Comments on: FAQ: Will your Intel-based Mac run Windows?

Since both the Mac OS and Windows now run on Intel-based hardware, shouldn't it be easy to run them on the same computer?
Ten thoughts on the new Intel iMac

[Shauheen]

Yet another not so intelligent article

installing windows on an iMac would be like pissing in a porsche's tank! and you certainly don't need an astronaut to drive a cab!

The only fun would be for the hacker, who would give it a shot, yet there are far more interesting things to do, than runing windows on Intel!!.

[Shauheen]

Yet another not so intelligent article

installing windows on an iMac would be like pissing in a porsche's tank! and you certainly don't need an astronaut to drive a cab!

The only fun would be for the hacker, who would give it a shot, yet there are far more interesting things to do, than runing windows on Intel!!.

[pinky1968]

??????

Please, which serious Mac user would want to use Windows??
I can?t think of any reason why somebody would want to use Windows XP, except if you one of those people who don?t like to pay for Software and use illegal copies.

[pinky1968]

??????

Please, which serious Mac user would want to use Windows??
I can?t think of any reason why somebody would want to use Windows XP, except if you one of those people who don?t like to pay for Software and use illegal copies.

[_zeroday]

Yaboot

If the only issue with booting windows is the Open Firmware there are simple ways to get around that. Now, if apple is using some sort of "protection" DRM or whatever then obviously it has to be hacked. As for emulating windows through OS X hacking exsiting programs... IE wine, vmware, MOL, is going to have to happen. (*Note Mol was added to the list because it's basic idea would be very useful in this situation) Windows will appear on your x86 based laptops very soon. I don't know why but I do know that it will happen.

[_zeroday]

Yaboot

If the only issue with booting windows is the Open Firmware there are simple ways to get around that. Now, if apple is using some sort of "protection" DRM or whatever then obviously it has to be hacked. As for emulating windows through OS X hacking exsiting programs... IE wine, vmware, MOL, is going to have to happen. (*Note Mol was added to the list because it's basic idea would be very useful in this situation) Windows will appear on your x86 based laptops very soon. I don't know why but I do know that it will happen.

[fear_and_loathing]

Here's my concern

Anybody have any theories as to what MIGHT happen if you had
both OS's on a machine... doesn't matter which type... and in the
likely event that Windoze allowed a virus in... could it affect the
Mac side of the computer?

Just wonderin'

[mcugaedu]

Virus hazard

Unless you had the two OSes using physically separate disk drives, the first answer has to be, yes, a virus on either OS could damage the other one residing on disk.

[fear_and_loathing]

Here's my concern

Anybody have any theories as to what MIGHT happen if you had
both OS's on a machine... doesn't matter which type... and in the
likely event that Windoze allowed a virus in... could it affect the
Mac side of the computer?

Just wonderin'

[mcugaedu]

Virus hazard

Unless you had the two OSes using physically separate disk drives, the first answer has to be, yes, a virus on either OS could damage the other one residing on disk.

[brfff]

Where did I get my standalone versions then?

There are two types of disks: upgrade only and standalone. I've got
mixtures of both for Puma, Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger.

So, there are definitely standalone versions - perhaps try looking in
an Apple retailer ... ? Otherwise, how could one do a clean install?
Or upgrade from OS 9? Or install to an iPod or other external
drive?

[brfff]

Where did I get my standalone versions then?

There are two types of disks: upgrade only and standalone. I've got
mixtures of both for Puma, Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger.

So, there are definitely standalone versions - perhaps try looking in
an Apple retailer ... ? Otherwise, how could one do a clean install?
Or upgrade from OS 9? Or install to an iPod or other external
drive?

[Mendz]

If OS X can be deployed like Windows...

... then Steve Jobs can simply say that OS X runs best with Apple machines.

But that move might kill Apple's hardware business...

But that move might also make OS X a real threat to Windows' market dominance...

[Mendz]

If OS X can be deployed like Windows...

... then Steve Jobs can simply say that OS X runs best with Apple machines.

But that move might kill Apple's hardware business...

But that move might also make OS X a real threat to Windows' market dominance...

[letelido]

Exactly...

It's the EULA license that deciphers how it's legally used. While it
would appear and install as a full version, legally it's an upgrade as
per the license agreement.

[letelido]

Exactly...

It's the EULA license that deciphers how it's legally used. While it
would appear and install as a full version, legally it's an upgrade as
per the license agreement.

[Earl Benser]

OS X on a PC.....

When some one can actually do this, with a full Tiger install on a
conventional PC, please let us know.

Until then, all the self appointed experts are wasting their words
and our time. Their words are useless, but my time isn't.

[br77575]

Dittos nt

.

[Earl Benser]

OS X on a PC.....

When some one can actually do this, with a full Tiger install on a
conventional PC, please let us know.

Until then, all the self appointed experts are wasting their words
and our time. Their words are useless, but my time isn't.

[br77575]

Dittos nt

.

[dballing]

Legality

Is there anything in the Mac OS EULA that ties it to a specific machine? If not, you can happily retire "old" hardware (or install an alternate OS like Linux on it), and transfer its software license to the new machine (like a formerly-windows-infested Intel machine).

So bring that old iLamp, I mean iMac, up to 10.4.3, then transfer the software license from that machine to your Thinkpad, or whatever, and away you go, quite legally.

[Earl Benser]

Sure...

... but before you get all involved in the irrelevant legalities,. let's
see you do it first.

[dballing]

Legality

Is there anything in the Mac OS EULA that ties it to a specific machine? If not, you can happily retire "old" hardware (or install an alternate OS like Linux on it), and transfer its software license to the new machine (like a formerly-windows-infested Intel machine).

So bring that old iLamp, I mean iMac, up to 10.4.3, then transfer the software license from that machine to your Thinkpad, or whatever, and away you go, quite legally.

[Earl Benser]

Sure...

... but before you get all involved in the irrelevant legalities,. let's
see you do it first.

[danjp98]

OS X for PC's

Question..... if the new OS X can run on intel.... what would prevent it for people tossing windows on their pc's and installing OS X?

[Earl Benser]

Nothing....

But OS X running on an Intel Processor, as in thenew Mac, is a lot
different than OS X running on an Intel (or AMD) powered PC.

Anyhow, first you have to get OS X running on a PC. Lots of blow-
hards out there making noise, but no one who can do it. And OS X
is there waiting to be used.

[danjp98]

OS X for PC's

Question..... if the new OS X can run on intel.... what would prevent it for people tossing windows on their pc's and installing OS X?

[Earl Benser]

Nothing....

But OS X running on an Intel Processor, as in thenew Mac, is a lot
different than OS X running on an Intel (or AMD) powered PC.

Anyhow, first you have to get OS X running on a PC. Lots of blow-
hards out there making noise, but no one who can do it. And OS X
is there waiting to be used.