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World's largest chipmaker hit with record EU fine, while Google caused its own network outage. Also: SlingPlayer for iPhone, sans 3G.

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by queticomn May 15, 2009 7:56 AM PDT
Hrm,

iBM, cell processor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_microprocessor
good luck beating that intel.

aMD^ "the future is fusion"
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by slickuser May 15, 2009 8:57 AM PDT
dude, cell is dead. anyone else other than sony using it?

aMD^ "the future is fusion" - aMD^ "The future is fuzzy"
by Fil0403 May 17, 2009 1:59 AM PDT
Hrm,

Intel, Quad-Core Itanium 2 Processor (code-named Tukwila).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium_2#Itanium_2_processors:_2002.E2.80.93present
Good luck beating that + around 75% world market share IBM.

mE^ "the future is Intel"
by Fil0403 May 17, 2009 2:02 AM PDT
Hem,

Intel, Quad-Core Itanium 2 processor (code-named Tukwila).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium_2#Itanium_2_processors:_2002.E2.80.93present
Good luck beating that + around 75% world market share IBM.

wORLD^ "the future is Intel"
by queticomn May 15, 2009 10:21 AM PDT
iBM: PowerXCell 8i bandwidth: greater than 300 GB/s
Fujitsu: Venus SPARC64 VIIIfx which is capable of 128 GFLOPs *announced today*
Intel: Intel Core i7 6.9 GB/s.

Heh.
Cell has it...
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by Fil0403 May 17, 2009 2:08 AM PDT
You're comparing apples to oranges without even mentioning whether that is interprocessor or memory bandwidth, ignorant. Intel's Quad-Core Itanium 2 processor (code-named Tukwila) has 96 GB/s peak interprocessor bandwidth. Plus:

Intel: +- 75 % worldwide CPU market share
IBM: 25- %
Fujitsu: +- 0 %

Heh.
Cell has it alright.
by queticomn May 22, 2009 7:03 PM PDT
@Fil0403in terms of speed duh..
by cuentitarrr May 15, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
The question now is where all that money from the fine will go? Supposedly, fines are to protect the customer, but such a big amount of money will really go to the consumers that have been damaged by Intel's practices?

What really interests me is where all the money from the fine will go.
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by Fil0403 May 17, 2009 2:11 AM PDT
It will go to finance next Microsoft's record fine for engaging in anti-competitive actions by bundling Windows with Paint, thus seriously hurting Adobe and its Photoshop business.
by santuccie June 2, 2009 10:50 PM PDT
I'm with Fil0403 on this one. This, and also Opera suing MS for bundling IE. Never mind that MS Updates and some applications rely on IE, or that a lot of Web pages won't even display in Opera.

Of course AMD had to take Intel overseas to sue them, rather that here at home, where courts go by the book. In Europe, frightening the pigeons is a formal charge, LOL.
by mupptasstic May 15, 2009 9:25 PM PDT
The question now is where all that money from the fine will go? Supposedly, fines are to protect the customer, but such a big amount of money will really go to the consumers that have been damaged by Intel's practices?

What really interests me is where all the money from the fine will go."


It's to fund our new gay married peoples adoption scheme, where gay couples can adopt kids.....oh and harvesting stem cells from dead babies...yeah that sounds good....
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by Fil0403 May 17, 2009 2:13 AM PDT
As long as money is being take from Microsoft or Intel everybody's happy. There's a reason why they don't touch Apple and their Windows-like iPod/iTunes business, for example. They don't have 10 % of the money and it would be unpopular.

P.S. I am a happy iPod/iTunes user.
by Fil0403 May 17, 2009 2:15 AM PDT
I am also a happ Windows Vista and future Windows 7 user, btw.
by JJDickson May 16, 2009 4:24 AM PDT
Intel would be quite entitled to withdraw its products from the EU market, and would be wise to do so. the EU is a corrupt, thieving immoral institution whose accounts have not been approved, nor signed off for over 15 years! Intel - don't pay the fine! JD.
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by Fil0403 May 17, 2009 2:22 AM PDT
Sometimes I also think the best thing Microsoft and Intel could do is to withdraw their products from the EU market, given sometimes it seems EU's main goal is basically to make technology consumer products worse (Windows N anyone?) and finance their expensive lifes (how come iPod/iTunes doesn't bother them? Could it be because Apple doesn't have 10 % of the money Microsoft and Intel do?), as if that would be customers' general wish. Then I start thinking how it would be here in EU without Microsoft and Intel and I thank God they don't do that.

P.S. I am a happy Windows + iTunes + iPod user.
by Fil0403 May 17, 2009 2:35 AM PDT
If, indeed, Intel engaged in anti-competitive practices, then IMO the EU should 1) make sure such things don't happen again (without hampering technology evolution) and 2) make sure that money goes to the customers they are supposedly protecting. I don't why, but I doubt any customer will ever see a cent of that money.

Either way, and regardless of whether Intel ever engaged in such practices or not, IMO they deserve to be in the position they are today (i.e. #1 spot) because they are the best in what they do and they will probably continue to be. This is just like Microsoft's case: they may have engaged in anti-competitive measures, but IMO no one gets to be #1 with crappy products and/or services. No one will want them if they suck. Their rivals (i.e. AMD and Apple) should be focused on delivering superior products that make people switch (and they certainly will if they are, indeed superior, it is the natural way of things) and stop whining and trying to find excuses why they can't beat the leaders (i.e. Intel and Microsoft). Fining big companies doesn't do nearly as much for us as customers as better products do.
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