Comments on: Microsoft: Vista SP1 will break these programs

List of applications affected by service pack installation include Trend Micro's Internet Security 2008 and the Times Reader.

[XeroComplex]

CNet just trying to bash on Vista

This article is pure propaganda against windows Vista. If you
follow the link, you'll see that there's a handful of programs that
don't work with Vista, AND that these programs can be fixed in
the future.

Even if this is all the article is saying, is there any reason to give
the headline that title? What's the point of the article in the first
place?

Vista isn't even all that terrible

[fred dunn]

SERVICE STACK? Good editing C|Net...

Not only did I post a comment about the mistake but I sent them an email about it.

So I guess C|Net either doesn't care about their content or they don't know what they are talking about.

Repeat after me.....SERVICE PACK...SERVICE PACK....(just keep repeating that until you recognize that it doesn't sound like SERVICE STACK!

[as901]

Beware Microsoft updates!

With each "Microsoft update", my computer became less and less able to run non Microsoft programs, After years of this, I moved to Linux. It was the best move I have ever made. I do not have system crashes any longer.

The choice is yours. Use only what you have used in the past, or learn slightly more and trade up to a stable operating system!

Imagine never having your operating system crash again?

Mark Heinemann

[Fil0403]

Beware Microsoft FUD!

With each "Linux use", my computer became less and less able to run any kind of software and hardware. After years on this, I moved to Vista. It was the best move I have ever made. I do not have software nor hardware incompatibilities any longer. The choice is yours. Use what strangers recommend you on the Internet, or learn slightly more and keep using a perfectly secure, stable and compatible operating system that is used by over 90% of the computer world! Imagine never having your operating system complain your software or hardware doesn't work?

[Fil0403]

CNET: Vista SP1 will kill you

It must be a pure coincidence that in this whole usual Vista FUD story is never mentioned that this horror list is comprised of an astonishing number of 12 applications and that Vista SP1 will (ironically) make more applications compatible than the ones it will make incompatible.

[mread41]

RE: CNET: Vista SP1 will kill you

Exactly my thoughts! I'm glad someone has sense enough to state it too. With there being no less than *hundreds of thousands* of programs, 12 isn't enough to even make an issue of. It's outright laughable I think that so many get uppity about the article when not a single program I would be willing to wager *any* of the posters on this thread actually use themselves besides *maybe* zone alarm.

I must applaud Microsoft that they can modify such a complex program and manage to keep the list so impressively small.

[Sumatra-Bosch]

One Word: V I S T A P O C A L YP S E

Anyone who mounted this horrific piece of barphware in an enterprise needs to be fired with extreme prejudice. No one I've heard from can report anything besides relentless screw-ups, performance mishaps and outright trainwrecks. Ignore the MSFT trolls who chime in with stories about Vista actually working and curing multiple sclerosis.

[berkej]

No major ills here

I've had decent luck so far with Vista and SP1 has only improved my own experience. I do not work for Microsoft, have no affiliation and I don't even own any Microsoft Stock.

I've been using Vista Ultimate and Vista Business for 2 weeks now. I am running on a laptop that is a slightly higher class then the normal consumer laptops (Intel T9300 with 3GB RAM) which I am sure helps the performance woes others have.

My only gripe is that I have to relearn where a lot of tools and commands are. Everything that I have grown used to over the last 8 years since I started using Windows 2000 has changed.

[cross platform]

Well I'm Not A MS Troll

And I'm telling you I'm just a guy who uses his computer at home. For Alot of stuff ( not just surfing the web ) and I really don't have alot of issues with Vista. I was starting to have issues with XP which upgrading to Vista fixed. Like IE 7 works and works faster under Vista. The whole Vista bashing thing is stupid. It has just gotten better for me since I upgraded in October. You lille Apocalypse you've been crying for months now hasn't happened has it?

[mread41]

Vistapocalypse

I think the cleverness of the title was the most redeeming part of the post alas. Use it before you bash it please. :)

I have 5 different copies of Vista on my *personal* computers... and I like them all thank you. =)

As for performance mishaps - buy a computer that isn't cheap and is actually made to run Vista, not an XP computer that meets the absolute minimums (just like you wouldn't but an XP computer with a celeron processor and 256mb memory and expect it to be fast).

Trainwrecks - The only thing I've seen that was even a significant issue is the problem with the SP1 pre-update to add the ability to add/remove the service pack later. =P

Barphware - I don't think there is such a word; but if that is what Vista is, it must be good stuff to want to try it again! 8D

Extreme Prejudice - Or maybe they actually know what they're doing? As unlikely as it may seem, being a certified proffesional myself, I beg to differ. Enterprises wait because their custom software has to be rebuilt, sorry but it's not so much because of vista problems as that they have to rebuild their software and upgrade most of their systems friend.

Relentless Screw-ups - Vista is a new trick, learn old dog! (pun intended) =)
Don't blame the trick because it's new and different, doesn't make much sense if you think of it that way does it?

As for being an MSFT? Nope, I'm a computer technician who works for a major comporations comsumer service/support (being a microsoft certified proffessional is just part of the job). If you think Vista is a nightmare, try working on them sometime. You won't hardly ever have to. And when you do, you will find it is user error much more often than not. =)

[MyLord]

My Vista problems

Occur even without SP1. IM programs rarely work, either failing to login or become non-responsive. IE refuses to run except in administrator mode, even without any of the reported issues such as inaccessible temporary folders. These problems have been getting worse rather than better over time. I know people giving up on it and reverting to XP because the problems become so frustrating.

[cross platform]

You're having real problems

However I don't have any of the problems you listed. Such as IE 7 works better in Vista for me than it did in XP!

[mread41]

Vista problems

That's odd, you may want to check with the computer manufacturer, as it sounds like it may be an OEM version problem. I've never seen/heard of someone having a problem with IM programs not functioning. As for your IE having problems running except in administrator mode, there is something seriously wrong with what you have added on to it, as administrator priveledge is only typically required when you are installing something or performing changes to files/system processes/system properties.

I would check and see if you've not picked up a virus or spyware friend, because that's what it sounds like. I work on computers in consumer report for a living, try Trendmicro's free online scanner and see if it shows up anything and/or use Hijackthis (also from trendmicro) and see what's running. Either way, hijackthis may help you determine what addition to IE or what process now associated with it is causing your troubles.

Even on OEM versions of Vista, I've never had IE require administrative priveledge except when infected with malware.

[MyLord]

Identified the cause

Vista allows administrative accounts without passwords and will work for a while, but over time the system breaks down to the point that even the control panel will fail. Setting a password for the account cures the problem.

[Pocket-PC]

Hard to finds admin tools

try typing the first few letters on the tool in the run/search box (eg; type "sys").

[rccoffee]

Shhhhh.

AppleRocks1963

I have a Mac-Leopard after dealing with M$ since 1995 until 2007. But let's
keep this a secret between us. MS provides a lot of jobs writing code,
critical updates, security update, updates and a lot of anti-malware
software companies and gives a lot of work to Windoze computer
manufacturers. With the slowdown in our economy, we need all these jobs.

Wait until MS cranks out its next OS. I predict that it will be called Futura!

[dan356]

Why?

Why doesn't Microsoft just shoot vista, put back xp and just keep upgrading that? The only reason I started to use Ubuntu was because of Vista, vista its just doodie in a hole. Microsoft is going to lose a huge fan base if they stick with vista. Why would they make a service pack and make it so its not compatible with some programs? How simple is it to keep things compatible with a SP? Its just an upgrade! Thats like installing a game, than microsoft makes an update than after you install the update the game doesn't work! Its basically a Jewish way of stealing peoples money. In the end I just say "Oh well, See you later Vista you generic piece of dirt"

[jkoskovics]

I'm sorry to say that the update also disabled my copy of Microsoft Streets & Trips 2008 along with the Trend Micro product. Thankfully, I still have a Windows XP machine that can use the products, so it's not a complete waste. But I'm now in the position where I must go back to my old XP machines. No choice. And I'm going to hang onto XP for as long as the machines can run. The laptop with vista will become?a paperweight, (or at least shoved in the closet until I can afford to experiment again).
I'm not Bill Gates...I can't afford to replace software every month. I have to pay for greater essentials...like food, clothing, housing, education, and gas.