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Comments on: New life for Moore's Law

Emerging technologies could extend the life of the famous principle whose demise has been predicted repeatedly.

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I Find It Odd...
by ydreaminc April 19, 2005 7:49 AM PDT
I find it odd with the obsession the tech industry in whole has with the idea behind faster chips equate to the end all direct correlation between a customer and his decision to upgrade his pc, what about really great software that can validate such a purchase. Obviously performance is a factor on an industry side, this will always play a roll, but for the near term I can only hope that Intel, AMD, Microsoft and the IT industry in general will pull back from the bottom line for one second (lol) and realize a large % of the population that could easily be swayed to upgrading on apps in general. I am talking about those who when it comes to buying a new pc only have questions like "gig-a-what?" and "meg-a-huh?", and could really care less the speed of the processor that's blazing their high def solitare game cards accross their screen. As a consumer am I asking too much? Why is my internet shopping experience on a $3k PC not as easy and simplistic to use as my $150 Xbox interface? I mean when was the last time an average non-tweaker consumer asked "Wow that Tivo would be great in my living room but how fast is it's processor?" (.001%) I can only hope by quad-core Pentium 10's I will be pleasantly surprised by an application that will take advantage of it's potential. Till then I've sold my Xbox and will be in line for Xbox 360, I will not be selling my Tivo.
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True, but...
by Dilcue April 19, 2005 11:45 AM PDT
You make a valid point that software can play a role in the future of computing and has a great bearing on the decisions of a consumer. For example, watch the tech programs on any shopping television channel (ShopNBC comes to mind), when promoting a PC, a large package of software will usually be included. The tech savy might be swayed by the specs of the computer, while typically the more basic computer user will find the productivity software as the advantagious feature. My point is, I agree with you, but the tech industry has been ontop of marketing software upgrades for sometime. Microsoft, for example, is still trying to determine how they are going to market their new OS, Longhorn, when the typical user is still satisfied with Windows XP. When Longhorn is finally released, most people won't be rushing out saying "I have to get Longhorn to make my computer better, faster, more efficient, etc..." Microsoft in the past has pushed for new software upgrades that were considered unnecessary, such as the release of Windows ME. Similarly with their Office suite. Why must a new version of Office be released every year or two years when Office 97 (which I have the floppy disk version of on 43 floppies) still gets the job done? In general, the software and hardware industries work in tandum, playing off each other. Software takes advantage of hardware advancements, and hardware takes advantage of breakthroughs in software/firmware. Maybe it's just occuring too fast for the typical user to find it vital...
I Find It Odd...
by ydreaminc April 19, 2005 7:49 AM PDT
I find it odd with the obsession the tech industry in whole has with the idea behind faster chips equate to the end all direct correlation between a customer and his decision to upgrade his pc, what about really great software that can validate such a purchase. Obviously performance is a factor on an industry side, this will always play a roll, but for the near term I can only hope that Intel, AMD, Microsoft and the IT industry in general will pull back from the bottom line for one second (lol) and realize a large % of the population that could easily be swayed to upgrading on apps in general. I am talking about those who when it comes to buying a new pc only have questions like "gig-a-what?" and "meg-a-huh?", and could really care less the speed of the processor that's blazing their high def solitare game cards accross their screen. As a consumer am I asking too much? Why is my internet shopping experience on a $3k PC not as easy and simplistic to use as my $150 Xbox interface? I mean when was the last time an average non-tweaker consumer asked "Wow that Tivo would be great in my living room but how fast is it's processor?" (.001%) I can only hope by quad-core Pentium 10's I will be pleasantly surprised by an application that will take advantage of it's potential. Till then I've sold my Xbox and will be in line for Xbox 360, I will not be selling my Tivo.
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True, but...
by Dilcue April 19, 2005 11:45 AM PDT
You make a valid point that software can play a role in the future of computing and has a great bearing on the decisions of a consumer. For example, watch the tech programs on any shopping television channel (ShopNBC comes to mind), when promoting a PC, a large package of software will usually be included. The tech savy might be swayed by the specs of the computer, while typically the more basic computer user will find the productivity software as the advantagious feature. My point is, I agree with you, but the tech industry has been ontop of marketing software upgrades for sometime. Microsoft, for example, is still trying to determine how they are going to market their new OS, Longhorn, when the typical user is still satisfied with Windows XP. When Longhorn is finally released, most people won't be rushing out saying "I have to get Longhorn to make my computer better, faster, more efficient, etc..." Microsoft in the past has pushed for new software upgrades that were considered unnecessary, such as the release of Windows ME. Similarly with their Office suite. Why must a new version of Office be released every year or two years when Office 97 (which I have the floppy disk version of on 43 floppies) still gets the job done? In general, the software and hardware industries work in tandum, playing off each other. Software takes advantage of hardware advancements, and hardware takes advantage of breakthroughs in software/firmware. Maybe it's just occuring too fast for the typical user to find it vital...
two dimensional imbeciles
by TogetherinParis April 19, 2005 10:19 AM PDT
Shaired capacitance switching will allow vastly greater densities
than anything envisioned today. On and Off will be replaced by
little piles of charge on multiple decision sites with secondary,
tertiary, quartinary, etc. etc. etc. affects, and it WILL NOT be all
in the same plane. You guys are a bunch of lollygagging
neanderthals.
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Easily said
by April 20, 2005 11:54 AM PDT
Hmmm, and I'm sure you know how to go about designing and implementing this 3D architecture that you make sound easy.
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Yes, but the problem with your statement is...
by rhyssleary April 22, 2005 11:36 AM PDT
Star Trek ain't real.
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two dimensional imbeciles
by TogetherinParis April 19, 2005 10:19 AM PDT
Shaired capacitance switching will allow vastly greater densities
than anything envisioned today. On and Off will be replaced by
little piles of charge on multiple decision sites with secondary,
tertiary, quartinary, etc. etc. etc. affects, and it WILL NOT be all
in the same plane. You guys are a bunch of lollygagging
neanderthals.
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Easily said
by April 20, 2005 11:54 AM PDT
Hmmm, and I'm sure you know how to go about designing and implementing this 3D architecture that you make sound easy.
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Yes, but the problem with your statement is...
by rhyssleary April 22, 2005 11:36 AM PDT
Star Trek ain't real.
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3.8 Nanometer Optical Atomic Switches
by grey_eminence April 19, 2005 1:07 PM PDT
Using quantum physics can do molecular or atomic
switching according to Colossal Storage Corp.

Ferroelectrics can be used for optical transistors, wiring, caps, motors, etc.

http://www.colossalstorage.net/colossal12.htm
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3.8 Nanometer Optical Atomic Switches
by grey_eminence April 19, 2005 1:07 PM PDT
Using quantum physics can do molecular or atomic
switching according to Colossal Storage Corp.

Ferroelectrics can be used for optical transistors, wiring, caps, motors, etc.

http://www.colossalstorage.net/colossal12.htm
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WOW! It is true, you other two are F****G idiots and hvenet a clue!
by April 23, 2005 11:05 PM PDT
There has been considerable conversation in our industry about the "wall" for Moores law and it looks good that there is some hope of the continuation.
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WOW! It is true, you other two are F****G idiots and hvenet a clue!
by April 23, 2005 11:05 PM PDT
There has been considerable conversation in our industry about the "wall" for Moores law and it looks good that there is some hope of the continuation.
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faster, better, cheaper; but, ...
by Lolo Gecko December 29, 2005 11:02 AM PST
epicycles upon epicycles none the less.
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faster, better, cheaper; but, ...
by Lolo Gecko December 29, 2005 11:02 AM PST
epicycles upon epicycles none the less.
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