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MIT researchers find they can observe a rare, important form of hydrogen--as long as the neighbors turn the stereo off.

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Deuterium
by September 2, 2005 12:02 PM PDT
Deuterium evolved from the big bang. From which substance did
hydrogen evolve?
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Hydrogen
by aabcdefghij987654321 September 2, 2005 1:04 PM PDT
Deuterium is an Isotope of Hydrogen and both were formed at the same time (ie: the Big Bang). The difference is that the nucleus of a hydrogen atom is formed by a single proton while the nucleus Deuterium is formed by a proton and a neutron.

What the scientists are actually trying to measure is the overall ratio of hydrogen vs deuterium that was formed since that provides data on how many neutrons were formed and captured into atoms during that event.

Next on their list may be trying to catch the wavelength of Tritium which is even rarer vs Deuterium than Deuterium is vs Hydrogen (Tritium has two neutrons and is the only other stable hydrogen isotope).

It should also be noted that we only have separate names for the isotopes of hydrogen, all the other isotopes of elements are named by the element and the number of neutrons. Probably the most well known would be Uranium-238 (non-radioactive) vs Uranium-235 (radioactive -- there are in fact 16 different isotopes of Uranium), you may also be aware of Carbon-12 vs Carbon-14 which is used in dating organic materials.
Deutrium is an isotope of Hydrogen
by msims September 2, 2005 2:38 PM PDT
Deutrium as you may know is an isotope of hydrogen and their are two decay chains of Uranium, Uranium-238 non-radioactive and Uranium-235 radioactive.

Uranium 238 decays into the following chain in the half-life sequence:
Nuclide Half Life
Uranium 238 4.5 billion years
Thorium 234 24.5 days
Protactinium 234 1.14 minutes
Uranium 234 233,000 years
Thorium 230 83,000 yers
Radium 226 1,590 years
Radon 222 3 days
polonium 218 3 1/2 minutes
lead 214 26 minutes
bismuth 214 19 minutes
polonium 214 1.5 x 10-4 seconds

And so on until lead 206 is all that remains.

Uranium 235 has a different decay chain that you can view here:
http://www.ieer.org/fctsheet/uranium.html
No evolution....
by Earl Benser September 3, 2005 6:14 AM PDT
... the Big Bang began with a singularity of energy. As the
sigularity expanded and cooled, the energy condensed into a
soup of quarks, gluons, and related particles. Further cooling
had these particles condensing into protons (with an equal
number of electrons) and neutrons. From these, the further
cooling provided condensation into hydrogen, deuterium,
tritium, and helium. Later, gravity began to separate the particle
soup into the basic galactic structure. Stars formed, burned
hydrogen into helium, ran out of fuel and went nova, and in that
process, formed up all the other elements we know and blew
them into space. Later, the debris from these novas condensed
and formed our solar system.

So no evolution, just routine nuclear physics. Simple process,
simple story.
Deuterium
by September 2, 2005 12:02 PM PDT
Deuterium evolved from the big bang. From which substance did
hydrogen evolve?
Reply to this comment
Hydrogen
by aabcdefghij987654321 September 2, 2005 1:04 PM PDT
Deuterium is an Isotope of Hydrogen and both were formed at the same time (ie: the Big Bang). The difference is that the nucleus of a hydrogen atom is formed by a single proton while the nucleus Deuterium is formed by a proton and a neutron.

What the scientists are actually trying to measure is the overall ratio of hydrogen vs deuterium that was formed since that provides data on how many neutrons were formed and captured into atoms during that event.

Next on their list may be trying to catch the wavelength of Tritium which is even rarer vs Deuterium than Deuterium is vs Hydrogen (Tritium has two neutrons and is the only other stable hydrogen isotope).

It should also be noted that we only have separate names for the isotopes of hydrogen, all the other isotopes of elements are named by the element and the number of neutrons. Probably the most well known would be Uranium-238 (non-radioactive) vs Uranium-235 (radioactive -- there are in fact 16 different isotopes of Uranium), you may also be aware of Carbon-12 vs Carbon-14 which is used in dating organic materials.
Deutrium is an isotope of Hydrogen
by msims September 2, 2005 2:38 PM PDT
Deutrium as you may know is an isotope of hydrogen and their are two decay chains of Uranium, Uranium-238 non-radioactive and Uranium-235 radioactive.

Uranium 238 decays into the following chain in the half-life sequence:
Nuclide Half Life
Uranium 238 4.5 billion years
Thorium 234 24.5 days
Protactinium 234 1.14 minutes
Uranium 234 233,000 years
Thorium 230 83,000 yers
Radium 226 1,590 years
Radon 222 3 days
polonium 218 3 1/2 minutes
lead 214 26 minutes
bismuth 214 19 minutes
polonium 214 1.5 x 10-4 seconds

And so on until lead 206 is all that remains.

Uranium 235 has a different decay chain that you can view here:
http://www.ieer.org/fctsheet/uranium.html
No evolution....
by Earl Benser September 3, 2005 6:14 AM PDT
... the Big Bang began with a singularity of energy. As the
sigularity expanded and cooled, the energy condensed into a
soup of quarks, gluons, and related particles. Further cooling
had these particles condensing into protons (with an equal
number of electrons) and neutrons. From these, the further
cooling provided condensation into hydrogen, deuterium,
tritium, and helium. Later, gravity began to separate the particle
soup into the basic galactic structure. Stars formed, burned
hydrogen into helium, ran out of fuel and went nova, and in that
process, formed up all the other elements we know and blew
them into space. Later, the debris from these novas condensed
and formed our solar system.

So no evolution, just routine nuclear physics. Simple process,
simple story.
Deuterium
by September 2, 2005 12:02 PM PDT
Deuterium evolved from the big bang. From which substance did
hydrogen evolve?
Reply to this comment
Hydrogen
by aabcdefghij987654321 September 2, 2005 1:04 PM PDT
Deuterium is an Isotope of Hydrogen and both were formed at the same time (ie: the Big Bang). The difference is that the nucleus of a hydrogen atom is formed by a single proton while the nucleus Deuterium is formed by a proton and a neutron.

What the scientists are actually trying to measure is the overall ratio of hydrogen vs deuterium that was formed since that provides data on how many neutrons were formed and captured into atoms during that event.

Next on their list may be trying to catch the wavelength of Tritium which is even rarer vs Deuterium than Deuterium is vs Hydrogen (Tritium has two neutrons and is the only other stable hydrogen isotope).

It should also be noted that we only have separate names for the isotopes of hydrogen, all the other isotopes of elements are named by the element and the number of neutrons. Probably the most well known would be Uranium-238 (non-radioactive) vs Uranium-235 (radioactive -- there are in fact 16 different isotopes of Uranium), you may also be aware of Carbon-12 vs Carbon-14 which is used in dating organic materials.
Deutrium is an isotope of Hydrogen
by msims September 2, 2005 2:38 PM PDT
Deutrium as you may know is an isotope of hydrogen and their are two decay chains of Uranium, Uranium-238 non-radioactive and Uranium-235 radioactive.

Uranium 238 decays into the following chain in the half-life sequence:
Nuclide Half Life
Uranium 238 4.5 billion years
Thorium 234 24.5 days
Protactinium 234 1.14 minutes
Uranium 234 233,000 years
Thorium 230 83,000 yers
Radium 226 1,590 years
Radon 222 3 days
polonium 218 3 1/2 minutes
lead 214 26 minutes
bismuth 214 19 minutes
polonium 214 1.5 x 10-4 seconds

And so on until lead 206 is all that remains.

Uranium 235 has a different decay chain that you can view here:
http://www.ieer.org/fctsheet/uranium.html
No evolution....
by Earl Benser September 3, 2005 6:14 AM PDT
... the Big Bang began with a singularity of energy. As the
sigularity expanded and cooled, the energy condensed into a
soup of quarks, gluons, and related particles. Further cooling
had these particles condensing into protons (with an equal
number of electrons) and neutrons. From these, the further
cooling provided condensation into hydrogen, deuterium,
tritium, and helium. Later, gravity began to separate the particle
soup into the basic galactic structure. Stars formed, burned
hydrogen into helium, ran out of fuel and went nova, and in that
process, formed up all the other elements we know and blew
them into space. Later, the debris from these novas condensed
and formed our solar system.

So no evolution, just routine nuclear physics. Simple process,
simple story.
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