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November 9, 2009 3:51 PM PST

Initial Motorola Droid sales look good

by Marguerite Reardon
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Early indications suggest that the Motorola Droid could be the breakout hit phone of the holiday season.

You might not have guessed it from the lack of long lines this past weekend, but analysts believe that Verizon is seeing strong sales of the Motorola Droid. The device went on sale on Friday across the country. And unlike other big launches for phones such as Apple's iPhone or even the Palm Pre, retailers had plenty of devices in stock, and customers didn't have to stand in long lines to get their phones.

Neither Verizon nor Motorola is providing exact sales figures, but David Samberg, a spokesman for Verizon, said sales were very strong over the weekend, with a steady stream of customers Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Store representatives in Manhattan confirmed this, with one sales associate telling me on Monday afternoon that there had been a steady stream of customers in the store all weekend and even through Monday.

Analysts also believe that the phone is selling well. Mark McKechnie, an analyst at Broadpoint AmTech, who covers Motorola, checked with a small sample of Verizon retailers around the country and said in a research note on Monday that he is encouraged by the anecdotal reports.

"While it is early, and the sample size is small, we are encouraged by our findings," he said.

McKechnie estimates that Verizon had about 200,000 phones in retail channels for the launch, with many stores in larger metropolitan markets, such as New York and Los Angeles, getting about 300 devices. Stores in cities such as San Francisco got more than a 100 devices, and retailers in smaller cities got between 25 and 40 devices each.

Locations were stocked well enough that there were no reports of any stores that were completely sold out. An employee at the Verizon Wireless store on West 34th Street in New York said his store had gotten about 500 Motorola Droids and HTC Android Eris phones for Friday. The store didn't sell out of either phone, but much of its stock is now gone.

That said, the store employee, who didn't want his name used, said his store did sell out of the $29.99 Droid docking station, which charges the device. As of Monday, the company still hadn't restocked its supply of that accessory.

McKechnie reported in his research note that the Droid outsold the HTC Eris, which also went on sale Friday. And checks with Verizon stores in Manhattan back up this claim. While there were plenty of customers looking at the HTC Android Eris in the Verizon stores I visited Monday afternoon, most people said they planned to buy the Droid. The main reasons were the device's higher-resolution screen, better camera, faster processor, and latest Android software.

Still, plenty of customers noted that they preferred the look of the HTC Eris over that of the Droid.

Verizon's marketing may also be paying off. Verizon is spending more money on the Droid advertising campaign than it has on any other device launch. At least one customer at the West 34th Street said Verizon's advertisements had convinced him to get the Droid instead of Apple's iPhone, which runs on AT&T's network.

"I was considering the iPhone," said Henry Goodison of the Bronx borough. "But I saw a commercial about AT&T's 3G coverage. It said, 'Here is AT&T's 3G coverage, and here is ours.' And I thought it would be better to have Verizon, if I travel to another state, where AT&T doesn't have 3G coverage."

AT&T is actually suing Verizon Wireless over this commercial, asserting that Verizon's advertisement is misleading consumers. Verizon dismisses this claim as untrue.

Marguerite Reardon has been a CNET News reporter since 2004, covering cell phone services, broadband, citywide Wi-Fi, the Net neutrality debate, as well as the ongoing consolidation of the phone companies. E-mail Maggie.
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by The_happy_switcher November 9, 2009 4:03 PM PST
I guess if you don't mind playing in the minor leagues it's a good choice.
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by dylerl November 9, 2009 4:14 PM PST
What? So how does this make sense. The iPhone 3gs sold 1 millions handsets in the first weekend. Verizon had 200,000 droids and they did not sell out at any store? That would seem like pretty small numbers compared to the iPhone, so for the way that Verizon was advertising this thing comparing it to the iPhone these numbers seem really small to me. This is a horrible looking device and when I was at Best Buy to buy my new TV I picked it up, it feels horrible, no way I would ever give up my iPhone for this draconian piece of hardware sold by a draconian provider!!! If the iPhone had these numbers when it came out then CNET would be saying that they were dismal numbers!!! Come on why are you so biased against AT&T and Apple at CNET? They are the two innovators here, without them you would not have this piece of crap you call the droid!!!! Just wait till the new iPhone and the millions it sells on the first weekend. The Droid will be an afterthought in a few months!!! There is no innovation here at all!!!
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by gerrrg November 9, 2009 6:01 PM PST
Oh the fanboyz.

Besides 3Gs, the iPhone does not natively support video-recording. You don't have native turn-by-turn navigation, nor do you have the ability to do flash photography. You don't have GV. You don't have a physical keyboard. You can't even run concurrent apps.
by cbscowards November 9, 2009 6:09 PM PST
Actually, the Droid does has some advantages over the iPhone -- the navigation and it's integration with Google Maps and web search is a leap beyond what the iPhone delivers out of the box, and multitasking makes apps like Locale possible.

Why are you so threatened by it? Did your iPhone stop working? No, of course not. But now there's some pressure for Apple to improve the iPhone for its next iteration. See how competition works? It's good for everyone.

As for Cnet being biased against Apple, what stories are you reading? There is a positive story for Apple several times every week.

As for the Droid being an afterthought, isn't that what the Windows fanboys keep saying about the Mac. Did it happen? No, because the Mac is a great product. I think Android is still a bit of a work in progress, but it's not going to disappear any time soon. At the speed that Google is moving, it will continue to evolve and improve rapidly.
by atish505 November 9, 2009 6:24 PM PST
LOL .. AT & T an innovator.
They r the biggest stifler of innovation.
Verizon rocks.
by DasScooter November 9, 2009 6:44 PM PST
I don't remember Verizon or At&t making anything. They are service providers. The innovators being argued about are Apple and Motorola, and for software Apple and Google
by DasScooter November 9, 2009 6:57 PM PST
To correct my Previous statement Apple portable device hardware is made by Samsung and Toshiba
by montex66 November 9, 2009 11:10 PM PST
@gerrg

I'm a total fan boy and I'm typing this on my new MacBook Air (ha-ha, I bet you can't afford one). Anyway, all those features you described in the Droid were made available in the Palm Pre. How is that Palm Pre doing by comparison? Well, I'll tell you. Not well. Maybe not even well enough to save the company. This Verizon Droid is getting lots of press, but six months from now it will be as irrelevant as the Pre.
by bdvirgin November 9, 2009 11:48 PM PST
"Come on why are you so biased against AT&T and Apple at CNET? They are the two innovators here, without them you would not have this piece of crap you call the droid!!!!"

Motorola invented the cell phone in 1973. Without them, you would not have your crapple ?idon?t? phone. I guess Motorola is the true innovator.
by Random_Walk November 10, 2009 7:08 AM PST
"Motorola invented the cell phone in 1973."

...and aside from the Razr, it appears that the design hasn't changed all that much w/ them...
by abcd9009 November 10, 2009 7:57 AM PST
@dylerl

AT&T an innovator... maybe you might have a point. However, AT&T's innovation has NOTHING to do with cell phone. Most if not all of AT&T's innovation predates cell phones. When it comes to cell phones it took them forever just to enable a basic MMS service for the iPhone and you call them an innovator.

To me, NONE of the US cell phone carriers are innovators (the keyword here is "cell phone carriers"). If it wasn't for the iPhone Americans would never have realized the power of a smart phone because it was so locked down by the carriers previously unlike in EU or Asia where anyone can buy any phone and use on any network anywhere in the world. Now that's called free and open market. So yes in US the iPhone is innovative but for the rest of the world, it's just another phone because there is nothing new on the iPhone which you couldn't do previously. Even before the iPhone you could buy or sell software for the cell phones. You just couldn't get everything in one place. And the touchscreen was there you just had to use the stylus. The App store or the touch screen are NOT innovation, they are just clever designing and marketing and that's what Apple does best - Getting rid of the stylus and moving all Apps in a single location (App Store).

Don't get me wrong, just innovation is not enough for a product to sell. What sells the product or even makes a consumer think before considering any other product is design and marketing which is where Apple excels.

It doesn't matter which phone you get... the iPhone or the Droid, at the end the consumers WILL ALWAYS LOSE thanks to the wonderful US carriers because all they (the carriers) want is to lock you in for a 2 yr contract.
The reason why I say the consumers lose is because you don't really have a choice between the iPhone and the Droid. What you are choosing is between iPhone/AT&T and Droid/Verizon. In an open market the choice would be between iPhone and Droid regardless of which carrier you choose. Welcome to America where the only people who win are the shareholders and corporate moguls.

The only way to win is to get a stake in those companies. I own Apple, Google, and Verizon stocks. AT&T and Motorola... don't really care.
by Lennron November 10, 2009 9:28 AM PST
Wow, this got ugly fast! They're not saying that the Droid has taken the #1 spot away from the iPhone, they're just saying that it's selling well. Some people are already calling it a flop and this article is pretty much just saying not to write it off as a failure. If this is all about Apple, OSX still only holds around 5% of the market share but Apple fanboys don't want to write it off as a failure. Give Droid a chance at a fair piece of the market.
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by eltoro2827 November 9, 2009 4:16 PM PST
I agree with the_happy_switcher. Of course there will be great sales of this phone, verizon has nothing else to offer. Have you seen their choices in phones. This thing called the "droid" is the closest thing verizon offers that is a step above the "storm" but is still miles behind the iphone.

People will settle for a fake attempt of a phone that doesnt even come close to competing with the iphone just to say "its like an iphone."

I dont trust google and never will....ill stick with the iphone and most likely move to verizon if they offer it next year. I could care less if at&t and verizon go at it regarding coverage......in the end I want my precious iphone on a reliable network...sorry to say at&t is ok..not great.
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by dylerl November 9, 2009 4:27 PM PST
I don't agree that Verizon has better coverage they supposedly have a bigger 3G map but that 3G network is not much faster than AT&T's 2.5 G network so I dont know about this. You also cannot talk and use data at the same time on Verizon's network. I think Verizon's network is older and crappier, there are a lot of features you should think about before you switch!!! Also if Verizon keeps up this advertising campaign they may never have the iPhone, and then AT&T, Sprint, and T-mobile will have it leaving Verizon (or should I say Vodaphone) out in the dust!!!
by gerrrg November 9, 2009 6:02 PM PST
@dylerl

Are you kidding? The map shown on Verizon's ads are directly FROM AT&T's own website.
by eltoro2827 November 9, 2009 7:21 PM PST
What's he's trying to say is verizons vast red blotches on their 3g network dont allow for talk time and web/ text use at the same time like u can on AT&T 's 3g map. I don't travel much so 3g reception in l.a is about 90% good.
by alskiontheweb November 10, 2009 5:05 AM PST
I wonder if any of these Apple fan boys even own an iPhone. I own one and I can't stand it. It's almost always dead battery is annoying. It's little messages about "no sim card installed" are even more annoying. Worse, I have to reboot it more than any Windows Mobile phone I ever owned, at least once a week...mostly because it fails to find AT+T. Magically, my service reappears after the reboot even though I didn't move more than 5 feet.

So, in short, Verizons ads are accurate. The 3G AT+T coverage stinks, the apps store doesn't allow you to download on Edge, and the phone end of it, which is what it's primary function is supposed to be, just plain stinks.

Oh yeah, and that fine Safari browser...do you want to know how many times a week that thing crashes on my as well?
by gdw1818 November 10, 2009 5:41 AM PST
While not a huge AT&T fan, I've never had any problems with their coverage. I've also never experienced even one of the problems you mention about the iPhone.
by lkrupp November 9, 2009 4:32 PM PST
Arguing about which is the better phone is useless. Let's just sit back and watch the show. There's enough intrigue to go around for everybody. But it does look like a lot of people are rooting for the Droid to kill the iPhone. That part I don't get.
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by kelmon November 10, 2009 4:18 AM PST
Indeed, this is something that I have never understood myself. For some odd reason, no matter what Apple produces there is always a group of people who want to see it fail for no reason other than it came from Apple. What Apple did to these people escapes me.
by gdw1818 November 10, 2009 5:42 AM PST
I feel the same way Kelmon.
by Lennron November 10, 2009 9:32 AM PST
It's not just Apple, it's all companies. There are a lot of people out there that want to see all Microsoft and/or Google products fail before they even launch. It's just how people are. They cheer for what they like and don't give others a chance. Look at politics. If Satan was running as either a Democrat or Republican for any office, there would be a decent chunk of the population that would vote for him simply because of the party he's representing.
by November 9, 2009 4:33 PM PST
To all the Apple fanboys in this forum:

1) Simma down nah
2) The 1 million iPhones in one weekend, though impressive, is for 21 countries. The Droid is just for the US.
3) The Droid is not trying to be like the iPhone. It's doing things (many things) that the iPhone doesn't. Hence, the whole ad campaign premise.

I have been playing with my Droid phone all weekend and I have to say that it's really really awesome, and probably the best phone I've ever owned. And I'm speaking from a completely unbiased place, as I'm also an iPhone developer.

The Droid suits my needs where the iPhone fails. It works for me, and no Apple fanboy can take that away from me or any other person that enjoys their new Droid phone, regardless of sales figures.
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by dylerl November 9, 2009 4:41 PM PST
What does it do supposedly the the iPhone doesn't? Now that the camera has come out to be not that great and not much better than the iPhone. The Droid does not have hardware encryption, does not have all the apps, you can only install 256 mb of apps, small memory amounts, you have to use SD cards, no Itunes, no video editing, no active sync profiles, no Enterprise profiles, no enterprise support whatsoever . I could go on forever, so what is it? The iPhone does way more than the droid could dream of doing, and it will do more soon with the new version. So have fun with you ugly droid that really cannot do much except I guess fall out of a fighter jet!!!
by jhk76 November 9, 2009 4:54 PM PST
Based on the quote below, iPhone 3G sold 400k in its first weekend of sales, which is still pretty impressive.

"Munster now estimates that 400,000 iPhones were sold in the United States, 250,000 in the United Kingdom and an average of 18,000 each in the other 19 countries"

(http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/07/14/apple-sells-425000-iphone-3gs-in-three-days/)
by dylerl November 9, 2009 5:03 PM PST
Ahh that was the iPhone 3g not the 3gs, your article is from 2008!!!
by dylerl November 9, 2009 5:06 PM PST
Nope the 3G went to 21 countries the first weekend, the 3GS went to only 8 countries the first weekend and still sold 1 million in the first weekend!!!

http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-phones/news/2009/06/22/Apple---iPhone-3G-S-Sells-One-Million-Units-In-3-Days/p1
by PineappleUnderTheSea November 9, 2009 5:29 PM PST
I'm amazed how people who always want to prove a point say something like, "I'm not biased, also also own / develop for the other device..."

Yeah, right. You probably don't even own either phone. How do I know this? Well if you really are an iPhone developer, then there's no way you're making enough money to afford these phones! Zing!!! High five, anyone?
by notalilo November 9, 2009 6:11 PM PST
Q: What does it do supposedly the the iPhone doesn't?
- it does Google navigation
- it does Google voice
- it does flash
- it tethers
Statement: The Droid does not have all the apps
Can you prove this? You don't believe that 100,000 applications for iPhone are all unique, right?
Statement: you can only install 256 mb of apps
That's true and that might be more that you can do with iPhone. If the applications are designed properly (and why should not they?) and use SD card, with multiple SD cards one can install more content-heavy applications in Droid than on iPhone. Not to mention that Droid provides much more memory for your music and videos.
by DasScooter November 9, 2009 6:40 PM PST
" by notalilo November 9, 2009 6:11 PM PST
Q: What does it do supposedly the the iPhone doesn't?
- it tethers"
If I'm correct Verizon stated Tethering is coming meaning its not here yet.
by notalilo November 9, 2009 7:05 PM PST
The tetheriing is there and there is already a price for it :-)
by DasScooter November 9, 2009 7:38 PM PST
Really do you have tethering?

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/11/tethering-droid/

"Verizon Wireless is set to inaugurate tethering on the newly released Motorola Droid phone next year ? at a price. Most consumers will have to pay an additional $30 a month to use the feature.

?Tethering will not be available at launch, but it is scheduled,? says Brenda Raney, spokesperson for Verizon Wireless."

Granted At&t has yet to offer tethering
by DasScooter November 9, 2009 7:53 PM PST
Correction to my previous comment At&t has yet to offer tethering with the iPhone series as I don't know the status of tethering with any other devices.
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by cnote1287 November 9, 2009 4:47 PM PST
there should not just be "one phone....to rule them all" there should be OPTIONS. options is a win for consumers, and it spurs innovation. to all the apple fanboys, sure the iphones a great phone, but its not the ONLY phone. it just set the bar for an emerging market. sit down and accept that.
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by dylerl November 9, 2009 4:58 PM PST
Well it's the only phone for me and the other tens of millions of people out there!!!! I agree with options thats fine I just don't like lies and misleading consumers about facts!!! It makes me mad, this is America not Nazi Germany and maybe because vodaphone owns Verizon they act more like Nazi's but let's get the facts straight, the droid does not nearly do everything the iPhone does and Verizon's network is not as great as they say they are major technical hurdles they are dealing with. Part of me wishes that all Verizon customers jumped on the droid so Verizon network could crumble under the data hurt they would be in just like AT&T was in with the iPhone. If Verizon sold the same amount of droids that ATT sold iPhones there network would crumble instantly and they would have the same issues.
by mistergsf--2008 November 9, 2009 4:49 PM PST
I love my iPhone 3GS and although I understand the dissatisfaction with AT&T's coverage, I've had no problem with it here in San Francisco. That being said, I love new "gadgets" and competition from Motorola/Verizon is all good. I haven't had a chance to look at this phone yet but I've been reading all I can before I drop by a Verizon store tonight to check it out. One disappointing thing I've just read is this:

"The Droid ships with a 512 MB ROM which contains only 256 MB available for app storage. Google does not support installing apps to the SD card (and likely never will), so developers are limited in what they can create." --- from androidandme.com

After hearing all of these commercials touting the Droid and all of the things it "does" rather than the "iDon't's" of the iPhone, I'm shocked that they would not disclose this very important detail. Sorta dampens my excitement for this new phone. What do you guys think?
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by generalkazar November 9, 2009 5:03 PM PST
The 256MB is for the application only. The application can install the data files to the SD card. Most apps are less then 1MB in actual size (compiled code) and images, videos, sounds, etc... that can be installed to the SD card.
by dylerl November 9, 2009 5:03 PM PST
I agree this limitation is pathetic!!!
by dylerl November 9, 2009 5:12 PM PST
It was not AT&T's coverage that was the issue, their coverage is fine and works well. It was the amount of iPhones added to the network in a very short amount of time and the data loads each of those iPhones used cause a major bottleneck on their network especially in cities which they have fixed most of and are fixing the rest now. This also would happen to Verizon if they added that many iPhones onto their network, it would happen to any carrier!!! This is what makes me mad is that they make all these claims but all the claims are misleading to consumers and the people who do not understand how networks work just think that this certain network has lousy coverage, I just want people to say the truth.
by dylerl November 9, 2009 5:14 PM PST
No you have to root/jailbreak your Android phone for this to do this the apps all are limited to the 256 mb.
by generalkazar November 9, 2009 5:18 PM PST
Do you own an android phone? I have the droid, trust me, apps can install data to the SD card, I have some that have already done it. You don't need to root it. It does it by default.
by generalkazar November 9, 2009 5:24 PM PST
Your information is inaccurate. You complain that Verizon misleads people and yet you do it in the same thread. The root/jailbreak that you are talking about lets you mount the SD card onto the same file system as the onboard memory allowing you to install apps to the entire 16GB. But where you are misleading people is that on a normal droid, the apps have to go to the 256Mb, but not the entire app has to reside on the 256Mb. Anything that doesn't execute can be placed on the SD card and used by the app. So if a developer creates a video game for android that has 400Mb of game resources, they can be installed on the SD card and accessed by the app running on the 256Mb (most likely is 2Mb or less).
by cbscowards November 9, 2009 6:15 PM PST
@dyler1: Thnk about it: If the apps couldn't use the SD card, why would you need an SD card at all? Seems kind of obvious doesn't it?
by notalilo November 9, 2009 6:20 PM PST
"I've had no problem with it here in San Francisco" That's an interesting statement. It is a well known fact that AT&T service in Bay area is second worst only to New York. Do use your iPhone for anything but music listening?
by DasScooter November 9, 2009 6:36 PM PST
Do you have an iPhone in the San Fransisco bay area, if not then your comment is invalid as you wouldn't know about how well anything works for yourself.
by notalilo November 9, 2009 6:55 PM PST
Das Scooter said: "Do you have an iPhone in the San Fransisco bay area,.."

I do not. I did not claim I did. I said it was a well known fact which it is. Try Google search for "iphone bay area signal drop". The search returns more than 50,000 results. Here is one account from Engadget: "@Giroro - Wrong, my phone drops around 30% too and I live in the Bay Area. The iPhone is for #$%^ as a phone, and AT&T's network is just as bad."

Then again, for some people 30% dropped calls might be acceptable as long as they have an opportunity to use their fetish gadget :-)
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by LeeSmith2 November 9, 2009 5:06 PM PST
If I absolutely, positively HAD to be on Verizon's network, I'd choose the Droid over a Pre or a Blackberry. But since I have the choice, I left Verizon's superior network so I could have the iPhone and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Now, give me an iPhone on Verizon and that would be the best of both worlds!
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by dylerl November 9, 2009 5:15 PM PST
I dont see why anyone would have to be on Verizon's network. You have a choice!!
by notalilo November 9, 2009 6:15 PM PST
I do not see why anyone would have to have an iPhone. You have a choice!!
by DasScooter November 9, 2009 6:34 PM PST
@notalilo "I do not see why anyone would have to have an iPhone. You have a choice!!" Because they want a good phone!!!
by notalilo November 9, 2009 6:59 PM PST
DasScooter said: "Because they want a good phone!!!"

That's exactly my point. Some people just want a good phone. Others want a good phone with a good service (i.e. Verizon).
by JayMonster November 10, 2009 9:26 AM PST
Actually, the funny part is, that the iPhone for all its glory of being an MP3 "phone", an app "phone", an evetually will be able to MMS "phone"... it is actually a crappy *PHONE* It does the music well, the apps run well, but the call quality is lousy.

So, now you have a lousy phone, on a lousy network (what good is all that "High Speed" part of the network for those that aren't in those tiny little areas?)... but it has a good tunes library. Good for you. I have work to get done, and I need my phone to work well... you know.... as a phone!
by anotherprogrammer November 9, 2009 5:22 PM PST
as the previous poster said 'simmer down there ...'

This is kind of like an 'my kid starting talking at 4 months', 'oh yeah? well my kid started doing calculus at 3 months' argument.

Both the droid and the iphone are very capable phones. The droid has some very nice features -- the display is beautiful with very high resolution, the video playback is very nice, it multitasks third party apps, the voice navigation included with google maps is really nice, the voice search works well, and although alot of people (rightly so) would like to have something like itunes for music syncing, I personally like simply dragging whatever mp3's I have onto the device. It only took a minute or so to copy my favorite songs from my pc onto the droid (no installation, no downloading .. just simple file copying). Plus it's a fun phone to play with (at least that's my opinion).

Also just to clarify the droid does only have 256 mb for apps but that's executable code. If an app has alot of data, such as a game, then it can store the data on the included 16gb SD card. 256 mb is alot for just code. And it does work with Exchange.
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by mistergsf--2008 November 9, 2009 6:04 PM PST
"Also just to clarify the droid does only have 256 mb for apps but that's executable code. If an app has alot of data, such as a game, then it can store the data on the included 16gb SD card. 256 mb is alot for just code. And it does work with Exchange."

I'm still confused about this. I'm not a programmer or an Android specialist but there seems to be a lot of debate about this. I've been reading all the back and forth on this issue here and I don't know what is correct:

http://androidandme.com/2009/10/news/google-fails-to-address-app-storage-issue-with-droid-and-android-2-0/
by November 9, 2009 6:05 PM PST
What's really sad is that the Apple fanboys for some reason feel threatened or something. So they start spouting sales statistics and incorrect facts about the Droid phone.

You guys enjoy the iPhone, that's great. I love my Droid phone too. What exactly would make you fanboys happy?
by generalkazar November 9, 2009 6:14 PM PST
Take a game that is 100Mb as the article you linked to shows. For argument sake lets say that 98Mb of that space is taken up by the graphics and sounds and only 2Mb is the actual game code. The app will install as a 2Mb file and download the other 98Mb to the SD card. The restriction Android has is the executable code must be on the 256Mb of internal memory. If the game copies code to the SD card, Android won't execute it.

I haven't developed anything for android yet so I don't know what is involved in doing this, but I hope the market place natively supports this. I know when I downloaded the Doom game, it downloaded the resource files when I launched the app, not when the app was installed.
by gadgetshare November 9, 2009 5:42 PM PST
Wow a lot of people on CNET are such apple fanboys it's sad. The Droid is a great phone, if you haven't used it yet then your anti comments against the Droid are pointless since you haven't had first hand experience with the Droid its self. Sure the iPhone is great, but really how great? It's getting pretty old now (3rd Gen, and it's still missing a lot of things). People should give the Droid a chance before bashing it. God Apple is milking you apple fanboys for all of your money.

iPhone is a amazing phone, but way OVERRATED!!!
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by November 9, 2009 6:01 PM PST
Agreed. I'm willing to bet most, if not all of the Apple fanboys in this thread have never touched the Droid phone, and are just basing their opinions from stuff they read in other Apple forums.
by cbscowards November 9, 2009 6:21 PM PST
The iPhone isn't overrated -- it has been setting the bar for the past few years, and despite some weaknesses, it is an amazing device.

But I agree it is sad how many Apple fanbois, who are constantly under the "Apple is irrelevant and has an insignificant market share" arguments from the MS fanbois, are so quick to jump on the "all competition must die!" bandwagon when a competing product debuts.

(Typed on my MBP, which is charging my Droid)
by haroun1946 November 9, 2009 6:32 PM PST
A comment from one that has found no use for mobile phones and such, except...
Inside all the noise regarding the mobile flavor of the month, I've found something more interesting than ANY sports championship and vastly more profitable. Earlier this year I bought Apple for $84. As of today, it has paid over $100,000. Palm Pre paid $5000, sold to buy Motorola. So far, Motorola has only pain pennies on the dollar. Let's see what six months will bring. Keep talking people. I've found my dream job in this bear economy. Your rants are paying my bills.
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by alt117 November 9, 2009 7:29 PM PST
the apple FUD patrol is out in force. part of their half a billion ad budget, I guess.

Everything the iPhone does that Android can't is because of the large amount of apps. It's a good bet that Android can catch up there rather quickly.

But the things Android does that iPhone can't are in the OS. Background notifications, true multitasking, easily transfer data or sync to multiple computers or your music library through drag and drop or cool software like salling sync ( www.salling.com ), instead of being tied to a single computer via iTunes, the ability to get apps from multiple sources without jailbreaking.

The Droid is not an iPhone killer, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that iPhone is not an Android killer either. And that's bad news for WinMo and Palm.
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by sandor_f November 10, 2009 1:45 PM PST
And if we keep looking at the situation logically, this is where Apple has truly changed the cell phone game - they are *still offering software upgrades for the original iPhone. OS shortfalls are really only detrimental in the short run, as Apple has offered quite a bit of increased usability with OS 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1 etc -and none of the updates locked out older hardware.

Yes, Android v. iPhone OS is **great** for the consumer - both knock Palm and MS out of the picture, and we know that the competitive nature of both Apple and Google will cause a continuation of great updates from both teams. Apple came in and shook the status quo, and now Google will push Apple towards deeper development.

While many questions remain, Google and Apple are still two companies that i trust quite a bit in terms of handing them my personal data - as mainstream as both have become (Apple slower, over the past 25 years i have been using Macintosh), i think they both still greatly respect their customers.
by parthapop November 9, 2009 9:30 PM PST
Some comments when comparing iPhone sales vs Droid sales.

iPhone has sold primarly through the AT&T/Apple stores whereas Droid sold in Verizon/Bestbuy. So the above article talks only about the Verizon stores sales. As mentioned above, iPhone sold in multiple countries whereas Droid was only in the US.

Droid is sold by Verizon which also had Storm 2 and HTC Eris that released very closely. so the customers had more choice, based on their preference whereas in AT&T stores, its pretty much iPhone alone had the crown.

As with any phone(including the iPhone), Droid has its own advantages and disadvantages. I believe these comparisons are just good for marketing buzz, but at the end of the day, what the phone does for you(that you care about) is the most important thing and I believe Droid has delivered that.
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by broonsbain November 9, 2009 10:29 PM PST
I do love the way some of the misled Apple users are desperate to discredit this phone (looking @ you dylerl). Your phone will still work even if Verizon and Google produce something kick ass. And it IS kick ass. After a good weekend of moving into this device, all i can say is WOW. The Nav functionality alone makes this phone a standout from its competition. The amazing rez on the screen doesent hurt either. Multiple apps open, multiple mail accounts (it does enterprise just fine). There is a lot of BS coming from the apple camp about this one. If your considering it - do yourself a favor and read as many reviews as possible.
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by sharmajunior November 10, 2009 7:19 AM PST
I think what they mean to say is, since the companies didn't choose to keep less stock, customers didn't have to stand in line. Unlike Apple and Palm who played the"We are sold out" trick right of the book to make it seem like they sold a lot [in the beginning that is].
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by Captain Bebops November 10, 2009 9:55 AM PST
And unlike the iPhone it doesn't cost you a dime to put your own software on an Android phone. You just download the SDK and start developing. Turn the developer features on and hook up the USB cable and you can debug your app on the phone. I've been developing Android software since last spring but until Friday I didn't have an actual phone (seems to have been true of many of the developers). I bought the Eris because I really don't use phones that much and I wanted something smaller. It's a great phone and I've been using more features on it than I had imagined including listening to talk radio while on my walk from a host that is live at that time but not on the local station that carries him.

And you can develop for Android on Linux, Windows and yes even a Mac.
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by mahurshi November 10, 2009 10:53 AM PST
I think Droid would be a good choice for people who haven't used an iPhone before and for those that prefer Verizon to AT&T. The pinch zoom feature on the iPhone too addictive to let go of :-)
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by draystl November 10, 2009 1:05 PM PST
100,000 is not robust for a phone with a huge marketing budget & massive hype, especially one that?s supposed to compete with the iPhone.

Also, I'm interested to here the number of returns on this phone vs. the iPhone, if such information becomes available.

Motorola?s Droid Sales ?Troubling,? Analyst Says
http://www.thestreet.com/print/story/10624624.html

NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- It turns out "a lot" is about 100,000 Motorola
Droid phones sold on the first weekend.

Broadpoint AmTech analyst Mark McKechnie estimates that Verizon
sold more than half of the 200,000 Droid phones Motorola supplied to
its stores. All Verizon would say Monday is that it sold "a
lot."

But 100,000 is not a lot, especially for a device that is crucial to the
revival of a fallen Motorola. Nor is 100,000 a lot for Verizon, the No.1
telco hoping to hold that position by stopping customers from
defecting to AT&T for the Apple iPhone.

"This puts the Droid debut in the same category as the Palm Pre, and
that's a little troubling," says Nielsen wireless analyst
Roger Entner.

One has to think that Plan A for Verizon was to have a blockbuster
Droid and an ongoing partnership with Google that
would rival the winning combination of AT&T and Apple.

Plan B will now almost definitely include the iPhone.

"Verizon wants the iPhone and they will get the iPhone, but it certainly
strengthens your negotiation hand if you have a viable alternative,"
says Entner.

AT&T's exclusive iPhone sales agreement with Apple is set to expire
next year and Verizon is widely expected to add the iconic phone to its
lineup.

These Aren't the Droids Verizon Was Looking For

Motorola's deft hand at design is showcased in the slim phone with a
big brilliant touchscreen. But overall, using the phone over the past two
weeks has been a mixed experience.
Motorola Droid.

The big plusses like an excellent Web browser, voice search and Google
Navigation are offset by major minuses like a poor camera, finicky
touchscreen and a persistent Exchange email service glitch.

This marked up scorecard isn't the wholehearted approval Droid needs
from reviewers to give consumers a green light. Instead, consumers
may be waiting for more info or different phones rather than commit to
the Droid for the next two years.

Motorola needs to sell at least one million Droids this year to clear the
low bar set by analysts. With about 100,000 sold so far, and eight
weeks to go, the bar might not be low enough.

Sluggish Droid sales weigh on Motorola shares, which were down 1% to
$8.88 in midday trading Tuesday.

-- Written by Scott Moritz in New York
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by sandor_f November 10, 2009 1:35 PM PST
I would just say that Verizon is probably thanking the stars they *didn't* get the iPhone @ launch. If they had, i believe they would be in the same boat as ATT - struggling to keep up with bandwidth demand.

As it sits, Verizon will probably see a lot of ATT customers come 2010 if the iPhone is actually released from ATT grasps. And being that Verizon has had a couple years to build up their network, it will probably withstand a pretty large number of ex-ATT iPhone customers.
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by jimpjr November 16, 2009 5:17 AM PST
I personally owned the 3G and bought the 3GS in July and just sold my 3GS and jumped to the Droid, honestly the droid is a better device the iPhone is too iPod-like and seems like a toy(no offense to iphone lovers). iPhone is good tho just the way of the future is Android and Apple is going to lose their Top Spot soon!! sorry Apple/iPhone.
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