Comments on: Dell exec: We're not Wintel's lapdog

Kevin Kettler says Dell plays a starring role in guiding tech, even if that causes friction with allies.

[erindorn]

If Dell listens to its customers so much, where's the Athlon line?

I don't know when CNet decided to post Dell sales pitches, but this one is pretty blatant. Where is the hard questioning? If Dell is so busy listening to its customers, (as expressed with the BluRay comments), then why haven't they put out even one system with an AMD processor? Why use Intel for 64 bit, when AMD came up with it first, and does it better? Why use Intel for dual core, when AMD's chips are more powerful? Sounds like lapdog barking to me.

[erindorn]

The sound of lapdog barking

If Dell is so busy listening to its customers, (as expressed with the BluRay comments), then why haven't they put out even one system with an AMD processor? Why use Intel for 64 bit, when AMD came up with it first, and does it better? Why use Intel for dual core, when AMD's chips are more powerful? Sounds like lapdog barking to me.

[haul328]

Where is Dell's Opteron Line ?

IF Dell isn't on the Intel Treadmill, Why do they refuse to use AMD processors ? Dell is a lot of talk and hype. I encourage people not to get caught up in how fast the processor is clocked. At the Same frequenct AMD leaves Intel in the dust. Sort of like a fat girl driving a Ford Pinto compared to a Dodge Viper. Oh Well. LOL.

[sharikou]

DELL is a screw driver company period

90% of their revenue is generated from the utilization of screw drivers. They sell Lexmark Printers, EMC Storage, Intel PCes, taiwanese PDAs and MP3 players...

They are inventing s**t.

http://sharikou.blogspot.com/

[Joe A Flores]

DELL INSPIRION 5150

May I say more?

How many of you remember the 5150? I remember I gave my uncle advise on new CPU's. He was more OSX knowlewdgeble than windows he was then using my dual usb ibook, to make a long story short withing one year he had to get it fixed 4 different times one week after the one year warranty the motherboard burned out of course Dell would not replace it although it was a wide known problem He spend 500.00 for parts and labor PLUS the 1200 he spend on the 5150 that is a macbook pro. Lets just say he learned his lesson. FYI he now just bought a macbook pro

[zxocuteboy]

Where are my AMD Chips

I got 10 laptops for my company last year, and a brand new one for my this year, i wanted to buy Dell but ended up getting HP because Dell does not have AMD Athlon64 Duo processors... HP does, they got all my orders... You lost on $21,000.00 Dell... Nice way of duing bussness...

[neolyn]

Umm...no.

Dell really has some guts to say that they've got a foothold on the
computer standards area of anything. What has Dell done that
hasn't already been done by IBM or Apple? Apple is the true
pioneer in the computer industry and Dell is only big because they
can sell plastic computers at low prices and most of the world uses
Windows. Their machines are only as good as the OS they come
with - and they'll never run OS X.

[wtortorici]

I thought the extensions for x86 64 bit was AMD's

Didn't AMD build the first X86 64 bit cpu? If so, how does Dell, who does not build AMD boxes, determine what the extension would be?
;) I created the X86 64 bit extension. ;)

[wtortorici]

Oh, who are the customers that are demanding Blu-ray?

Nobody has a Blu-ray drive ready for production, not even Sony let alone a Blu-ray dvd. So how can anyone determine it's better than HD-DV? Not unless you believe all the the hype from Sony the rootkit developer.

[wanderson]

Story: Dell not Wintel Lapdog

Dell's response to the assertion of being a "lapdog" for Wintel is a non-answer, since the
examples given do not represent a "complete"
break with Wintel ranks to "fully" support GNU/Linux (even on servers), IBM technologis including DB2 or any other technology that competes "fiercely" with Wintel to the degree that bespeaks "independance".

Uninformed readers will not be able to see this
reality in their comments.

[PCCRomeo]

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah!

Dell sounds like the adults in the Charlie Brown cartoons...They make plenty of noise but no one listens. Where are the AMD chips Dell? I don't really call offering a desktop with no OS taking the lead in innovation or anything...

Why do people buy Dell's anyway? They're no better than Compaq and look where they are now...

[Llib Setag]

Ding, Dong, Dell's Dead.

Take off your rose colored glasses & put down the Dell Koolaid, Dell's the Yugo of the PC Wintel Industry & they should be very, very worried.

First of all, I would NOT p##s off Lord Darth Gates & his Microsith Empire, Dell.

Second, Intel has many customers, including Apple now, so they can take you or leave you.

Open Source Unix/Linux/Lindows/Red Hat/Yellow Dog/Mac OSX Unix on MacINTELS do not need you Dell.

With a press statement like this one, you may have just signed your death warrant.

RIP DELL

[Earl Benser]

Dell is an assembly house.....

... Dell puts together computers from whatever set of parts it
can come up with. Odds are that a sampling of Dell assemblies
for any given Dell model will reveal little parts control - you are
like to find anything as long as gross specs are met. Some of
that is unavoidable, suppliers change on you routinely. But, Dell
doesn't really care - it just slaps together whatever seems to
work.

And that makes them lapdog to no one. They don't care who
their suppliers are, as long as there is enough of them, and the
prices are low enough.

And as long as the public thinks Dell and PC are synonymous,
Dell will sell computers. And thanks to MS's arm twisting, Dell
has no choice but to include the price of a copy of Windows with
each computer, whether or not Windows is actually installed.
Now that is what stinks in the deal.

AMD and Dell

I doubt you will see AMD powered Dells anytime soon, intel
gives massive discounts to the big customers like Dell and now
Apple if either of them started selling AMD it is probably known
that it may make Intel not wanna give out the good deals, much
like when a couple of vendors were talking of not shipping
windows with their machines, MS did not like the idea.

as for inovation, yeah right, Intel has even said that the biggest
thing holding back the industry is "a few largest companies in
the business"
Intel wanted USB for keyboards, mice and most other peripherals
in 1997, wanted to kill the floppy drive around that time, more
recently to kill BIOS in favor of EFI, make wireless standard in all
PCs and a whole bunch of other stuff that still has not happened
due mostly in part because Dell and a couple others AND MS is a
big part of that problem as well when it comes to emerging
technologies, they don't seem to beable to write a decent driver
until the technology is old news and the industry is moving on to
the next standard.

[Bill Dautrive]

Dell

Who cares what an executive(businessmen are retards by default) at a company that mainly puts together off the shelf parts to "create" a subpar computer thinks?

Dell is a garbage PC and notebook maker.

[Shankland]

reporter adds: Kettler has some tech cred

Businessmen may or may not be retards by default, but before you criticize Kettler too hard, consider the technical parts of his biography.

He got B.S. in electrical engineering at Lehigh University and masters and Ph.D. degrees in electrical engineering at Carnegie Mellon University.

He presently is an adjunct professor of electrical engineering at the University of Texas. He's also on the engineering advisory councils at the UT College of Electrical and Computer Engineering and CMU's Carnegie Institute of Technology.

[Thinkforachange]

People really want cheap computers, not offer AMD from Dell

when it comes down to it... what Dell hears from their customers.. isnt that they want a particular technology... its getting basic technology at a unbeatable price. say all u want about wanting a AMD cpu in a computer, u wont buy it unless there is a great price on it, RIGHT?.. i'm pretty sure u will agree.

at this point, AMD doesnt have the ability to even produce enough of these Cpus anyway for Dell and certainly the price wont be cheap. So why would Dell accept AMD cpus at the risk or losing advertising budgeting from Intel and high volume discounts just to barely sell a few AMD cpus which account for only 20% of the market at full capacity.

their computer prices will shoot up 1%+ definitely and with how the market is, 1% is damn borderline profit or loss.

[fred dunn]

Then they chose the right company...

Because aside from the CPUs the components in their systems are "low bid" stuff that I wouldn't recommend.
But you are absolutely right 90% of the people are looking strictly at price. That is why Intel computers are a commodity now. They all use the same chipset/CPU/memory. So it doesn't matter who you buy it from. Dell just has a name in the market that used to stand for quality and support, "USED TO".