Comments on: Dell to open new PC plant in United States

Company set to announce plan to build stateside factory, CEO Kevin Rollins says in wide-ranging interview with CNET News.com.

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Why not AMD?

With regard to AMD, I think _Dell_ should ask customers if they want AMD processors. How are customers suppose to ask Dell? And if they do, does Mr. Rollins get notified? I don't think so. Maybe they could pilot one model of server with AMD cpus and see how they sell (with marketing support I hope). It's not that big of an investment for a company like Dell. I think this would be a hit in the Linux market. I know many people moving from Dell Intel-based PowerEdges to IBM and HP now. Finally, has Dell ever approached AMD (recently) with a proposal with a target production volume? What did they say? I wonder if Intel is doing some sort of buy-one-get-one-free with Dell?

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Your final statement is where it's at.

I don't think Dell comes out and states that going with AMD would cost too much if he wasn't trying to get that cost down. Best way to get the costs down is to work with AMD and provide the details you mention.

Certainly if Dell is losing market share to IBM and HP, they need to look into ways to reduce that. I seriously doubt people are leaving Intel based servers to go to AMD based servers just because they are going to use Linux. Linux will run on Intel based systems. Abandoning a current and working server to buy another server does not save you money, even if it does happen all too often.

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Liar - I want AMD

I get a discount on Dell products through the company that I work for. With that discount, its an advantage for me to buy Dell products. However, I do want an Athlon 64 system, but Dell will not offer one, so I must buy elsewhere.

The Athlon 64 processor is faster at business applications and is also faster at compiling code. With a good portion of Dell sales targeted at businesses, you would think that they would want to offer the faster processor.

If Dell will not offer AMD products, I wish that they would at least have the courage to be honest why that is. It is common knowlege that Intel offers Dell significant discounts and co-markteting dollars to remain Intel-only. So if they were at least honest and said "we will not offer AMD because Intel makes it financially attractive for us not to", then you could respect their decision.

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AMD needs to lure Dell.

If Dell reaches the 30% market share they are setting out for, then AMD seriously needs to lure Dell in to making systems with AMD processors. Intel already has a good partnership with the company, and Dell has no incentive to ruin that relationship. It will take a mighty big change in AMD's marketing practices to get Dell to start offering any AMD based systems.

Dell is the only major PC manufacturer left that doesn't offer more than just Intel based systems. If you look at the companies that have a major AMD offering, they also have a history of some non-Intel systems. I'm really looking at IBM and HP here with their high end unix server lines. You've still got some small companies like Gateway, but when was the last time you saw a Gateway server?

?! Who's in who's pockets?

"Advanced Micro Devices "has gotten much better" at producing technology, Rollins said, but he indicated that AMD would have to overcome several impediments before Dell would buy its processors. For one thing, Dell customers aren't really asking for AMD processors, he said."

Ah, would he care to explain the "several impediments" so we know what he's talking about? AMD has matched and gone beyond the performance of Intel. I've been turning people whom ask me for buying advice to Compaq/HP as of late because they have AMD processors. And how are we supposed to ask? I'm sure if Dell tried selling AMD based computers, they would soon find out that the demand is there.
He's wrong, sounds to me like a classic case of <subject line> to me.

AMD

i believe that Dell's computers and business would benefit greatly from using AMD processors. They say that customers aren't really asking for them but how many have they actually asked?

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Can't ask for what's not there...

Since absolutely nobody requests a Dell with an AMD processor (since you can't) then NO current Dell customer has requested it. Seems pretty logical, if even short-sighted to me :)

Is he on CRACK? - Of course I want AMD !!

This Dell rep is clearly not listening to his future customers. In the book "The Innovator's Dilemma" many companies fall into the trap of listening only to their existing customer base. This allows competitors to innovate with lower-priced products, which innevitably move upmarket. AMD is a classic case from almost right from the pages of Clayton M. Christensen's book.

I'be been building my own AMD-based systems since they were 386 clones. Now, my latest system is the upmarket Athlon 64 3500+. Dell does not have my business because they do not carry AMD. Additionally, when I buy on Government contracts, I purchase HP servers -- not Dell -- Dell does not carry AMD.

I would love it if Dell offered AMD systems, but if they are captive to their existing customer base and are willfuly turning a blind eye to the wants and needs of their their future customers, they will limit their own growth opportunities.

Dell=Ditto

GEE THANKS all mighty Dell!
Throwing the USA a bone by building PC by Americans for a
change. Too little, too late dude.
Large quantity with total lack of quality is Dull's vision.

What the H**L has Dell Invented?
OS = NO
Processor Chip = NO
Industry leading software = NO
hardware / hardrives / CD-DVD Drives = NO
Monitors = NO
Wireless technology = NO
Cheap & clunky imitations, poorly manufactured in third world
countries by outsourced foreign workers = YES
Technical Support by outsourced employess in New
Dell-hi India = YES
Michael Dull, shut up, sit down, get out of the way.
Dull = Yesterday's news faking its' way to sell cheap crates &
TVs to the masses that have been hypnotized by his propaganda
& WallMart prices.
Dude, you're getting a Dud.
- Eyes wide open in Seattle -

in need of therapy?

yes, we all can read you are in need of some therapy. It's good to get all that out. Its a start. Now go get some help with that!

WinTelDell Monopoly

Of course Micro$oft & Intel are paying for marketing &
commercials for Dull. Every Dull commercial ALWAYS states that
Dull's comes with MS XP Server / MS XP Pro / Intel Inside chime
pops up to REMIND the Dull-minded Citizens that the WinTelDell
Cartel is the ONLY CHOICE to make for your PC needs.

Over course 64 bit AMD & IBM G5 processors are better than
Intel's chips, but until ShortHorn vaporware MS OS comes out in
2006, there's no 64 OS available (EXCEPT for Mac OSX, Sun
Solaris, Linux, SGI )
Gee... you think the monopolist are dragging their feet to
promote 64 bit computing options until Shorthorn finally
delivers on all of its "cure-all-wiz-bang" promises from Citizen
Gates...? maybe? That's why AND64's are kept in the shadows
since AMD is not a "player" in the illegal monopoly of the
WintelDell Cartel.
Follow the money & look at the man behind the curtain my
friends...
-eyes wide open in Seattle-

wow

WOW! Someone has a few major issues to deal with.