Comments on: Java stir puts Sun in a spot

Software flaw highlights the rising need for Sun to reach out to tech greenhorns.

Tragic

What has this world come to when a company isn't willing to do the thinking for its customers?

MS is used to dealing with idiots, in fact their entire business is based around those morons.

At least issues with the JVM is rare, so users having to spend 5 seconds thinking will just have to deal and be happy.

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I can't believe that analyst just said that!

"'Companies--I don't care what area they are in, if they are catering to consumers, they need to reduce the number of choices a consumer has to make,' analyst Kay said."

That is amongst the stupidest comments I've ever heard made by an analyst. Nice work Kay!

I can't believe your comment

I can't believe your ignorance to the human-computer interaction field, their studies, and their conclusions.

Don't forget to select the correct version of the JRE

Two things puzzled me about Sun's method of updating software: even though jusched.exe is running regularly on my Windows XP machine, it didn't pick up the 1.4.2_06, so I had to download and install it manually. Second, after installing it, I was still running the older JRE. This is how I changed it to the latest version.

After downloading and installing the JRE 1.4.2_06 update from Sun's Java website, I had to select that version of the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) manually in the Java Plug-In Control Panel. That panel resides in the Windows Control Panel. Select the "Advanced" tab from the Java Plug-In Control Panel, and select J2RE 1.4.2_06 from the drop-down listbox. Next, click on the "Apply" button. To make sure this was done correctly, click on the "About" tab and check that 1.4.2_06 is shown under Runtime Environment. Now, my applets that failed before run correctly.

I hope that the cooperation between SUN and Microsoft results in mutual education. SUN should show more about how Java works, and Microsoft can teach SUN a few things about automatic updating. In the past, when I administered SUN workstations, applying patches was a major effort that sometimes involved technical support calls. My Windows XP Pro machine and my 2003 server have used (automatic) WIndows Update since I deployed these machines. Patch management is no longer a dark art, nor should it take as much effort as SUN is asking us with Java. It is not that I am not able to do it, it is just that doing the same manual steps on dozens of PC's is tedious and should be unnecessary with a properly designed jusched.exe process.

[ari_fan]

legitimate redirect?

The link to Sun's Java page in the "What should
I do?" section is redirected to dw.com.com. Is
that a data collection point of some kind,
or is it something to be concerned about?

[Yoshihama1]

Easy fix for Firefox users

If you do use Firefox, and are concerned about this, you can go to Options > Web Features and uncheck the box labeled Enable Java.

[Mel7]

Pathetic Customer support from Sun

Manually updating from 1.4.2_05 still just comes back saying you have the current version. Boy they are really on top of things. It always amazes me that small businesses and independent developers are almost always more on top of things than all these megalothic (MS, Sun, Symantec, etc) that have umpteam thousand employees doing nothing.