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Comments on: SanDisk cranks up solid-state drive speed

ExtremeFFS flash file management system "has the potential," SanDisk says, to accelerate random write speeds by up to 100 times over existing systems.

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by Wookiee-1138 November 5, 2008 10:57 AM PST
I think users are more concerned with the read/write lifespan than the speed.
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by Seaspray0 November 5, 2008 3:23 PM PST
I agree with the concern over read/write lifespan. Brooke Crothers, can you provide any more information on The LDE metric you mentioned? How does a solid state drive compare to a hard disk drive for read/write lifespan? I've asked several cnet reporters to do an article on this subject and still nothing.
by dijitul November 5, 2008 6:53 PM PST
You can do your own research on lifespan and wear-leveling. Start with these high-end SSD drive manufacturers:

http://www.mtron.net/english/
http://www.intel.com/design/flash/nand/mainstream/index.htm
http://www.fusionio.com/
by koldflame November 5, 2008 11:32 AM PST
Hmm, personally if a hard drive can last for about 3 years of constant use (like the enterprise versions from mtron can) then I care more for speed, as I replace my HDD at least every 3 years. And the enterprise mtron SSDs already have sustained reads and writes of 130MB/s / 120MB/s, respectively. So, if SanDisk improves write speeds over that, provides the SSDs cheaper and includes a decent warrenty, I'm sold.
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by dijitul November 5, 2008 12:47 PM PST
On the contrary -- speed is the most important factor. For at least decade, the bottleneck in processing power of your computer has been the disk I/O. CPU and bus speeds have long surpassed the average human's daily processing requirements. Most of the time you spend waiting is because the computer is LOADING something from disk, not processing data or crunching numbers. In Windows, the most predominant disk usage comes from the paging file, web-browsing, and other temporary data transfers. Today's SSDs, predominantly from MTron and Intel, have VERY long lifespans because they implement wear-leveling (in the upwards of 20 years), so lifespan is not an issue if you buy the appropriate SSD. What matters now is: Do these SSDs take full advantage of the controller they connect to, and are the capacities reasonable? (I believe they are more than adequate for most operating system environments, but not for mass storage of static data.) Can they maintain SATA-II speeds for reading and writing? MTron has recently announced 250 MB/s read/write drives (yes, megaBYTES per second) for Jan 2009 introduction, so if SanDisk and Intel don't keep up, then what's the point of this article? There's no specs listed here. What's to brag about? SanDisk is not the first company in this market, and I doubt they will be a leader.
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by alegr November 5, 2008 2:00 PM PST
I noticed that when you write a bunch of files sequentially to a flash drive, you mostly get a decent speed. BUT when you run TWO write streams in parallel, speed drops dramatically. I wondered why; there is no mechanical arm to move. Looks like that's the flash's achilles heel.
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by dijitul November 5, 2008 6:50 PM PST
If you're talking about USB drives, you're comparing apples to oranges. USB and SATA-II SSD drives are two completely different beasts, using different hardware and transfer technology, as well as having widely different bandwidth capabilities.
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