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The software code, written by a group of Italian teenagers, targets flaws in Cisco Systems' IOS software.

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Programmer requirements: Total idiot!
by bjbrock March 29, 2004 7:27 PM PST
It looks like programmers and their companies don't care if their products work or not. Maybe before IT companies come out with new versions of their time bombs, they should try to make their current version work without it puking all over itself and anyone using it. Software has become one big joke. Security tools with security issues, patch-a-day operating systems, and a ton of other venomous software. The consumer must love to live dangerously. I can see now what the thrill of computers is all about, living dangerously, on the edge knowing any minute that your IT is going to be hacked and your careers work will end up in alphabet heaven. WOW! Gambling with your future is an awesome rush! I'm glad I finally figured out what this IT business is all about. Silly me, I thought it was about information. Well gotta go. I need to go get the latest OS out, I hear that the risks are so big and so plentiful it's better than playing Russian Roulette with five out of six chambers loaded. Rad!
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Thats a little extreme, but I see your point
by March 30, 2004 7:16 AM PST
>It looks like programmers and their companies
>don't care if their products work or not.

That is both wrong and right at the same time. From my experience, often companies don't mind a few bugs, but programmers never like bugs. It makes them look bad, and if their code often has bugs, they gain a reputation for it, and often have a harder time finding jobs due to that.

>Software has become one big joke. Security tools
>with security issues, patch-a-day operating
>systems, and a ton of other venomous software.

The major problem isn't that they are released with bugs, its that in a controlled environment, its nearly impossible to find all the bugs. Bugs are a pure fact of software, and a good programmer knows that. A great programmer is someone who knows how to find bugs, and fix them. And operating systems are about the biggest piece of software you can make. There are so many different factors, that I believe it to be IMPOSSIBLE for an operating system to ever be released that is bug free.

And the venomous software, is just that. Either virus's that are programmed to break things, or software so badly made you would have thought it was ment to be bad. In the case of corporate venomous software, quite often its the companies fault, not the programmer. They all see a way to make a quick buck, so they do, regardless what their programmers tell them.

>Well gotta go. I need to go get the latest OS
>out, I hear that the risks are so big and so
>plentiful it's better than playing Russian
>Roulette with five out of six chambers loaded.
>Rad!

I must commend you on that statement. Very well written!

Kyle King
Programmer requirements: Total idiot!
by bjbrock March 29, 2004 7:27 PM PST
It looks like programmers and their companies don't care if their products work or not. Maybe before IT companies come out with new versions of their time bombs, they should try to make their current version work without it puking all over itself and anyone using it. Software has become one big joke. Security tools with security issues, patch-a-day operating systems, and a ton of other venomous software. The consumer must love to live dangerously. I can see now what the thrill of computers is all about, living dangerously, on the edge knowing any minute that your IT is going to be hacked and your careers work will end up in alphabet heaven. WOW! Gambling with your future is an awesome rush! I'm glad I finally figured out what this IT business is all about. Silly me, I thought it was about information. Well gotta go. I need to go get the latest OS out, I hear that the risks are so big and so plentiful it's better than playing Russian Roulette with five out of six chambers loaded. Rad!
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Thats a little extreme, but I see your point
by March 30, 2004 7:16 AM PST
>It looks like programmers and their companies
>don't care if their products work or not.

That is both wrong and right at the same time. From my experience, often companies don't mind a few bugs, but programmers never like bugs. It makes them look bad, and if their code often has bugs, they gain a reputation for it, and often have a harder time finding jobs due to that.

>Software has become one big joke. Security tools
>with security issues, patch-a-day operating
>systems, and a ton of other venomous software.

The major problem isn't that they are released with bugs, its that in a controlled environment, its nearly impossible to find all the bugs. Bugs are a pure fact of software, and a good programmer knows that. A great programmer is someone who knows how to find bugs, and fix them. And operating systems are about the biggest piece of software you can make. There are so many different factors, that I believe it to be IMPOSSIBLE for an operating system to ever be released that is bug free.

And the venomous software, is just that. Either virus's that are programmed to break things, or software so badly made you would have thought it was ment to be bad. In the case of corporate venomous software, quite often its the companies fault, not the programmer. They all see a way to make a quick buck, so they do, regardless what their programmers tell them.

>Well gotta go. I need to go get the latest OS
>out, I hear that the risks are so big and so
>plentiful it's better than playing Russian
>Roulette with five out of six chambers loaded.
>Rad!

I must commend you on that statement. Very well written!

Kyle King
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