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October 16, 2009 10:59 AM PDT

MPAA: Antipiracy is now 'content protection'

by Greg Sandoval
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LOS ANGELES--The six largest Hollywood film studios are apparently dissatisfied with the way their trade group has waged war on illegal file sharing. CNET News has learned that at least three leaders of its antipiracy operations have been fired.

Among the three who were quietly ushered out of their posts at the Motion Picture Association of America three weeks ago was Greg Goeckner, the MPAA's general counsel. The others were the MPAA's director of worldwide antipiracy operations and its deputy director of Internet antipiracy. Goeckner will remain with the MPAA until the end of the year.

Other MPAA staffers were let go as part of a dramatic restructuring of the piracy-fighting operations, which included dropping the word "antipiracy" in favor of the term "content protection."

According to two sources in the film industry, the MPAA's antipiracy leadership had failed to impress studio executives, some of whom were concerned that the unit lacked aggressiveness. The reshuffling at the highest levels of the MPAA's antipiracy efforts will undoubtedly be seen as a black eye for MPAA CEO Dan Glickman.

An MPAA spokeswoman declined to comment on the firings but said that Daniel Mandil, an MPAA senior executive vice president, has been named general counsel and chief of content protection. He will oversee the association's combined legal and antipiracy efforts.

The shifts come as the sharing of movie files continues to creep toward mainstream adoption. In the past, digital copies of movies were too big to transmit easily on the Internet, but file-sharing technologies are improving, and sending large movie files is becoming easier.

Hollywood fears that the pirating of movies will become as common as the illicit sharing of music files. Studio insiders say they know that the answer isn't lawsuits but the hope is that Comcast, AT&T, Time Warner, and other bandwidth providers will help them thwart file sharing at the network level. So far, though, the music and film industries have failed to get the major ISPs very involved.

As for Glickman, the whispers from studio execs for over year is that the former U.S. secretary of agriculture (under former President Bill Clinton) hasn't been very effective since taking over at the MPAA in 2004. One source said that Glickman won't make it to the end of his contract, which runs out in September 2010.

The MPAA denied an impending early departure for the executive.

"This week Dan Glickman met with several of the MPAA member company studio executives, as he often does," said Angela Martinez, an MPAA spokeswoman. "During those meetings he reconfirmed his plans to continue in his role as chairman and CEO through the remainder of his contract. They welcomed that commitment and expressed their continued confidence in him."

Greg Sandoval covers media and digital entertainment for CNET News. He is a former reporter for The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. E-mail Greg, or follow him on Twitter at http://twitter.com/sandoCNET.
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by tyshockner October 16, 2009 11:31 AM PDT
Note to MPAA: Make a AFFORDABLE way for me to download or stream and I will happily be on board. I have all but quit buying physical media. I use only Netflix and Hulu for my entertainment. Physical media will die. The sooner you realize that the sooner you will make a profit.
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by redmarine October 16, 2009 1:53 PM PDT
Agreed, but still, it wouldn't hurt by not paying right?
by Mergatroid Mania October 16, 2009 2:08 PM PDT
I don't download movies at all, but exclusively purchase DVD and Blu-ray titles. Saying physical media will die is rather premature. There are still many many many years left before physical media will disappear.

Many of us (the smarter ones) will not use our credit cards over the internet. Having data available to us from the industry we know that the internet is still not a safe place for any personal information. If you don't believe it, just search through CNET for stories about credit card numbers being stolen. Google it, and you'll be amazed how many card numbers get stolen.

Physical media is also still the safest way to store movies. I still have a few movies from back in the VHS days, although I have now burned them all to DVD.

I'm glad you like down-loading and streaming movies. However, that does not apply to all of us.
by odubtaig October 16, 2009 3:50 PM PDT
Funnily enough I've paid for plenty online and never been ripped off but I've had to replace cards three times including after visiting a particular petrol station. If online fraud was so easy all those cash-machine gizmos and the like would disappear overnight.
by Lerianis3 October 16, 2009 6:54 PM PDT
tyshockner gets it right. Physical media is pretty much already dead, and the MPAA and RIAA are going to have to realize that and start offering online streaming stuff or downloaded stuff at the SAME QUALITY AS ON THE DISCS, or people are going to start downloading things 'illegally'.

Really, people forget that most movies and music are now available on cable TV.... if you have that, you can get most of the movies and music in question, so I see nothing about going online and 'illegally' downloading the thing in question in higher quality. We have ALREADY PAID for the movie through our cable TV or satellite TV subscriptions in almost all cases, so there is nothing wrong with going online and downloading it.
by pentest October 16, 2009 7:04 PM PDT
Mergatroid,

Paranoid much?

You do realize that giving your credit card to a brick and mortar business is even less safe don't you? Guess where all credit card numbers, including yours, is available, whether you buy things on the web or not?

Oh that is right, it is all online.
by Oner1 October 17, 2009 2:33 AM PDT
They do not want affordable, they want full gatekepper status & control back. Just look at what sony is doing with the PSP Go, this is their intended monopolistic strategy, block all ability to pass on media & dictate final prices.


lets not for get who is actually behind the MPAA - RIAA, these are the companies that need to be targeted and boycotted into changing their ways, purchase only 2nd hand media and do not purchase anything branded sony, why allow the fecktards to dictate Orwellian hardware DRM designed to take away rights not to stop piracy anymore.

Name and shame the companies as all the **AA trade group name is for is to protect the corporate globalists from bad press.


RIAA, CRIA, SOUNDEXCHANGE, BPI, IFPI, Ect:

# Sony BMG
# Warner Music Group
# Universal Music Group
# EMI

MPAA, MPA, FACT, AFACT, Ect:

# Sony Pictures
# Warner Bros. (Time Warner)
# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)
# The Walt Disney Company
# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)
# Paramount Pictures Viacom?(DreamWorks owners since February 2006)


=====================


If Sony payola (google it) wasn't bad enough to destroy indie competition you have this:

Is it justified to steal from thieves? READ ON.



RIAA Claims Ownership of All Artist Royalties For Internet Radio
http://slashdot.org/articles/07/04/29/0335224.shtml

"With the furor over the impending rate hike for Internet radio stations, wouldn't a good solution be for streaming internet stations to simply not play RIAA-affiliated labels' music and focus on independent artists? Sounds good, except that the RIAA's affiliate organization SoundExchange claims it has the right to collect royalties for any artist, no matter if they have signed with an RIAA label or not. 'SoundExchange (the RIAA) considers any digital performance of a song as falling under their compulsory license. If any artist records a song, SoundExchange has the right to collect royalties for its performance on Internet radio. Artists can offer to download their music for free, but they cannot offer their songs to Internet radio for free ... So how it works is that SoundExchange collects money through compulsory royalties from Webcasters and holds onto the money. If a label or artist wants their share of the money, they must become a member of SoundExchange and pay a fee to collect their royalties.'"

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/24/14132
by Pete Bardo October 16, 2009 11:55 AM PDT
Call it what you like. A "hog in a corral" is still a "pig in a poke"!
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by Sausagebiscuit October 16, 2009 12:14 PM PDT
yep. just trying to sugar coat what they are trying to do. Protect their failing business model(s).
by paulej October 16, 2009 1:18 PM PDT
Content protection is a better phrase. Piracy was the wrong word choice: it draws up images of cool figures and some excitement. What cool figures exist in the realm of "content protection"? :-)
by techman21 October 16, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
Content Protection = Usage Restriction
by 01Phyxius October 16, 2009 2:57 PM PDT
@techman
Hear Hear!
by karpenterskids October 16, 2009 5:32 PM PDT
I agree with techman.


And I can definitely see why the new phrase was chosen.
"Content protection" conveys a sense of urgency. Like the content is an endangered koala bear that needs...protection.
by ofmyony October 16, 2009 12:02 PM PDT
The motion picture industry is doing damage to itself, by adding all this copy protection and banners to it's movies. Consumers will flock to a less annoying and easier ways of enjoying their movies.

So follow the music industry into a self defeating war on piracy and punish your users, the motion picture industry will only suffer more and more as they lock down their products and frustrate it's users.

Learn from the music industry be open and allow users to enjoy the content they want. If you use protections make it invisible to the user, if users start to run into problems with DRM or annoying warnings they will find different avenues for enjoying movies and shows.
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by sebastien.kalonji October 16, 2009 12:08 PM PDT
Finally! I never understood why those organizations have such bad PR. The biggest mistake ive seen so far was the DRM debate. Everyone started to rally against everything that was called DRM while products that have DRM but give it another name like for example WGA get much less fuzz.
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by Renegade Knight October 16, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
DRM, WGA, doesn't matter, if it gets in the way of my enjoyment it's a PITA.
by Sausagebiscuit October 16, 2009 12:14 PM PDT
Anti-piracy leaves a bad taste and sounds harsher compared to 'content protection'.

Just like saying crippled vs disabled or physically challenged. Anything to make it sound nice. They aren't protecting anything but themselves. Should be called "Old business model protection".

I wonder what kind of fun techdirt.com will have for us on this! :)
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by Mergatroid Mania October 16, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
Semantics. I suppose those less sophisticated people would find it makes a difference, but a rose by any other name still stinks.
by Sausagebiscuit October 16, 2009 12:18 PM PDT
"Hollywood fears that the pirating of movies will become as common as the illicit sharing of music files. Studio insiders say they know that the answer isn't lawsuits but the hope is that Comcast, AT&T, Time Warner, and other bandwidth providers will help them thwart file sharing at the network level. So far, though, the music and film industries have failed to get the major ISPs very involved."

Right, the ISPs are not police. They provide a service and get paid for the service. The ISP's rely on customers to make money. They are not going to risk losing customers just because the music and movie business can't adapt to the times. Why is it the ISPs fault that the MPAA, etc, can't innovate? Why should the ISPs have to risk it's business so that the MPAA can make a profit?
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by tyshockner October 16, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
EXACTLY!!! Could not agree more.
by Been_there_Saw_it_before October 16, 2009 12:34 PM PDT
I am not sure if it has actually occured yet, but moving the ISPs to common carrier status would prohibit them from cooperating with the MPAA.
by Renegade Knight October 16, 2009 1:25 PM PDT
Some of them already are cooperating. They just don't advertise it. Amazing what fear does to a company.
by redmarine October 16, 2009 1:59 PM PDT
I don't know what is going on with the American ISPs but across Europe they're making themselves visible and resisting this censorship and so should the rest of the world's ISPs.

And btw, I agree as well. :P
by ronin_master_47 October 16, 2009 9:43 PM PDT
wasn't it charter or comcast that tried to limit peoples torrenting? they got in some big trouble over that as i recall
by Dalkorian October 19, 2009 9:18 AM PDT
@ronin_master_47, it was comcast (conjob) that was caught "limiting" bittorrent traffic. Of course, you have to realize the "limiting" effect that forging TCP_RST packets can cause to understand what they were really attempting - preventing any torrent traffic across their network. Why? If you can't torrent content, you're stuck with the crummy selection conjob offers to their victims.

Net neutrality isn't necessary, if and only if we separate content providers from service providers. Allowing cable companies and telcos to offer high speed internet was a bad idea to begin with.
by darkebinary October 16, 2009 12:28 PM PDT
The MPAA who publicly admits they don't care about the bad PR produced by their ridiculous lawsuits, sue 12 year old kids for $600,000 for one movie, and have been labeled as a cartel by several media outlets aren?t ?aggressive enough? according to the studios??? I?m just floored by how clueless Hollywood has become. I hope bankruptcy is in all their futures. Companies and groups like this don?t deserve to exist. Pirates are wrong, but being a bigger scoundrel than the actual ?criminals? is not going to fix their problem.
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by karpenterskids October 16, 2009 5:45 PM PDT
I thought $250,000 was the maximum per movie? :0

But yeah. What comes around goes around. Eventually they'll receive their dues, according to what they've done.
by ArsFragica October 16, 2009 12:29 PM PDT
screw these big companies and their greedy ways. free sharing forever! go p2p!
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by ballssalty October 16, 2009 12:38 PM PDT
"Hollywood fears that the pirating of movies will become as common as the illicit sharing of music files"

Um...too late? The pirating of movies has been as common as music for over 6 years now. As soon as DVDJon bypassed the content protection of DVD's it's been commonplace. When DivX used to be DivX ;-) it was commonplace.
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by Lerianis3 October 18, 2009 10:53 PM PDT
True. I will admit that I have 'illegal downloaded' a movie once, and it was easy and I didn't get caught.... they just renamed the file in question, zipped it up, and DONE!
The MPAA is going to have to realize that people are coming to the realization that music and movies (entertainment in general) should NOT be a business that insists on selling you numerous copies of the same thing over and over and over again.
by Vegaman_Dan October 16, 2009 12:40 PM PDT
I'm not sure how the movie/music industry can fail to recognize the simple fact that the people who pirate and download the content illegally woudln't have *paid* for the content anyways, even if the content wasn't available free online.

It's not a lost sale.

Yes, I could pirate movies off the internet if I wanted. But I don't because I like having the physical media and I buy most of my content on spur of the moment at the store based on what is on sale. Often I don't even go into a store with the intent of buying movies, but if there is a good deal on something, I might be tempted to get it.

Come to think of it, I may just hit Walmart up on the way home and see what's in the bargain bin. Never know what you'll find there. Of course, there's stuff there that I woudln't buy OR download free as it's not even worth the time to download (Can we say Spiderman2?).
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by Renegade Knight October 16, 2009 12:58 PM PDT
Good points.
by Sausagebiscuit October 16, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
Heh not to mention how they would love to kill your ability to resell movies after you watched them. I enjoy buying previously watched (not 'used' since that's not sugar coated like their name change) movies from friends or other retail outlets.

Agreed, for once Dan, good points. One thing I like to add, is that these 'cam' quality movies are often worse than a 2-3 year old VHS tape left to rot in you attic.
by Mergatroid Mania October 16, 2009 2:23 PM PDT
Agree 100% (except I liked Spiderman 2, but not Spiderman 3).

Every time we hear about how much money the (movie, record, software) companies are losing they include every copy made. The fact of the matter is a lot of those copies (the vast majority) would never have been purchases and do not represent lost sales.

I also would rather buy a movie on physical media to add to my 600+ collection than download it from the 'net through P2P (risking viruses, trojans vast amounts of wasted time etc) or legally because you get no media and have to use a digital file. You also don't get a nice case with artwork and whatever extras might be available.

Plus a lot of older "B" movies that I find lots of fun to watch are just not available from Internet sources. If I would exclude movies I would never purchase because they just aren't my cup of tea, what's left would likely show that I already have as many or more movies than most of these Internet sources.

However, I am not against ripping these movies I purchase so I can use them on whatever devices I choose. If these companies can stop people from exercising their right to fair use, then why should I feel guilty about ripping their DVDs? *** for tat.
by Mergatroid Mania October 16, 2009 2:32 PM PDT
I can't believe CNET censored the word t i t. I was just writing t i t for tat.

What about if I was referring to a t i t mouse? It would have come out as a ***mouse.

Silly people.
by odubtaig October 16, 2009 3:47 PM PDT
Bit like one forum software that turned saltwater into sal****er.
by gerrrg October 16, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
Funny that the MPAA would like to use a euphemism for their piracy crackdown while going aggressive on said crackdown...that's like naming your pit bull, Fluffy.
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by baconstang October 16, 2009 9:19 PM PDT
Here Fluffy. Where are you, where ARE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU?
by gumpman155 October 16, 2009 1:48 PM PDT
I hope the MPAA and RIAA and all of the entertainment industri complately claps. I don't like the greed and I pray that G-d distroys ALL of it. Then may be we as Americans can start over. Remake the entertainment industri.
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by Mergatroid Mania October 16, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
Yeah, good luck with that. The U.S. of A is built on extremist capitalism and greed, and is quickly teaching it to the rest of the world. It will never change.
by Lerianis3 October 18, 2009 10:54 PM PDT
Actually, Mania, that will change. There is a good 50% of people who are getting severely tired of being taken for a ride by capitalism, and are starting to lean towards having a socialistic system for necessities, and leaving capitalism for non-necessities.
by terminalblue October 16, 2009 3:04 PM PDT
war on terror?
CONTENT PROTECTION!!!!
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by appledogx--2008 October 16, 2009 3:51 PM PDT
Caca by any other name, is still, well... poop!
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by C.Schroeder October 16, 2009 4:19 PM PDT
Well, the term "content protection" is certainly more honest. The tech savvy have always understood that was the real purpose of DRM, i.e. it was there for *their* protection, not the consumer. Now, if only we could get them to understand that DRM causes more problems then it will ever solve. <sigh>

HD DVD at least had a contractual provision for a backup/replacement copy, even if they hadn't really figured out yet how to implement it. I'm certain the MPAA and studio executives are relieved that BD+ has no such "problem".

Go ahead, ignore the lessons of the computer games publishers in the '80s. Ignore the recent lessons of the music industry. Lets see how far it gets you...
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by Lerianis3 October 16, 2009 6:50 PM PDT
'Content protection' is still not acceptable and will not be tolerated by people like myself, who do not want to be treated like they are thieves at every single turn.

To the MPAA and RIAA.... STOP WITH THE FREAKING 'content protections'! They are doing nothing more but pissing off your customers, who are basically told when a disk gets damaged to 'go out and buy another one'. If you would offer CHEAP REPLACEMENT of DVD's and Blu-Ray's to people, people would be MUCH more willing to buy your products.
Also, start realizing that many people like myself want to put these things on a hard drive, ripped from the disk in a better compression format.... make that legal as long as we are not sharing them with someone outside of our family.
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by magicmaster October 16, 2009 7:03 PM PDT
Approved TV
Approved Player
Approved Cable
Approved Signal
Approved Content

Well, what's next? Approved audience?
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by pentest October 16, 2009 7:05 PM PDT
"Content protection" ensures its paying customers are treated like criminals. It does nothing to stop actual copyright infringement.
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by Lerianis3 October 18, 2009 10:55 PM PDT
Right in one.... that is the main reason why I have been REFUSING to buy anything with DRM in it recently until that DRM is cracked.... it treats paying customers as criminals or potential 'criminals'.
by Dalkorian October 19, 2009 9:27 AM PDT
Guilty, period. To prove your innocence only insults the MAFIAA's claims of guilt, if you weren't guilty you wouldn't have a problem.
;-)
by gggg sssss October 16, 2009 7:12 PM PDT
what was that expression - a pig with lipstick is still a pig?
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by baconstang October 16, 2009 9:20 PM PDT
Or a test animal.
by Dalkorian October 19, 2009 9:27 AM PDT
Or excrement.
by Forked_Tongue October 16, 2009 10:07 PM PDT
[quote]which included dropping the word "antipiracy" in favor of the term "content protection."[\quote]

Let's call it what it is, the studios are "Big Brother", the words they want us to use is "newspeak", and the business model they want to use is "1984". Sorry we don't want your draconian dictatorships to interfere with our entertainment, redesign and redevelop your business model and many more people will buy instead of "share" your products.

I'll advise everyone to become familiar with "blocklist" or "peerguardian", sooner or later they're going to try to nail us for converting our purchased media to our personal players or playing them on newer hardware.
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