Comments on: Apple megapatch plugs 45 security holes

Update for Mac OS X includes a number of fixes for zero-day vulnerabilities released as part of two high-profile bug-hunting campaigns.

[the1kingarthur]

Thank you all for proving my point

After reading ALL the negative posts, I want to seriously thank each and every one of you for proving what I said was true. Thank you.

No facts
No reference points
Ignorance of history

[Siegfried Schtauffen]

But you are no better! (NT)

NT

[macjimlin]

Oh Dear

You are mistaking opinion for fact.

Your post is mostly opinion and a tiny bit of fact that anybody could google up in about 10 seconds.

You're a fanboy and you know it.

[protagonistic]

RE: Thank you all for proving my point

Ignorance really must be bliss. Educate yourself on the alternatives
available and the risks involved. And most importantly, open your
mind. You might be surprised.

[the1kingarthur]

Thank you all for proving my point

After reading ALL the negative posts, I want to seriously thank each and every one of you for proving what I said was true. Thank you.

No facts
No reference points
Ignorance of history

[Siegfried Schtauffen]

But you are no better! (NT)

NT

[macjimlin]

Oh Dear

You are mistaking opinion for fact.

Your post is mostly opinion and a tiny bit of fact that anybody could google up in about 10 seconds.

You're a fanboy and you know it.

[protagonistic]

RE: Thank you all for proving my point

Ignorance really must be bliss. Educate yourself on the alternatives
available and the risks involved. And most importantly, open your
mind. You might be surprised.

[Siegfried Schtauffen]

If this was Windows...

...there would be several worms/viruses within a week to catch out the people who don't allow auto-patching. But it is a for a computer that has under 5% world market share so who cares?

Market share myth you say? It is not a myth, it is a fact. The proof is in the numbers that Apple fanboys love to repeat. Thousands of Windows viruses, and even a few successful ones. But few care to target Apple. It just isn't worth the bother, even if 45 security holes are patched in a month.

[Macsaresafer]

That's just stupid.

The fact is that there were viruses for Mac OS 9 and earlier
versions of the the Mac OS, each of which had fewer users than
OS X. There are still none for OS X because there is a huge
difference between a vulnerability and an exploit.

A vulnerability indicates that an exploit might be possible. It
says nothing about the degree of difficulty. To get an idea of the
difficulty involved in creating exploits for an OS, you need to
look at the number of exploits. Windows has over 100,000
exploits, indicating that a Windows vulnerability is far easier to
exploit than an OS X vulnerability.

[Siegfried Schtauffen]

If this was Windows...

...there would be several worms/viruses within a week to catch out the people who don't allow auto-patching. But it is a for a computer that has under 5% world market share so who cares?

Market share myth you say? It is not a myth, it is a fact. The proof is in the numbers that Apple fanboys love to repeat. Thousands of Windows viruses, and even a few successful ones. But few care to target Apple. It just isn't worth the bother, even if 45 security holes are patched in a month.

[Macsaresafer]

That's just stupid.

The fact is that there were viruses for Mac OS 9 and earlier
versions of the the Mac OS, each of which had fewer users than
OS X. There are still none for OS X because there is a huge
difference between a vulnerability and an exploit.

A vulnerability indicates that an exploit might be possible. It
says nothing about the degree of difficulty. To get an idea of the
difficulty involved in creating exploits for an OS, you need to
look at the number of exploits. Windows has over 100,000
exploits, indicating that a Windows vulnerability is far easier to
exploit than an OS X vulnerability.

[Christopher Hall]

All this bickering, but does it really matter?

Apple plugged 45 security holes. As in closed them. Isn't the world computing environment a better place for it, in the long run?

[bemenaker]

The most intelligent post here

Kudos!!!

[Christopher Hall]

All this bickering, but does it really matter?

Apple plugged 45 security holes. As in closed them. Isn't the world computing environment a better place for it, in the long run?

[bemenaker]

The most intelligent post here

Kudos!!!

[johnxtampa]

The term is "Security by Obsurity"

Although the operating system and applications are no better or worse than Windows or Linux, the Mac has a circumstantial advantage: there are so few users, the hackers don't bother.

It is security by obscurity, nothing else.

[lesfilip]

Three peas in a pod!

You, richto, and Lindy01. All wrong. Proven wrong, time and again,
by the facts of history. When Apple's market share was much lower
than it is now, there were more exploits.

Have a nice day!

[johnxtampa]

The term is "Security by Obsurity"

Although the operating system and applications are no better or worse than Windows or Linux, the Mac has a circumstantial advantage: there are so few users, the hackers don't bother.

It is security by obscurity, nothing else.

[lesfilip]

Three peas in a pod!

You, richto, and Lindy01. All wrong. Proven wrong, time and again,
by the facts of history. When Apple's market share was much lower
than it is now, there were more exploits.

Have a nice day!

[jpsalvesen]

blablah

The MacBook has a sizable market share. And those that buy them generally seem like non-technical people who wants a computer for web surfing, photo management etc etc. Prime targets.

Maybe we'll see more exploits soon - or maybe the Mac generally is harder to break into?

[lesfilip]

Hackers unsuccessful so far

Hackers have been trying unsuccessfully for half a decade already
with virtually no success. Yes, Mac OS X is hard to break into. It
may happen one day, but today is not that day.

Have a nice day!

[jpsalvesen]

blablah

The MacBook has a sizable market share. And those that buy them generally seem like non-technical people who wants a computer for web surfing, photo management etc etc. Prime targets.

Maybe we'll see more exploits soon - or maybe the Mac generally is harder to break into?

[lesfilip]

Hackers unsuccessful so far

Hackers have been trying unsuccessfully for half a decade already
with virtually no success. Yes, Mac OS X is hard to break into. It
may happen one day, but today is not that day.

Have a nice day!

[weegg]

Better than what MS does

I refer you to:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/
RDM.Tech.Q1.07/5F0C866C-6DDF-4A9A-9515-531B0CA0C29C.h
tml

Only OS vendor proven in court to purposely change their software
to break third party apps. Yeah, you must be so proud.

[weegg]

Better than what MS does

I refer you to:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/
RDM.Tech.Q1.07/5F0C866C-6DDF-4A9A-9515-531B0CA0C29C.h
tml

Only OS vendor proven in court to purposely change their software
to break third party apps. Yeah, you must be so proud.

[cryhavoc2112]

Mac's DO Get Viruses

Work in an Apple and MS environ. Apx 1000 OS X compys. Fileservers constantly hit with Mac viruses, just as frequently as PC. All OS's suck. I love watching the flamers every time one of these conversations are started. How many times can we hear the same things? Same as the Theism vs. Anti-theism argument... circular arguments r0x0r!

[rcrusoe]

No, Macs CAN get viruses. But it hasn't happened yet.

I have worked many years in a mixed OS environment. Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris, OS400, OS/2, etc., so believe me I know about viruses.

No OS is totally secure, but Apple's OS X has yet to be hit with a virus. It can happen, and it probably will.

But currently almost all of the hundreds of thousands of viruses floating around the net are Windows only.

[Macsaresafer]

BS

Name ONE virus that affects OS X. You can't, and you know it. Don't
bother trying to pass off a trojan that couldn't propagate as a
viruse either. There are zero OS X viruses, and anything you try to
pawn off as one will be easily exposed as a fraud.

[w i n t e r m u t e]

Mac's DO get viruses--NOT

So far at least, Macs running OS X do not get infected by viruses...
the only viruses I've seen on Macs running OS X are Windows
viruses that are not executable on OS X or the occasional VBscript
"macro virus" that infects and is contained within MS Office...
unless you've run into something that nobody else has yet
reported, including Apple and all anti-virus vendors. What "viruses"
are you talking about? I haven't yet found a single report of an OS X
virus found "in the wild"... not to say the day won't ever come.

[luomat]

Bull

There are no Mac OS X viruses. None. Zero. You are either wrong or lying. Feel free to attempt to clarify which by naming specifically which viruses you are talking about.

[cryhavoc2112]

Mac's DO Get Viruses

Work in an Apple and MS environ. Apx 1000 OS X compys. Fileservers constantly hit with Mac viruses, just as frequently as PC. All OS's suck. I love watching the flamers every time one of these conversations are started. How many times can we hear the same things? Same as the Theism vs. Anti-theism argument... circular arguments r0x0r!

[rcrusoe]

No, Macs CAN get viruses. But it hasn't happened yet.

I have worked many years in a mixed OS environment. Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris, OS400, OS/2, etc., so believe me I know about viruses.

No OS is totally secure, but Apple's OS X has yet to be hit with a virus. It can happen, and it probably will.

But currently almost all of the hundreds of thousands of viruses floating around the net are Windows only.

[Macsaresafer]

BS

Name ONE virus that affects OS X. You can't, and you know it. Don't
bother trying to pass off a trojan that couldn't propagate as a
viruse either. There are zero OS X viruses, and anything you try to
pawn off as one will be easily exposed as a fraud.

[w i n t e r m u t e]

Mac's DO get viruses--NOT

So far at least, Macs running OS X do not get infected by viruses...
the only viruses I've seen on Macs running OS X are Windows
viruses that are not executable on OS X or the occasional VBscript
"macro virus" that infects and is contained within MS Office...
unless you've run into something that nobody else has yet
reported, including Apple and all anti-virus vendors. What "viruses"
are you talking about? I haven't yet found a single report of an OS X
virus found "in the wild"... not to say the day won't ever come.

[luomat]

Bull

There are no Mac OS X viruses. None. Zero. You are either wrong or lying. Feel free to attempt to clarify which by naming specifically which viruses you are talking about.

[iZune]

Apple is Horrible

Apple is so horrible.

[Vegaman_Dan]

They patched

Any company that addresses security concerns with patches of any kind are to be congratulated.

[Vegaman_Dan]

They patched

Any company that addresses security concerns with patches of any kind are to be congratulated.

[lesfilip]

Funny

You're pretty funny after reading what the PC fanboys have been
writing.

[iZune]

Apple is Horrible

Apple is so horrible.

[Vegaman_Dan]

They patched

Any company that addresses security concerns with patches of any kind are to be congratulated.

[Vegaman_Dan]

They patched

Any company that addresses security concerns with patches of any kind are to be congratulated.

[lesfilip]

Funny

You're pretty funny after reading what the PC fanboys have been
writing.

[frankwick]

Windows vs. Mac: They are both the same!!

MS releases smaller monthly patches and Apple releases random mega patches. Who cares??!?!? apple has that luxury because if their small market share. MS is always under the microscope because of their HUGE marketshare. If Apple had a strong corporate presence then they would be forced to be more consistent - but they don't and they won't so let apple play in their niche. Apple 'fanboys' love whatever apple does and no one is going to change that. I've always said the Mac fans buy whatever Steve Jobs sells - literally and figuratively.

[lesfilip]

Right and wrong

"If Apple had a strong corporate presence then they would be
forced to be more consistent"

Right.

"Mac fans buy whatever Steve Jobs sells - literally and figuratively."

Wrong. Many Mac fans are the hardest customers to please. They
will not buy something blindly.

[frankwick]

Windows vs. Mac: They are both the same!!

MS releases smaller monthly patches and Apple releases random mega patches. Who cares??!?!? apple has that luxury because if their small market share. MS is always under the microscope because of their HUGE marketshare. If Apple had a strong corporate presence then they would be forced to be more consistent - but they don't and they won't so let apple play in their niche. Apple 'fanboys' love whatever apple does and no one is going to change that. I've always said the Mac fans buy whatever Steve Jobs sells - literally and figuratively.

[lesfilip]

Right and wrong

"If Apple had a strong corporate presence then they would be
forced to be more consistent"

Right.

"Mac fans buy whatever Steve Jobs sells - literally and figuratively."

Wrong. Many Mac fans are the hardest customers to please. They
will not buy something blindly.

[Thomas, David]

UFB

Un-%^&ing-Believable

Honey, I got a mega-patch! Apple didn't call it that, I wonder why
CNET does?

Oooooo. Now I have to listen to all of the illogical,
incomprehensible crap from people who barely deserve to occupy
space on the planet.

[Thomas, David]

UFB

Un-%^&ing-Believable

Honey, I got a mega-patch! Apple didn't call it that, I wonder why
CNET does?

Oooooo. Now I have to listen to all of the illogical,
incomprehensible crap from people who barely deserve to occupy
space on the planet.