Comments on: Intel makes performance claims, AMD rebuffs them

Intel's prediction of a 20-percent lead in chip performance over AMD isn't sitting well with the smaller chipmaker.

[charleslanger]

Intel's desperate

Amd's next releases are going to smoke them further: between quad-core, higher ddr, +5000 speed......

And they'd better pray Cell/Niagare/et al-type processors never make it to desktops, or they're history......

[ajbright]

XBox 360

If Microsoft decide to release a version of Vista for their new XBox, then in theory it could be compatible with a PC powered by a Cell processor.

Obviously there would be plenty of things that would need to happen to make this a reality - in terms of both hardware and software, but it would make sense for Microsoft to move in that direction.

A desktop powered by Cell processors would blow away any of the current technologies, as well as those about to be released in the fall.

This sort of development could be the sort of catalyst we haven't seen in the industry since the first home computers appeared on the market back in the 80s.

Most of the revolutionary systems designed back then were doomed due to their owning companies lack of vision, as well as Microsoft and Intel's marketing strategy, which it must be said was truly brilliant - how else could you explain how a computer with a cpm based, single tasking OS being chosen ahead of multitasking, multithread OS powered computers with multiprocessor chipsets, stereo sound (unhead of) and 12-bit graphics (also unheard of)?

[charleslanger]

Intel's desperate

Amd's next releases are going to smoke them further: between quad-core, higher ddr, +5000 speed......

And they'd better pray Cell/Niagare/et al-type processors never make it to desktops, or they're history......

[ajbright]

XBox 360

If Microsoft decide to release a version of Vista for their new XBox, then in theory it could be compatible with a PC powered by a Cell processor.

Obviously there would be plenty of things that would need to happen to make this a reality - in terms of both hardware and software, but it would make sense for Microsoft to move in that direction.

A desktop powered by Cell processors would blow away any of the current technologies, as well as those about to be released in the fall.

This sort of development could be the sort of catalyst we haven't seen in the industry since the first home computers appeared on the market back in the 80s.

Most of the revolutionary systems designed back then were doomed due to their owning companies lack of vision, as well as Microsoft and Intel's marketing strategy, which it must be said was truly brilliant - how else could you explain how a computer with a cpm based, single tasking OS being chosen ahead of multitasking, multithread OS powered computers with multiprocessor chipsets, stereo sound (unhead of) and 12-bit graphics (also unheard of)?

[chuchucuhi]

ya know

there's nothin' like a pissin' match to warm the air.

[chuchucuhi]

ya know

there's nothin' like a pissin' match to warm the air.

[Jonathan]

Fanboys really are pathetic

We'll ignore the fact that AMD isn't anywhere NEAR coming out with
a quad core and that Intel will prob be close to rolling out their
second gen of dual core mobiles when AMD is just starting to roll
out their first gen. Fanboys on both sides are pathetic. Esp the AM
fanboys who are now running scared that maybe. Just maybe Intel
finally has something that can best AMD?s desktop and mobile
wares. FUD rules in the realm of AMD vs. Intel.

[Jonathan]

Fanboys really are pathetic

We'll ignore the fact that AMD isn't anywhere NEAR coming out with
a quad core and that Intel will prob be close to rolling out their
second gen of dual core mobiles when AMD is just starting to roll
out their first gen. Fanboys on both sides are pathetic. Esp the AM
fanboys who are now running scared that maybe. Just maybe Intel
finally has something that can best AMD?s desktop and mobile
wares. FUD rules in the realm of AMD vs. Intel.

[bar86]

Israeli technolofy saves Intel.

At the 92 minute, Intel drops failing NetBurst technology designed by greedy marketing managers
and turning to the Banias concept pushed by Mooly,
and developed in Haifa, Israel. Slowly but surely,
US loosing it's technoly lead. Instead of in investing in fuel hungry SUV's you should return
to investing in education.

[dmm]

cart before the horse

No one in US (especially students) is seriously going to invest money, time, and effort into education while US industry and government is cutting back on research funding (in real $) and off-shoring much of what is left.

Totally agree with the SUV bash, though.

[drfrost]

Bleah

Real engineers design a core around what they know is going to be the up and coming main issue: power, and it performs better than the one designed by the "greedy marketing managers" and you conclude we are losing our edge?

Far too many important engineering decisions are made by people not qualified to do so in these large companies. That's the real problem here (or at least one of them).

[wanorris]

AMD -- designed in the USA

The AMD chips that are eating Intel's lunch are designed in the U.S. IBM's Power chips and hot new Core chip that's powering the PS3 are designed in the US.

I think it's great that Intel's next-generation cores are coming from Israel. But that doesn't mean that Americans suddenly can't design microprocessors -- just that Americans aren't the only ones who can design microprocessors. Which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

[bar86]

Israeli technolofy saves Intel.

At the 92 minute, Intel drops failing NetBurst technology designed by greedy marketing managers
and turning to the Banias concept pushed by Mooly,
and developed in Haifa, Israel. Slowly but surely,
US loosing it's technoly lead. Instead of in investing in fuel hungry SUV's you should return
to investing in education.

[dmm]

cart before the horse

No one in US (especially students) is seriously going to invest money, time, and effort into education while US industry and government is cutting back on research funding (in real $) and off-shoring much of what is left.

Totally agree with the SUV bash, though.

[drfrost]

Bleah

Real engineers design a core around what they know is going to be the up and coming main issue: power, and it performs better than the one designed by the "greedy marketing managers" and you conclude we are losing our edge?

Far too many important engineering decisions are made by people not qualified to do so in these large companies. That's the real problem here (or at least one of them).

[wanorris]

AMD -- designed in the USA

The AMD chips that are eating Intel's lunch are designed in the U.S. IBM's Power chips and hot new Core chip that's powering the PS3 are designed in the US.

I think it's great that Intel's next-generation cores are coming from Israel. But that doesn't mean that Americans suddenly can't design microprocessors -- just that Americans aren't the only ones who can design microprocessors. Which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

Pathetic?

Pathetic is believing what these companies press departments are spouting in an effort to save face.
Processor performance isn't nearly as important as it was 5 years ago, and these companies don't want to fall out public's eye. Bleeding edge components only matter ro a select few - the rest of us don't care, we only want cheap reliable PC's.

[Seaspray0]

embrace change

When they first are released, they are expensive, aren't they? But without the research these companies do, that price would never go down. You would never get your cheap PC without that.

Pathetic?

Pathetic is believing what these companies press departments are spouting in an effort to save face.
Processor performance isn't nearly as important as it was 5 years ago, and these companies don't want to fall out public's eye. Bleeding edge components only matter ro a select few - the rest of us don't care, we only want cheap reliable PC's.

[Seaspray0]

embrace change

When they first are released, they are expensive, aren't they? But without the research these companies do, that price would never go down. You would never get your cheap PC without that.