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November 14, 2009 9:25 AM PST

Verizon sending antipiracy notices for Hollywood, too

by Greg Sandoval
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Verizon Communications has agreed to forward copyright violation notices on behalf of Hollywood studios, including NBC Universal, multiple sources tell CNET.

The news comes after Verizon began issuing the same type of copyright letters on Thursday--as part of a test--on behalf of the music industry.

In addition to its deals with the Recording Industry Association of America and NBC Universal, Verizon has similar partnerships with an undisclosed number of other film studios and copyright owners, according to sources with knowledge of the negotiations. It is unclear when Verizon began issuing the letters for NBC Universal.

A Verizon spokesman declined to comment. In response to questions about the deal, NBC Universal issued a statement:

"We are happy to be working with the ISP community to raise awareness about inappropriate online activity," the company said. "The notice from NBCU that accompanies the ISP's letter includes a link through which consumers can learn about legitimate content online, and provides a number to call if consumers feel they have been contacted in error. We note, however, that virtually no users have contested the accuracy of the notices."

While Verizon has agreed to do little more than forward letters to customers accused of copyright violations, the partnerships signal a shift in the second largest phone company's approach to the copyright wars.

With the exception of a similar agreement struck with Disney in 2005, Verizon has declined to help with antipiracy efforts. In comparison, many of Verizon's competitors have issued the same kind of letters for a long time. Others, including Cox Communications, take much stronger measures in dealing with suspected file sharers, going as far as terminating service of chronic violators.

Still, Verizon's shift is significant because it's more evidence that the big ISPs are now jumping into the piracy fray on the side of big entertainment companies.

The big question is: why now?

At this point there's only speculation but broadband companies have indicated they want greater access to premium TV shows and feature films.

Comcast's attempt to acquire NBC Universal may be one sign that this is occurring. Another is the growing willingness of some major TV networks and film studios to distribute content online. NBC Universal, in partnership with News Corp., created Hulu, the popular Web video service that offers top-rated TV shows and a few feature films. Another example is Sony Pictures' Crackle.com, which offers the largest menu of full-length feature films legally available on the Web.

A greater number of consumers are migrating to the Web for entertainment, and networks and studios know they must be where their audience is. That means TV and film companies are under pressure to turn the Internet into a viable distribution platform.

The draw for consumers is that Hulu and Crackle generate revenue by selling advertisements and offer the shows and films free of charge. In this soft economy, the Web is providing some cable customers an alternative to their cable subscriptions.

If broadband providers strengthen their ties to Hollywood, they might be able to thwart the Internet threat. Here's another reason that broadband providers might want to help end piracy: it's allegedly clogging their pipes.

Whatever the truth is, U.S. file sharers shouldn't fret quite yet. The antipiracy efforts of the entertainment industries appear to be a long way from creating the kind of digital roadblocks that have recently been established overseas.

In France, the government recently passed a law that would require ISPs to cut off Internet access to a repeat offenders. Similar laws have been passed in Taiwan and South Korea.

Greg Sandoval covers media and digital entertainment for CNET News. He is a former reporter for The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. E-mail Greg, or follow him on Twitter at http://twitter.com/sandoCNET.
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Verizon sending antipiracy notices for Hollywood, too
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by designbyike November 14, 2009 10:29 AM PST
yea, as annoying as this all is, artist & copyright holders do have a right to try and protect their property
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by cohaver November 14, 2009 11:00 AM PST
Hope RIAA got Court Order to tap People DNS uses. Hope Verizon Had Site Ad-visor Filters in their DNS Servers to block pirated copyrights or were they entrapping their Customers. Did Verizon Get Releases from their Customers to
Sell the Information to a 3 PARTY. Hacking Customers Uses How safe are Verizon Customers
by pentest November 14, 2009 11:11 AM PST
Yes, but it is the copyright holders responsibility, not a third party.
by Vegaman_Dan November 14, 2009 10:03 PM PST
I would agree more with those sentiments if the artists and creators actaully were abe lt financially benefit from all these lawsuits and assaults on the consumer.
by Renegade Knight November 16, 2009 8:24 AM PST
They have the right (and obligation) to protect their copyright. That doesn't mean they have the ability to force others to do it for them. They can however negotiate to achieve that. That said, keep in mind that what Verizion and others are donig is sending notices on alledged and suspected potential copyright infringing uses. There is no finding of actual abuse by the law in these cases so it's highly subject to abuse like the DMCA take down notices already are being abused.
by sharmajunior November 14, 2009 10:31 AM PST
Looks like Verizon is in a hurry to lose customers...LOL
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by cp256 November 14, 2009 11:40 AM PST
I's drop them like a hot potato if I used them. If they are pulling this BS, what other invasions of privacy are they silently perpetrating upon their customers?
by ikramerica--2008 November 14, 2009 10:55 AM PST
This sounds fair to me. If Verizon gets notice that a customer is being targeted, I think it's good that they let the customer know. And the copyright holders do have the right to go after thieves.

Verizon likely has some self interest here, too, because the heavy copyright violators likely use up tons of bandwidth every month, costing all customers in dollar terms and congestion delays.
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by Renegade Knight November 16, 2009 8:25 AM PST
There is a differenece between letting the customer know they are being snooped on by the RIAA etc. than sending a notice on behalf of the RIAA etc.
by stubbyns November 14, 2009 11:09 AM PST
US is turning into China.
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by Deelron November 14, 2009 11:43 AM PST
Not even close. China has a trade surplus.
by November 14, 2009 12:58 PM PST
@ Deelron

I was just thinking the same thing....
by sharmajunior November 14, 2009 1:03 PM PST
Hahahaha

good one!
by Michichael November 16, 2009 9:29 AM PST
Or France. Can we drop the whole "Freedom Fry" thing now? :P
by richard993 November 14, 2009 12:50 PM PST
I wonder why ISP's do not show the same level of aggression when it comes to pursuing other forms of online crimes such as fraud, theft, viruses, spammers, and paedophiles? Piracy is the least damaging threat when you consider all these other forms of crimes. It appears to be obvious that ISP's are warming up to record publishers because it improves their profitability (lower internet usage) and increases their potential to cut deals in the future.
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by HamSammy November 14, 2009 1:43 PM PST
cool story bro.
by JoeF2 November 14, 2009 7:46 PM PST
Indeed. The spam I get from botnetted machines is staggering.
by ddesy November 16, 2009 6:10 AM PST
The problem is that they are not really going after the pirates, either. They generally just send notifications along on behalf of other companies that are already tracking the piracy.
by Mr_fleabite November 16, 2009 6:32 AM PST
Follow the money. It's always about the money.
by Renegade Knight November 16, 2009 8:27 AM PST
Why would they? They sell pipes and access. They are not the law. They should stick to that. It's all my ISP can do to not block emails from the companies I do busuiness with. They can't even get that right.
by HlLLARY CLITON November 14, 2009 4:22 PM PST
I smell lots of lawsuits in the future, the recording industry frequently accuses individuals wrongly of file sharing, now we can sue Verizon for forwarding threatening letters wrongly too
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by psyop15 November 14, 2009 5:08 PM PST
If you knew anything about economics, you'd know that having or not having a trade surplus is only a minor indication of a country's economic health. So, please, don't spout off about things you apparently know nothing about in a futile attempt to appear witty and informed. It only makes you appear as ill-informed as you really are.
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by troyrig November 15, 2009 9:37 PM PST
An economics fanboy? That's a first.
by Renegade Knight November 16, 2009 8:30 AM PST
If you knew anything about economics you'd know that a trade surplus is a major indicator of a countries economic health. More to the point a trade deficit over the long run is a major indicator that there is a problem.

If you knew anything at all about communications you would have made managed to teach in this moment. Alas I'm a debater not an educator so you get stuck with this post.
by mluvas November 15, 2009 10:57 AM PST
Verizon & Droid = new servants of RIAA & MPAA
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by Michichael November 16, 2009 9:30 AM PST
I was WONDERING why they upped that termination fee...
by suvayanr2 November 15, 2009 5:09 PM PST
in the end, it's all about bandwidth,while heavy filesharers use a lot of. but still, with FIOS, there shouldn't really be any problem with having too little bandwidth. DSL is another story
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by Neumenon November 15, 2009 7:32 PM PST
It makes me wonder about the partially illegal means by which the RIAA obtains it's information that it wants to forward to the ISP.
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by Knightro2 November 16, 2009 5:24 AM PST
All they do is capture the IP address of the sharer. They forward that to Verizon with a notice. Verizon in turn does not give the RIAA any information about the customer. They just look up to see who is/was assigned that IP and forwards the letter to them. After that...there is nothing else. No disconnection, no release of information. It'll be more of a nuisance than anything else.
by Renegade Knight November 16, 2009 8:32 AM PST
@anon

The RIAA, to make it's accusation has to sniff the data stream of the user. To do that they are potentially violating the users copyrighted IP by accessing and using it without permission. In other words they are breaking the very rules they are fighting to "maintain" to make their case.
by Knightro2 November 16, 2009 9:01 AM PST
How exactly is a public IP (Internet Protocol) copyrighted?
by Michichael November 16, 2009 9:33 AM PST
@anon

I believe he's trying to make a comparison to a printed piece of paper. For instance, the collection of data onto bound sheets of paper is no more copyrighted than the collection of data bound into a packet. However the content of each is subject to intellectual property and copyright, because it's unique to the person that generated it. It's a stretch, but not a big one. I'm sure the comparison, when given to an antiquated judge, would float. The problem with the legal system is they don't understand how technology works and they try to legislate against it.
by Renegade Knight November 16, 2009 11:26 AM PST
@anon

It's not the data stream it's the content. The entire issue comes down to content. If piracy is accessing content via unauthorized methods then their accessing your copyrighted data to make sure that you aren't accessing their own content without your consent is also copyright infringment.

Everthing we create is copyrighted. Your post, my post, emails etc. It's all copyrighted automaticly.

IP as I used it is Intellectual Property. Internet Protocal is a network protocoal.
by willwillywilson November 16, 2009 6:29 AM PST
I love downloading movies before they come out. I love just getting music for free instead of paying for it. I hate paying too much for games. So I don't. I don't care if it's wrong. I'm not stopping.
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by Michichael November 16, 2009 9:36 AM PST
Willy, there's an old saying: Take what you want and pay for it. I don't tolerate or accept the RIAA or MPAA's mode of doing business, but don't be surprised if eventually the overall quality of things drop as a result of less return on investment. Not that it's a problem yet (Cough, MW2 launch, Cough).

Then again, look at the quality of movies that have come out lately.

Disclaimer: I don't pirate. I make short videos that are open to fair use by anyone and everyone. I don't expect to make a profit from it. I think that covers everything anyone could use about me being unorthodox in my stances...
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