here".

We must make certain that every vote counts, that the malfunctioning machines are found, results corrected, and credited to the correct candidate.

Remember, it's the Bush bunch who paid the companies who make those machines.

Be Vigilant ! Our democracy is in danger of being lost to voting machines that can't be audited, or whose companies won't allow the code to be checked for glitches, accidental and deliberate.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/4/224812/643
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/#breaking
http://www.infernalpress.com/Columns/election.html
http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html , Bush Supporters Still Believe Iraq Had WMD or Major Program,Supported al Qaeda

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Is their hope?

Can the election be overturned? Is the concession
irreversible? Perhaps an independent audit is
warranted. Maybe we can still save this country.
I will pray.

How many errors does it take to change the election

While a few errors in one precinct, or a few thousand in another may not be enough to change the election result, all those errors, and flipped votes on the emachines, added up across the country could be more than a substantial amount.

Every voting error needs to found and corrected.
A poll at a major national paper showed that 56% of those polled were unhappy with the election results.
That, with the reported voting errors, and the exit polls that don't match in states using electronic voting with no paper trail, and other voting anomolies says 'something fishy going on here".

We must make certain that every vote counts, that the malfunctioning machines are found, results corrected, and credited to the correct candidate.

Remember, it's the Bush bunch who paid the companies who make those machines.

Be Vigilant ! Our democracy is in danger of being lost to voting machines that can't be audited, or whose companies won't allow the code to be checked for glitches, accidental and deliberate.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/4/224812/643
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/#breaking
http://www.infernalpress.com/Columns/election.html
http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html , Bush Supporters Still Believe Iraq Had WMD or Major Program,Supported al Qaeda

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Is their hope?

Can the election be overturned? Is the concession
irreversible? Perhaps an independent audit is
warranted. Maybe we can still save this country.
I will pray.

E Voting Needs more scrutiny

As a voter, I'd be interested to know more, not only about the
companies selling these systems, but also the companies
producing the actual software and the people that work for
these companies. Deibold is a big one. Maybe the most well
known. but what about looking at some of the other companies
like Enfocom International Corp (www.enfocom.com) , a
Canadian company producing e-
voting terminals and e-voting software called 'WINVote' for US
company Advanced Voting Systems. (www.advancedvoting.com)
More transparency will equate to better systems and lead to
higher voter confidence.

E Voting Needs more scrutiny

As a voter, I'd be interested to know more, not only about the
companies selling these systems, but also the companies
producing the actual software and the people that work for
these companies. Deibold is a big one. Maybe the most well
known. but what about looking at some of the other companies
like Enfocom International Corp (www.enfocom.com) , a
Canadian company producing e-
voting terminals and e-voting software called 'WINVote' for US
company Advanced Voting Systems. (www.advancedvoting.com)
More transparency will equate to better systems and lead to
higher voter confidence.

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did the EXIT POLLS for states with verifiable paper trails match the results ACROSS THE BOARD???? I am no activist, I am only asking. Where e-voting did not have a paper trail - bush lead in each of those states DESPITE exit poll leads by kerry. Even e-voting in Nevada matched their exit polls - by the way Nevada used a paper trail.

Go here - http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/todays_show.html
Go here - http://www.blackboxvoting.org

please go to

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did the EXIT POLLS for states with verifiable paper trails match the results ACROSS THE BOARD???? I am no activist, I am only asking. Where e-voting did not have a paper trail - bush lead in each of those states DESPITE exit poll leads by kerry. Even e-voting in Nevada matched their exit polls - by the way Nevada used a paper trail.

Go here - http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/todays_show.html
Go here - http://www.blackboxvoting.org

please go to

Want some form of proof

Google Max Cleland and the Georgia voting machine fraud that took place in 2002 - if you love this country you will at least take the time to learn and insist on verification of this election - Diebold owned by republican donors, ESS - former CEO is the newly elected Senator for Nebraska - HE WON ON HIS OWN MACHINES - HELLO! Is this not fishy????

Want some form of proof

Google Max Cleland and the Georgia voting machine fraud that took place in 2002 - if you love this country you will at least take the time to learn and insist on verification of this election - Diebold owned by republican donors, ESS - former CEO is the newly elected Senator for Nebraska - HE WON ON HIS OWN MACHINES - HELLO! Is this not fishy????

How come...

every time they find an error it turns out to be in favor of the
Republican candidate? That and the fact that the guy who owns
the company that makes the electronic voting machines just
happens to be a Republican is just a little too coincidental for
me.

How come...

every time they find an error it turns out to be in favor of the
Republican candidate? That and the fact that the guy who owns
the company that makes the electronic voting machines just
happens to be a Republican is just a little too coincidental for
me.

All concerned about e-voting need to read this site...

http://www.blackboxvoting.org
Be sure to play their one-minute "animation"
a movie showing how easy it is to "monkey around"
with the voting machine audit reports (records of who did what, and when, with the voting records!).

Yet another election stolen

This is just sad. How many errors have yet to be found? Why would election offices buy an untested system built by someone who benefits from making sure the machines are ont accurate?

If there is a hell, the lying, stealing cheating mass murderer named Bush has front row tickets.

BlackBoxVoting.org "monkeying" with the vote 1-min. movie

Be sure to see the humorous
one-min. movie linked from the site; a direct link to it is http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov

All concerned about e-voting need to read this site...

http://www.blackboxvoting.org
Be sure to play their one-minute "animation"
a movie showing how easy it is to "monkey around"
with the voting machine audit reports (records of who did what, and when, with the voting records!).

Yet another election stolen

This is just sad. How many errors have yet to be found? Why would election offices buy an untested system built by someone who benefits from making sure the machines are ont accurate?

If there is a hell, the lying, stealing cheating mass murderer named Bush has front row tickets.

BlackBoxVoting.org "monkeying" with the vote 1-min. movie

Be sure to see the humorous
one-min. movie linked from the site; a direct link to it is http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov

WHY THE VOTE IS NOT OVER

Bush clearly hacked the vote. That is an act of treason --
subversion of the Constitution -- and also a major federal
crime. Can we allow a criminal and a traitor to remain in the
White House and be Commander-in-Chief? Only the cynical
will say "That's how we always elect Presidents -- through
rigged votes." In that case, what part of our Constitution
and laws are actually meant to be taken literally? Why pay
taxes? The story about the "small frauds" here and there are
just the TIP OF THE ICEBERG. This is a story that is just
beginning to surface -- and it will certainly lead to a
change in our leadership. HOW CAN IT NOT?

Looking for Maria Ashot

Masha,

S Novym Godom, of course!

I lost your contact numbers, after a crazy 2004 for me.

I am back in SF Bay Area, my phone number is 510-595-7457.

Hope for your renewed contact.

Volodya

WHY THE VOTE IS NOT OVER

Bush clearly hacked the vote. That is an act of treason --
subversion of the Constitution -- and also a major federal
crime. Can we allow a criminal and a traitor to remain in the
White House and be Commander-in-Chief? Only the cynical
will say "That's how we always elect Presidents -- through
rigged votes." In that case, what part of our Constitution
and laws are actually meant to be taken literally? Why pay
taxes? The story about the "small frauds" here and there are
just the TIP OF THE ICEBERG. This is a story that is just
beginning to surface -- and it will certainly lead to a
change in our leadership. HOW CAN IT NOT?

Looking for Maria Ashot

Masha,

S Novym Godom, of course!

I lost your contact numbers, after a crazy 2004 for me.

I am back in SF Bay Area, my phone number is 510-595-7457.

Hope for your renewed contact.

Volodya

[elhs]

Official balloting counts were corrected!

Yes, an error was made in reporting a ballot count, and that error was found and corrected in the final official ballot tallies. What part of that process was so wrong? None that I can see. The counting of ballots cast is much less a problem than voter fraud due to provisional ballots, multi-state absentee ballot voting, ballots with candidates being omitted, media exit poll reporting...

You are missing the bigger picture

The fact is that electronic voting is far worse then the old system due to several factors.

1. Diebold is republican. Don't you think it is odd that every error so far due to e-voting went in bushes favor?

2. A lot of areas that use these machines are not printing out each ballot. This is a serious problem. The local precincts can report whatever they want and there is nothing substantial to prove or disprove it. Add this to #1 and our democracy is in danger of toppling.

Our election process is under a dark shadow of doubt. Democracy can not exist under such circumstances.

[elhs]

Official balloting counts were corrected!

Yes, an error was made in reporting a ballot count, and that error was found and corrected in the final official ballot tallies. What part of that process was so wrong? None that I can see. The counting of ballots cast is much less a problem than voter fraud due to provisional ballots, multi-state absentee ballot voting, ballots with candidates being omitted, media exit poll reporting...

You are missing the bigger picture

The fact is that electronic voting is far worse then the old system due to several factors.

1. Diebold is republican. Don't you think it is odd that every error so far due to e-voting went in bushes favor?

2. A lot of areas that use these machines are not printing out each ballot. This is a serious problem. The local precincts can report whatever they want and there is nothing substantial to prove or disprove it. Add this to #1 and our democracy is in danger of toppling.

Our election process is under a dark shadow of doubt. Democracy can not exist under such circumstances.