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Comments on: Has the notebook-to-handheld conversion begun?

Laptops are hot, but some power users are moving to a desktop-BlackBerry combo.

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Smartphones not smart enough
by Galley August 3, 2005 7:04 AM PDT
Smartphones simply aren't good enough yet. I would like to see a larger screen with VGA support, Bluetooth 2.0 and built-in WiFi. A 4GB micro-drive is the bare minimum for storage space.
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Close, but not yet
by August 3, 2005 7:20 AM PDT
I love my Treo - but I still use it's "smart phone" functionality as
little as possible. In fact, what I like most about it is the ability to
use it as a bluetooth modem for my laptop. Connecting my laptop
through the phone I still get stuff done significantly faster than on
the Treo - even if it's just e-mail and word processing.
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Why not 40GB
by August 3, 2005 9:08 AM PDT
Greg, can you explain to me why they can't have storage space that
is similiar to that of an iPod, which can be up to 60GB?
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Smartphones not smart enough
by Galley August 3, 2005 7:04 AM PDT
Smartphones simply aren't good enough yet. I would like to see a larger screen with VGA support, Bluetooth 2.0 and built-in WiFi. A 4GB micro-drive is the bare minimum for storage space.
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Close, but not yet
by August 3, 2005 7:20 AM PDT
I love my Treo - but I still use it's "smart phone" functionality as
little as possible. In fact, what I like most about it is the ability to
use it as a bluetooth modem for my laptop. Connecting my laptop
through the phone I still get stuff done significantly faster than on
the Treo - even if it's just e-mail and word processing.
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Why not 40GB
by August 3, 2005 9:08 AM PDT
Greg, can you explain to me why they can't have storage space that
is similiar to that of an iPod, which can be up to 60GB?
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blackberry is great for some things...
by hugh dunnit August 3, 2005 7:33 AM PDT
i use mine all the time, its great when i'm on the road between customers. I rather they email me then call so I can handle things on my own time. but i don't ever see these handhelds being a replacement for a laptop. it's just a great added gadget for people on the move. my widescreen super portable will always be superior! (especially with more and more wifi around)
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blackberry is great for some things...
by hugh dunnit August 3, 2005 7:33 AM PDT
i use mine all the time, its great when i'm on the road between customers. I rather they email me then call so I can handle things on my own time. but i don't ever see these handhelds being a replacement for a laptop. it's just a great added gadget for people on the move. my widescreen super portable will always be superior! (especially with more and more wifi around)
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BlackBerries aren't smart enough but MS devices definitelly do it for me.
by August 3, 2005 7:50 AM PDT
The BlackBerry is too limited in interface, functionality and reliability (because of the addtional layer of infrastructure managed by RIM) to replace a laptop, but an MS Smartphone such as the HP 6315 or the iMate is indeed a great alternative and I don't carry my laptop around any longer.
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BlackBerries aren't smart enough but MS devices definitelly do it for me.
by August 3, 2005 7:50 AM PDT
The BlackBerry is too limited in interface, functionality and reliability (because of the addtional layer of infrastructure managed by RIM) to replace a laptop, but an MS Smartphone such as the HP 6315 or the iMate is indeed a great alternative and I don't carry my laptop around any longer.
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Blackberry's are not all that
by August 3, 2005 7:53 AM PDT
I've had a Bberry for 2 or 3 years from my company. It's good at
email. That's about it. It's a lousy phone, the browser is terrible and
the interface has some major issues. is it useful? Hell yes. Would i
give up my laptop? Not a chance. (I've had bberry's from the
original black one to the blue colour screen one.) face it - people
like having email in their pocket and RIM is good at that. But the
other functions are PAINFUL. I prefer my Motorola phone and
laptop for anything more than a quick "yes, i agree" email. But
that's just me i guess.
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Blackberry's are not all that
by August 3, 2005 7:53 AM PDT
I've had a Bberry for 2 or 3 years from my company. It's good at
email. That's about it. It's a lousy phone, the browser is terrible and
the interface has some major issues. is it useful? Hell yes. Would i
give up my laptop? Not a chance. (I've had bberry's from the
original black one to the blue colour screen one.) face it - people
like having email in their pocket and RIM is good at that. But the
other functions are PAINFUL. I prefer my Motorola phone and
laptop for anything more than a quick "yes, i agree" email. But
that's just me i guess.
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That's funny...
by scott.gardner August 3, 2005 9:26 AM PDT
...my observation is that PDAs are giving way to increased
notebook adoption. I, for one, went from desktop to Treo to
notebook (PowerBook G4), for the following reasons:
1. PDA software not all that it's marketed to be, and there's less
of it available.
2. Who wants to format a contract of spreadsheet on a 3"
screen?
3. Notebooks can readily tap into several wireless Internet/
network protocols (e.g., WiFi/WiMax and Bluetooth, and even
use a mobile phone as a modem). And with a handy keychain
WiFi finder, I can quickly check for an available connection
anywhere.
4. PDA phones are too bulky as far as phones go. Think
Zoolander!
5. Notebooks are sleak and slim enough to "take anywhere."
6. VoIP technology let's me use my notebook as my "phone,"
with relatively seamless integration with my CRM systems.
7. Notebooks possess far greater processing power and offer
magnificently better displays (of course).
8. Total cost of ownership for a notebook can be *less* than a
PDA, because all the implementation/integration technologies to
connect PDAs to computing environments are quite expensive.
I'm sure there are other reasons, oh, like the fact that every new
iteration of a chosen PDA phone line requires all new accessories
(e.g., Treo).
Just my opinion!
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That's funny...
by scott.gardner August 3, 2005 9:26 AM PDT
...my observation is that PDAs are giving way to increased
notebook adoption. I, for one, went from desktop to Treo to
notebook (PowerBook G4), for the following reasons:
1. PDA software not all that it's marketed to be, and there's less
of it available.
2. Who wants to format a contract of spreadsheet on a 3"
screen?
3. Notebooks can readily tap into several wireless Internet/
network protocols (e.g., WiFi/WiMax and Bluetooth, and even
use a mobile phone as a modem). And with a handy keychain
WiFi finder, I can quickly check for an available connection
anywhere.
4. PDA phones are too bulky as far as phones go. Think
Zoolander!
5. Notebooks are sleak and slim enough to "take anywhere."
6. VoIP technology let's me use my notebook as my "phone,"
with relatively seamless integration with my CRM systems.
7. Notebooks possess far greater processing power and offer
magnificently better displays (of course).
8. Total cost of ownership for a notebook can be *less* than a
PDA, because all the implementation/integration technologies to
connect PDAs to computing environments are quite expensive.
I'm sure there are other reasons, oh, like the fact that every new
iteration of a chosen PDA phone line requires all new accessories
(e.g., Treo).
Just my opinion!
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Getting closer
by HUMMERSrock August 3, 2005 10:18 AM PDT
Got a Samsung i730 three weeks ago. It works well for phone calls, e-mail, Internet, MP3 play back, video, (3 complete movie on one SD card) and IM. Too bad there is no cross compiler for Motorola HC12, then I could ditch the laptop!
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Getting closer
by HUMMERSrock August 3, 2005 10:18 AM PDT
Got a Samsung i730 three weeks ago. It works well for phone calls, e-mail, Internet, MP3 play back, video, (3 complete movie on one SD card) and IM. Too bad there is no cross compiler for Motorola HC12, then I could ditch the laptop!
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Affordable Small Tablet PC
by Montevale August 3, 2005 4:34 PM PDT
Laptops are great, but they are still to big.
Pocket pcs are great, but they don't ran my application, and if I have to edit my MS Word files it is a pain to fit it on the small screen.
Given enough momentum maybe Tablet PCs are going to replace the notebooks. They just have to be made small enough and capable of running more then one applicaion at a time.
I'm not talking about a huge notebook like tablet pc with all bells and whistler attached to it. Sure that beast will ran all my aps and then some, but I already have a notebook. Doodling on the screen with a pen is not going to be enough incentive for me to buy another computer.
Tablet PC like LS800 from motion computing are needed to really move the industry. Software like GoBinder, One Note and Mind Manager need to be be integreated deeper with the OS to generate real interest when it comes to laptop replacement.
I have been using a Tablet PC fore a while now and there is no way I would voluntarily switch back to a notebook. My HP TC1100 is small enough to carry in a binder and fast enough to have any of my docs open in a flash. With the SP2 for tablet PCs released it is now better then ever. Most of the desktops will be eventually replaced by notebooks which in turn will become smaller lighter and be able to comfortably accommodate text input without keyboards.
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Affordable Small Tablet PC
by Montevale August 3, 2005 4:34 PM PDT
Laptops are great, but they are still to big.
Pocket pcs are great, but they don't ran my application, and if I have to edit my MS Word files it is a pain to fit it on the small screen.
Given enough momentum maybe Tablet PCs are going to replace the notebooks. They just have to be made small enough and capable of running more then one applicaion at a time.
I'm not talking about a huge notebook like tablet pc with all bells and whistler attached to it. Sure that beast will ran all my aps and then some, but I already have a notebook. Doodling on the screen with a pen is not going to be enough incentive for me to buy another computer.
Tablet PC like LS800 from motion computing are needed to really move the industry. Software like GoBinder, One Note and Mind Manager need to be be integreated deeper with the OS to generate real interest when it comes to laptop replacement.
I have been using a Tablet PC fore a while now and there is no way I would voluntarily switch back to a notebook. My HP TC1100 is small enough to carry in a binder and fast enough to have any of my docs open in a flash. With the SP2 for tablet PCs released it is now better then ever. Most of the desktops will be eventually replaced by notebooks which in turn will become smaller lighter and be able to comfortably accommodate text input without keyboards.
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Users define the need...
by Mendz August 3, 2005 10:18 PM PDT
Different organizations have different offline requirements. In this case, the company saw that the activities of the users are good enough with a handheld. I think it is an exageration that laptops can be replaced by handhelds in general. For high-end mobile users, true mini-PCs (ultra-portable PCs) like OQO and FlipStart are worth checking out.
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Users define the need...
by Mendz August 3, 2005 10:18 PM PDT
Different organizations have different offline requirements. In this case, the company saw that the activities of the users are good enough with a handheld. I think it is an exageration that laptops can be replaced by handhelds in general. For high-end mobile users, true mini-PCs (ultra-portable PCs) like OQO and FlipStart are worth checking out.
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Data goggles+VGA out == revolution
by dantso August 7, 2005 5:00 PM PDT
The capabilities of handhelds/smartphones and laptop do indeed overlap to the extent that one can contemplate just using a smartphone for 95% of one's needs. The innovations that would really move this forward are: 1) Good, hi-res, not bulky data glasses, 2) VGA/XGA video output on handhelds/smartphones.

Obviously, one of the big issues is display size (tiny) of the handhelds/smartphones. It woulnd't take much to fix that. Number 2 is easy, just provide a way to tap the screen video output, like any modern laptop. Number 1, a decent set of data glasses/goggles, is more difficult, but still possible. VGA is basically here, XGA is close. Both are still a bit pricey for decent form factor and resolution. Yes, we'll be walking around like the Borg, but we'll be carrying a lot less than 7lb (or even 3lb) laptops.
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Data goggles+VGA out == revolution
by dantso August 7, 2005 5:00 PM PDT
The capabilities of handhelds/smartphones and laptop do indeed overlap to the extent that one can contemplate just using a smartphone for 95% of one's needs. The innovations that would really move this forward are: 1) Good, hi-res, not bulky data glasses, 2) VGA/XGA video output on handhelds/smartphones.

Obviously, one of the big issues is display size (tiny) of the handhelds/smartphones. It woulnd't take much to fix that. Number 2 is easy, just provide a way to tap the screen video output, like any modern laptop. Number 1, a decent set of data glasses/goggles, is more difficult, but still possible. VGA is basically here, XGA is close. Both are still a bit pricey for decent form factor and resolution. Yes, we'll be walking around like the Borg, but we'll be carrying a lot less than 7lb (or even 3lb) laptops.
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