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Comments on: Spying on spyware

Nearly a third of machines checked for Trojan horse programs or monitoring software infected, survey finds.

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Those statistics seem good, if incomplete
by ScifiterX June 16, 2004 6:35 PM PDT
Being an Earthlink customer and friends with a number of
Windows PC users, I see about the same ratio of PC infected and
to the degrees being shown. However, the test only work under
Windows and while most spyware is Windows and I know that
not all of it is and not everyone uses Windows. I know many
users who use some type of Mac OS or Linux. It would be
interesting to have comparative results, for all those systems not
to mention informative.
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95% are plain cookies
by June 17, 2004 5:32 AM PDT
I ran that program on earthlinks site. For me every single file was just a tracking cookie which they considered spy ware (and easily deleteable at that). I didn't see any trojans or spyware programs on my pc, yet, they seemed to think i did have them. I take this report with a grain of salt.
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Problem bad enough without overstating it
by June 17, 2004 8:59 AM PDT
Spyware is truly the scourge of the internet today, and there is plenty of it around for people to be worried about without needing to inflate the statistics by bringing in cookies. I am in agreement that cookies can be used to do all sorts of tracking, but cookies are the result of a choice you make in accepting or altering your browsers settings AND they are easily managed by your browser. If you don't want one from XYZ you can tell you browser that and you are done. They aren't executable and they aren't running wild on your computer. Let's not forget to that we NEED cookies to make things like shopping baskets work.

Spyware on the other hand is insidius. It is executable and in many cases there is no way to manage or remove it. It degrades systems or makes them unusable. Often it is itself illegal in its installation or facilitates illegal activity.

If we are not extremely careful in how we frame this debate, we will certainly wind up with perhaps well intentioned but overly zealous and ill informed legislators reacting to surveys like Elinks and passing laws that impact not just the pernicious but also the desireable.

This is a slippery slope that needs good judgement from ALL the players. The problem is real enough without needing to include non executables.
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