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October 30, 2009 4:00 AM PDT

Can the Droid save Motorola?

by Marguerite Reardon
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Could Motorola's new smartphone, the Droid, be the company's next Razr a la 2010?

Judging from the hype surrounding the new smartphone, which is the first device to use the Google Android 2.0 operating system, there is a good chance the Droid could be the breakthrough device that helps Motorola rise from the ashes. But it will likely take more than a single phone to get Motorola back in the game after losing market share for nearly three years, especially as competition in the handset market intensifies.

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Gadget bloggers and device reviewers, such as our own Bonnie Cha, have been impressed with the new Droid, which was announced on Wednesday. But Motorola's mobile devices CEO Sanjay Jha said that the Droid is just the beginning. The company plans to introduce no fewer than 20 devices using the Google Android operating system in 2010, he said during the Droid launch event in New York on Wednesday.

The Droid and the Cliq, which is being sold on T-Mobile USA's network, are the first two Motorola Android phones to hit the market. But Jha said that the Google Android operating system will not only be used in high-end devices like the Droid, but it will also be used to power less expensive phones, creating a new tier of smartphone that will eventually replace the basic feature phone category.

"With these products we've taken the first step in positioning ourselves for the mobile Internet and smartphone market," Jha said during the company's third-quarter earnings conference call Thursday. "And in 2010, there will be a variety of new devices as we expand the portfolio across various tiers. We will continue to shift the mix of products to respond to the growing smartphone opportunity."

Motorola, the iconic American company that had practically invented the cell phone market, has struggled for several years now. After the runaway success of the ultra-thin Motorola Razr in 2004, the company has been unable to come up with a hit phone.

As the company's market share slipped lower and financial losses mounted, shareholders ousted then CEO Ed Zander. And Jha, an engineer who had worked his way up the ranks at mobile chipmaker Qualcomm, was brought on board to turn the business around. In addition to cutting costs, he quickly worked to get Motorola's product development teams back on track. He recently told The New York Times that the situation at Motorola was much worse than he had expected when he took the job.

He said when he arrived at Motorola he found a company with "a dysfunctional management culture" that simply didn't understand that consumer preferences had shifted. Customers no longer wanted just a phone for making phone calls. Instead, they wanted a device that could also access the Internet, give them directions, and provide text-based communications.

The Droid

The Motorola Droid

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Early on Jha scrapped the company's lineup of unprofitable phones that were using dead-end technology. In an attempt to streamline development and refocus the company's attention on creating new, cool devices, he concentrated the company's efforts almost exclusively on building phones using the Google Android operating system.

About a year after announcing this new strategy, the company introduced the Cliq and the Droid. In general, the Cliq has gotten a good reception from reviewers, but there seems to be much more enthusiasm around the Droid, a touch-screen device that some say rivals Apple's iPhone.

Some of the impressive features include Google-powered voice-activated search, a 550MHz processor, and a 3.7-inch with 480x854-pixel resolution. But what is likely to make the device a true competitor to the iPhone is the fact that it is exclusively available on the Verizon Wireless network. Verizon is the largest wireless operator in the U.S. and it has the largest coverage footprint. The company has also gotten high marks for its reliable network. And its customers are among the most loyal in the industry.

Verizon has been looking for an iPhone-killer since AT&T started its exclusive partnership with Apple. But devices, such as Research In Motion's first touch-screen phone, the BlackBerry Storm, have not met the challenge.

Verizon is expected to launch its most aggressive marketing campaign ever to promote the new device, John Stratton, executive vice president and chief marketing officer at Verizon Wireless, said at the Droid launch event in New York this week. The company has already launched a pre-advertising campaign that spoofs the iPhone. Analysts expect the device to sell well out of the gate.

"Verizon sold a million of the original BlackBerry Storms in the first nine weeks it was available," Avi Greengart, an analyst with Current Analysis, said. "And that was a buggy mess. So I expect this device will at least meet that, if not exceed it."

Motorola's Jha said during the company's earnings conference call Thursday that the company is ready for a flood of orders.

"We feel very good about our ability to meet demand for the Droid," he said. "We've spent a lot of time studying what has happened in market when successful new products have been introduced. And we've been working closely with Verizon, and we've got good access to components suppliers that we feel good about things."

Motorola's management team has successfully cut costs, which included eliminating 8,000 jobs. And on Thursday it announced its second consecutive quarter of profits after experiencing heavy losses and shrinking market share in the cell phone business for several quarters.

Success not guaranteed, analyst cautions
Wall Street analysts are encouraged by the good news.

"Directionally, things are moving the right way in terms of new devices, carrier partnerships, and narrowing losses for Motorola's Mobile Devices segment," Mark Sue, an equities analyst with RBC Capital, said in a research note.

But Sue also cautioned that Motorola's success is not guaranteed.

"It won't be a smooth ride however, with timely delivery of new smartphones, high quality, and carrier endorsements key elements of Motorola's future success," he said.

What's more, Motorola also faces tough competition in the smartphone market. This holiday season consumers will be inundated with iPhone alternatives. Research In Motion has two new BlackBerry devices on the market. And there are a slew of other Android phones that have recently been introduced.

In addition to the Motorola Cliq and Motorola Droid, there is also the Samsung Moment and the HTC Hero, both on Sprint's network. T-Mobile also has other Android devices, including the G1 and the myTouch. The Palm Pre, which went on sale in June, is yet another smartphone on the market with similar functionality.

Again, one of the good things the Droid has going for it is its affiliation with Verizon, whose executives seem pleased to reconnect with the handset maker.

"We've had a long history with Motorola," Verizon's top marketing executive, John Stratton, said at the Droid event. "And we've lived through the company's ups and downs. This is a new Motorola. We took a chance, maybe even a risk, at the early stage in the rebirth of the company, and we're delighted in what we've seen in last 12 months."

Marguerite Reardon has been a CNET News reporter since 2004, covering cell phone services, broadband, citywide Wi-Fi, the Net neutrality debate, as well as the ongoing consolidation of the phone companies. E-mail Maggie.
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by SactoGuy018 October 30, 2009 4:32 AM PDT
I do think Motorola has a winner on its hands with the Droid smart phone.

Remember, unlike the Apple iPhone, Droid runs off the Google Android 2.0 OS, which is far more open than the iPhone 3.1.x OS. And Android supports Flash, which is necessary for some applications currently (though I think the need will go away once Android incorporates more HTML 5.0 support). Given the grief developers had with Apple's ham-fisted app approval policy (and Apple could end up paying for this with a potentially huge fine because of its rejection of the Google Voice app), we could see developers deciding in favor of Android, especially now that all the major cell phone manufacturers besides Apple are rolling out Android based products over the next few years.
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by MPB October 30, 2009 5:32 AM PDT
Well it might sell well in America but not anywhere else because it runs on a CDMA network where most countries use GSM Quad band UTMS/HSDPA (which the iPhone uses) So it maybe a good phone, but for example I can't even use it in Australia (where I live) because we have no CDMA networks here, and it's the same deal for a lot of other countries.

The use of GSM over CDMA means that you can take your iPhone (or other GSM phone) almost anywhere around the world and it will work. Unlike the droid which will only work on CDMA networks. Which most countries are replacing in favour of 3G. So if you get a Droid it would be a lot harder to travel with, than an iPhone.
by kelmon October 30, 2009 5:55 AM PDT
I think we need to be realistic here. While I do agree with the sentiment that Apple's approval process leaves a lot to be desired, it is neither going to result in a fine, nor is "openness" something that anyone outside the technology industry cares about. Flash support is something that I will wait to see. We can all agree that having Flash on the iPhone would be good but only if it works properly, which is to say that it performs fast enough and doesn't drain your battery. Having Flash support is one thing but having Flash support that really works is something else entirely...
by MPB October 30, 2009 6:12 AM PDT
@ kelmon

100% agree, no use shipping something that doesn't work properly well said :)
by limaxray October 30, 2009 7:32 AM PDT
@MPB - there have already been videos leaked of a GSM version of the Droid. Qualcomm, the company responsible for CDMA2000, makes nearly drop in replacement GSM chipsets to allow manufacturers to quickly turn a CDMA2000 phone into a GSM phone. They also make dual system chipsets that many Verizon phones use (but not the Droid AFAIK).

You need to also realize that GSM is focused more on portability than reliability, and most Americans prefer the reliability and superior coverage of a CDMA2000 network over the portability of a GSM network. I'd much rather never having to worry about whether I'm going to have 3G coverage in the US (unlike most iPhone users) and just purchase a cheap GSM phone when I go overseas.
by Renegade Knight October 30, 2009 7:37 AM PDT
@MPB

I have no doubt there will be a GSM version coming soon. GSM does have the lions share of the world phones using it.
by SactoGuy018 October 30, 2009 10:01 AM PDT
@MPB, I believe that Motorola will unveil a GSM standard Droid phone soon. This is very necessary since outside of North America, GSM is the dominant cellphone standard, and if Motorola wants to sell the Droid in Japan to NTT DoCoMo customers it has to run GSM.
by Random_Walk October 30, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
"I do think Motorola has a winner on its hands with the Droid smart phone. "

Are you sure about that? May want to read up on a wee limitation that the Droid has:
http://androidandme.com/2009/10/news/google-fails-to-address-app-storage-issue-with-droid-and-android-2-0/
by resu eman November 2, 2009 6:27 AM PST
@limaxray Don't understand what you mean eith GSM being built for portability and not reliability.
I've been using GSM since ever and don't remember the last time I had a dropped call. To be honest, I don't remember ever having a dropped call.
Can't tell the same for US phone network, considering the ads I see, or saw, from American phone companies.
Call reliability never needed to be a seelling point in Europe. We just don't have that problem.
by Donniebrasco November 2, 2009 12:31 PM PST
Really, how many users will be taking their phones overseas? 10%? International business travelers already have their Blackberry world phones. Phones like the Droid are definitely more focused on the casual, gadget-seeking consumer, not the guy taking the red eye to Tokyo to tie up a deal who needs a phone that works everywhere.

In the event I might travel to Europe this year, I would just get a temporary phone for the week I am there.
by make_or_break November 2, 2009 2:55 PM PST
@limaxray,
I think you're confusing GSM reliability with AT&T reliability. I've had little to no problems with dropped calls on T-Mobile's US GSM network--fact is, I don't think I've ever had a dropped call outside of a certain tunnel that's given me fits with ALL services I've ever been on--but my wife has had area-specific calling problems with her Verizon CDMA service. No US service provider has been perfect, but some definitely seem to be worse that others. I don't believe that the failures are due to the underlying quality of the technology that's being used, only in the inability of certain carriers to keep their networks up-to-date.
by dennisheadley October 30, 2009 4:37 AM PDT
I think they will sell quite a few of them, but I don't believe it will be their next Razor. They hype is really going strong right now, and everyone wants to have a Google Android phone that will just take over the world, but I don't think this is the phone to do it. It is not visually attractive and despite what the poll says, we talked about this at work yesterday when all the stories of its release were on all the tech sites and out of 23 people in the office, not one person thought it was an attractive phone that they would consider a had to have item. If you can't get any interest in a technical office I don't see it being the home run that everyone wants it to be.
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by NJMetsHero October 30, 2009 5:03 AM PDT
There won't be just one Android phone to do that. As a group they will.
by anotherprogrammer October 30, 2009 7:11 AM PDT
i would have thought a technical office would be more interested in the phone's technical capabilities than its appearance but hey ...
by kewell82 October 30, 2009 8:56 AM PDT
Hey Dennisheadley, do you look at your phone all day because it is attractive? You are complaining that it is not attractive, so do you look at the iphone and tell it how attractive it is and how you love the look of it? I think the way a phone looks doesn't matter as much as the functionality of a phone. So instead of comparing the way a phone looks let's compare the features because that is what really matters.
by frozenjello October 30, 2009 9:33 AM PDT
@kewell82. Looks certainly do matter to most people. Can you think of a reason why the RAZR was a huge hit besides its slim design? Yes, in its later years it became very inexpensive, but it first caught the public's attention for its attractive physical design.
by dennisheadley October 30, 2009 9:35 AM PDT
Wouldn't be able to look at the iPhone since I don't have one and no one that I work with has one either.

But yes I do look at my phone off and on all day, reading email, texts, viewing our corporate website and logging into the employee services to pull up PDF's of equipment manuals, making notes, filling in excel sheets for expenses, and many more things.

While i don't tell it how beautiful it is (maybe i should write it in a post it note now and then so it doesn't get a complex) the appearance of the phone can be very important.

such as:

The look of the screen and its bezel, glass or plastic film, glaringly shiny or more matte and viewable outdoors.

How the UI appears, the resolution of the display, how you interface with the phone.

Fit and finish of the device, how smooth or rounded the device edges are, whether there are covers on the earphone jack and other openings, whether the back plate is one piece or multiple pieces to cover the battery.

Button locations so you don't hit the buttons every time you go to pull your phone out of a belt case and turn on the camera or on one phone we had at work everyone was always turning on the audio recorder half the time when pulling our phones out.

Camera location so you don't touch the lenses all the time when you are holding it in landscape, or don't have to hold funny to keep you fingers out of the shot, one handed operation.

The list of visual items and construction features are every bit as important as the features such as what MP the camera is or any other feature of the phone.
by kewell82 October 30, 2009 10:02 AM PDT
@frozenjello and dennisheadley,
Come on, the external looks of the phone may matter for the first week to first month but after that who cares. I agree that the UI needs to look good longer than that, but as for external looks, who cares. It's all about functionality people.
by Static-X-Machina October 30, 2009 10:10 AM PDT
Who cares how it looks! Look at what all the thing DOES!
I don't give a DAMN what it looks like.
It could look like a big pile of steaming cow pie and I really wouldn't care...
Ok maybe that last statement is pushing it a little much.
Point is it looks sleek and smart.
Not neccesarily feng shui but look at susan boyle.
she didn't look the part but she blew the entire world away with that magnificent voice of hers.
by mose0 October 30, 2009 10:40 AM PDT
@ ANOTHERPROGRAMMER.
well said.
by dennisheadley October 30, 2009 12:28 PM PDT
Well I would guess that if you consider the capabilities or specifications the only thing to focus on when looking at a device then you either don't work for a company that does design work or ....

Anyway, going back to your comment about our office, the first thing we saw were the photos of the device so we of course started dissecting the images. Things being slow right now with most companies holding off on capital projects at the moment or trying hard to hold off on scheduling their service calls until the Thanksgiving/Christmas shut down periods or until next quarter ..well..we were kinda bored.

The first thing we questioned was the keyboard. Without seeing it in person to know for sure, it appears to be split between the keys in more of a computer keyboard fashion than most cellular keyboards. For people like ourselves that spend a great deal of time at customers sites touching dirty handrails and opening dirty electrical cabinets in places like steel plants and chemical plants having a keyboard that almost asks to be a problem when it collects dirt and grime is a negative mark. Won't know until I see one in person though on that one.

Second there are several open ports around the device that do not incorporate rubber covers to keep dirt and grime out. Likewise the perforated grill on the back of the phone looks to be a grime magnet as perforated surfaces always are, especially with it on the back cover of the device to be set down on the table or other places. It is sure to collect oil and dead skin from your hand over time and since its location looks functional and not cosmetic this might lead to problems with the electronics or battery.

The back cover being a small door that looks easier to open unintentionally, is not as good as some of the newer phones that have the entire back of the phone come off as one piece that really isn't easy to take off without intending to do so. Many people here use those stick on posts that go together with a belt clip and dash mount and have had very bad experience with phones with these small covers, especially since it is dead center of the phone.

I can't remember all the comments but in the end we found more potential negatives than positives when were were discussing it.
by Random_Walk October 30, 2009 1:05 PM PDT
Agreed on it not being the next Razr.

The Razr stood out because it had a jaw-dropping design for its time, nothing else could touch it, and early adopters paid dearly for the privilege of owning/using one. People dropped their existing phones like hot potatoes and flocked to get a Razr.

The Droid OTOH is, design-wise, nothing really special. There's nothing in it really that stands out. It seems to be a worthy phone in its own right, but nothing that would make one leave (for instance) their iPhone for it.
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by Maclover1 October 30, 2009 4:47 AM PDT
They will sell well, but Android is just to new and to fractured already. The razor was ONLY sold by Moto and it was the hardware that attracted not the OS.

This hardware is nice but the first HTC phone that has Android 2.0 and HTC sense is going to cut into this phones action. Or the first phone with same specs but uses the snapdragon or other faster CPU will outpace this.

The best thing this phone has going for it, it the full support of Verizon right now. Verizon has major iPhone envy so they are backing this thing pretty well.
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by aragorn888 October 30, 2009 5:04 AM PDT
So Sanjay cut 8000 jobs at Motorola. Man doesn't that make me feel warm and fuzzy all over...

I'm wondering if he really 'cut' them or maybe he just contracted them out to fellow Indian outsourcers. I'm asking because my own company's data center is a hunted building town now with the Indian guy put in charge of operations selling our jobs to the outsourcers. Half of the cubes are empty and the other half are occupied by the cheaper Indian 'guests'.

My questions - after all the American jobs get outsourced, who's going to buy anything in what's left of our... market? [I almost wrote 'country' or 'nation' but we all know that what he have now is a 'market'.]
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by rahulilr October 30, 2009 8:48 AM PDT
Motorola India fired 50% of its engineers. Marketing team was cut short from upward of 230 to employees. Sanjay may be an Indian, but that all there is to it. :)
by rahulilr October 30, 2009 8:50 AM PDT
Motorola India fired 50% of its engineers. Marketing team was cut short from upward of 230 to 20 employees. Sanjay may be an Indian, but that is all there is to it. :)
That guy is working for Motorola, not India.
by javaman42 October 30, 2009 5:14 AM PDT
It seems to me that this droid has a lot of potential, and cool features, but I don't look at it as a iPhone Killer, but more of a Windows Mobile killer. Other cell phone companies that currently use the Windows operating system will switch to the Google software mainly because it's free and more stable than Windows. Microsoft currently charges $25 per cell phone device that uses the Windows software.
Apple is very particular about maintaining a certain user experience on the iPhone/iPod Touch, and has greatly improved the iTunes Store and the App Store, making it one of it's best features that you can't find on any other device.
It would be nice to listen to my Pandora App while working on my ColorSplash App or playing Chain Rxn, but it's not the most important thing to me.
The Droid smart phone, Windows Mobile killer yes, iPhone killer no, not even close.
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by pgm8705 October 30, 2009 6:06 AM PDT
Are you saying the android market doesn't have pandora? Because it does, along with many of the other big name apps that most people use on the iphone.
by ski2moro October 30, 2009 6:35 AM PDT
He is commenting on the inability to run multiple applications at once.
by pjhenry1216 October 30, 2009 6:37 AM PDT
@javaman42: you failed to say why it wouldn't come close. it has an app store and it has a music store. aside from the brief mention of those two things which don't even constitute a real reason why it'd fail to be an iphone killer, you say nothing else about it.

@pgm8705: no, he's saying he can't do that on his iphone, but its not a big deal to him.
by Maclover1 October 30, 2009 7:40 AM PDT
@pjhenry1216 it wont come close right now because it lacks apps compared to the iphone. It lacks and easy way for Joe User to sync with his iTunes music, or at least not as simple as iTunes/iPhone.

Add to that you are going to have a wide margin of difference in Android phone UI and CPU options. This is good and bad. Take for instance the two phones from Sprint. The Hero has HTC sense on top of Android and no slide out keyboard. Sense makes the Hero and great phone. At the same time Sprint has a Samsung phone with plain Android and a slide out keyboard. The reviews of the Samsung are so so because of the lack of the sense UI. Then you have different CPU options from different vendors. The biggest thing I see in Android phone reviews is lag in UI because of slow CPU's in some phones.

So I think you will have great Adroid phones and bad Android phones. However because of its app store and the Android OS, its going to kill WinMO and at some point rival the iPhone, which nothing but great IMHO.
by WileySkier October 30, 2009 9:26 AM PDT
Maclover1, I don't know anyone who uses their iPhone for music...and I know plenty. Everyone I know uses the iPhone as a mobile device to access data and secondly a phone. The syncing for Joe user doesn't add up for me.

You're right about the Microsoft thing. They're probably sitting around saying, "how did this happen?" I've seen people posting how you can do everything with a WinMo phone and more than anything else, but who cares. The user experience is terrible.
by irondog1970 October 30, 2009 6:00 AM PDT
Keep in mind that 99.99% of people don't care if a phone OS is open or proprietary. Sorry, but the fact that one OS is open source and another isn't will never be a deciding factor for my choosing what smart phone I'll purchase.

What people look for is: will it sync with my computer? Can I back up my calendar & contacts? How easy is it for me to send a text message? How quickly can it get me to the app I want when I want to get to it?

Technical coolness (things that engineers care about) won't sell phones. Phones that are elegant and have an intuitive interface (something Motorola NEVER figured out on their own) is what sells phones to the masses.

Open source people need to learn that the interface is the most important thing you can do to your program or OS because that is how your user interacts with it. I've only seen Android 1 phones, but their interface seemed to be perfect for people who understand UNIX. Try try again.
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by dennisheadley October 30, 2009 6:32 AM PDT
You hit it right on the head. This is what we talked about at work yesterday. We all have Windows Mobile smartphones. Windows Mobile has the worst interface I could ever imagine for a phone of that level. We all have custom skin applications on them, be it SPB mobile shell that our company gave us, Wisbar advanced desktop or a couple others that people found, just to make them usable without a stylus.

Over the past year or so that we have had these phones we have tried all kinds of UI styles and most of us have ended up with very minimal UI styles that let us get to the applications we use more with the lest amount of clicks or presses. the UI is the single most important aspect of any device.

Gone off of everyones phones:

widgets, that we thought were cool as hell a year ago. These went the same way as the widgets on our vista machines, which was to disable them and the sidebar.

apps: YouTube, Facebook, IM clients, Netflix, Flickr, Google Maps, just about everything but mobile office and the built in Microsoft applications with the exception of many of us using Opera as a browser. We went app crazy at the beginning but that desire has really faded these days.
by drillforoil October 30, 2009 8:54 AM PDT
Well said:
I don?t care what os
I?m not a techie?.. I want convergence and simplicity
Nav, Text, Voice, Data, Music, Video, Pics, Etc.
Make it intuitive.
by kelmon October 30, 2009 6:09 AM PDT
I tend to look at the Droid and see a specifications driven device. Much of the discussions about it surround things like the screen size and resolution, which is nice but my issue is that specifications only go so far. One of the things that I like about the iPhone is that it has the content to go with it, by which I am referring to the iTunes Store. Both Android and the iPhone have access to applications and music but, as best as I can tell, only the iPhone has access to TV shows and movies. Certainly the Droid website isn't saying much about video aside from the device's ability to record it.

My point is that specifications only go so far and its the all-round package that matters. So far I am not seeing anything exciting about the Droid (I also don't live in the US) but I do wish Motorola all the best with it.
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by pjhenry1216 October 30, 2009 6:42 AM PDT
People complain that the iphone doesn't have multi-tasking because of battery power. Yet, you then use *movies* as a selling point? Watching tv shows and/or movies isn't going to be a deal breaker for a vast majority of people. I rarely watch TV on my iPhone and i'm fairly certain I'll still be able to get video on there if I ever wanted to anyway, so I'm not worried. You can't purchase video over the air through the iphone as of yet anyway, so it makes little difference assuming you have an average capability in use of computers.

So far, reviews have been quite good (and i disagree with it being specifications driven. maybe before they released demos to various folks it was, but it was the same with the iphone. people had little to go on until they could use it, so its a moot point.) except they said usability is slightly less due to it having more features than the iphone.
by Perry_Clease October 30, 2009 6:09 AM PDT
Spot on!
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by cbscowards October 30, 2009 6:11 AM PDT
I think it has the potential to help Motorola quite a bit. I agree that CDMA is limiting, is there a GSM version in the works?

I'm locked into my VZW contract until next summer. I had been intending to switch to an iPhone when that was up. This phone will definitely be a consideration when the time comes. Some key points for me will be:
1. Does VZW update this as Google advances Android? Apple has been doing regular iPhone updates. Google seems to be moving at a fast pace. I don't want to be stuck for 2 years if VZW isn't keeping up with Google advances.
2. What does the app landscape look like then?
3. Pricing for overall plans, AT&T vs VZW.
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by squeakyw October 30, 2009 9:34 AM PDT
There is indeed a tech aspect to the whole discussion but I can't loose sight of the fact that Verizon has a great network and many, many, many loyal customers who didn't jump ship to ride the iphone boat. Those folks (like me) have been waiting for a UI experience, a better screen, better internet capability, oh yeah and it should make and receive phone call. Also looking for the freedom from the hose job of having to buy locked down phones from restrictive carriers. There is an element of consumer revolt that is just looking for the right flag to follow. Consumers are pulling for VZW.
by snoonw October 30, 2009 6:13 AM PDT
The question has changed now to
What will the next Driod killer?
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by jdegs October 30, 2009 6:16 AM PDT
There's a good review + some unboxing pics of the phone here:
http://cellphoneforums.net/cell-phone-reviews/t304605-motorola-droid-review.html
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by PeDe7 October 30, 2009 7:01 AM PDT
i believe it's possible that this is can be the "iPhone killer" but i just wish companies would stop aiming for that. This is because they need to show that their cellphones are a separate entity because people are going to compare them to the iPhone regardless because it has set the standard. I think people should start caring whether an operating system is open or proprietary. Even though Android's UI may not compare to the iPhone's, it's "openness" allows customization so you can make it your own. That's why the MyTouch 3G has seen success because T-Mobile used that as bait. If Google, manufacturers, and/or cellphone providers would put more emphasis to show how much you can customize an Android powered device, then many more people would go out of their way to get one because it's capabilities are endless
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by blusky08 November 2, 2009 8:57 AM PST
Just a thought: More openness and ability to customize come with negatives too.
One of the nice things about MS systems, for example, is the ability to utilize more third party software. It's also one of the things that leads to most of the problems. Macs aren't as open and customizable, but they are stable and secure.
by ski2moro October 30, 2009 7:05 AM PDT
Has Motorola identified the target market? Razr captured the Teen/Tween market with its social networking and its price point. Will the price point make the phone affordable to the Teen/Tween market?

Will the marginally better tech specs be sufficient to attract current iPhone users to change?

Has Motorola come to the party too late?

For me, the two most important features in a smart phone at this point in time are 1, the ability to use the device abroad, and 2, full internet connectivity. I can't stand the watered-down mobile phone optimized internet sites. I want the full features of the internet on my phone.
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by Renegade Knight October 30, 2009 7:41 AM PDT
Right now they seem to be aiming for everbody except that market. That's iPhones baby now.
by awaybbl October 30, 2009 7:14 AM PDT
While I welcome Motorola's entry into the Android market, I fear that very quickly the market share that they are counting on will become very splintered very quickly. Since Android is such an open OS, it can and does run on a number of devices already, with many more being announced seemingly every other week.

Consumers are very fickle, and make their buying decisions more out of want than need. If they just "need" a phone, there's plenty of free devices out there. Good marketing sells high-end phones. This is where Moto/VZW will have an advantage since their ad budgets are huge, and can plaster their ads everywhere to help influence buying decisions.

It's impossible to predict what the market will look like in the next year or so, but one things for certain...

The real winner is Google, and not the handset manufacturers.
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by Renegade Knight October 30, 2009 7:42 AM PDT
Fair point. It's like owning the local beer wholesailer. There is always a hot spot, but that club changes. However that they all call you up to restock doesn't. The handset makers have to focus on that product line and features to stay relevant.
by roguewriter2 October 30, 2009 7:31 AM PDT
I think that direct competitors for the iPhone are great. However, I don't see it here. I haven't had the chance to physically handle one yet, but looking at closeups of the device, along with reading the details on features give me reasons to not want this phone. One, no multi-touch support on the screen. Major mistake right there. Two, the keyboard is obviously designed for smaller fingers. Also, why is there a direction control on the keyboard? Isn't the screen still touchable when using the keyboard? I would have thought someone at Motorola would've suggested dropping the direction control for a more user friendly keyboard.

All in all, it's an impressive device, but lacks some of the polished details I believe the device needs to really divert attention from the iPhone.
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by rwn1026a October 30, 2009 7:34 AM PDT
I think Motorola is getting too much credit for this phone... The phone will definitely be a huge success, but this is due to two strengths: Android and Verizon.. There are many Verizon customers wanting the iPhone or something similar who have not switched because of AT&T's unreliable network. Now they finally have a phone that can do EVERYTHING the iPhone can, and more. However, within the next year, we will be seeing scores of new phones coming out from other manufacturers that will match the capabilities of the Droid, but will probably be much "cooler".
I predict that in the next year we will see huge growth for Verizon and Android phones, at the expense of AT&T and the iPhone. Apple will probably be releasing the iPhone on Verizon's network in order to minimize market loss to Android. The Droid itself will be a success just because it is the first Android 2.0 phone and it's on the Verizon network, but "coolness" is still a very important selling quality, and the Droid doesn't do anything to increase Motorola's "coolness" factor.
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by SkateNY October 31, 2009 12:15 AM PDT
Enough. Nearly every time someone introduces an "iPhone Killer" or when someone describes a new handset as an iPhone Killer, Apple garners free publicity, free advertising, and a spike in sales.

What will happen when Apple and Verizon finally come to terms on a partnership? The iPhone Killer market will only become worse, strengthening both their positions.

Stop trying to catch up. Do what Apple did. Make your own damn phone.
by blusky08 November 2, 2009 9:15 AM PST
People are forgetting another major factor. Millions of people have a large amount of money invested in iPhone apps and accessories (as well as in iTunes). Convincing consumers to invest in all new equipment and apps is a major hurdle for any iPhone competitor. Plus, Apple's App Store has the advantage with several years running. It will take Android years to match Apple's selection.
by tbar2112 October 30, 2009 8:09 AM PDT
I think this phone looks dated, with a design that could've been launched 3 years ago. Android is rising with its ecosystem and being a part of that is certainly a good decision of Motorola. However, people care so much for design these days, and I fear this is not going to do it for them.
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by TaiYurShu October 30, 2009 8:51 AM PDT
What an ugly phone..Verizon seems to have some bad taste...i've seen better calculators (yes I like aesthetics)...as for Iphone killer..I doubt it...is a trend thing... only the uMeizu iphone can kill the iphone!! lol

I agree with Ski2moro..the simple features he mentioned IMO should have already been resolved by now...and I mean by every phone/software manufacturer...no excuses.
If I can browse webpages the way meant to be, take my phone around the world...they would have me in their pocket..otherwise is just another expensive useless toy cell phone....and one more thing...550 mhz processor???? thast nothing...i have a 680 mhz now and it still has lagging issues...its going to be a problem even android.

This is the reason I just wait 2 years and get the phone for free. Why spend money on something that doesnt work that well...or doesnt work at all... and spending alot of money monthly for something youre rarely able to use...

So far Im happy with my Winmo software ( i know, i know we all hate the windeathstar) it does all that it nees to do in order to bring the money in my pocket and not waste my time and frustrate me ( like the iphone, Blackberry ) with send/receive emails or open and share documents/images/video/sketches, etc.
Why would i want to spend money buying applications to do this when i can just buy the complete package...until then is just another development project that we all pay for...they dont pay you to test their devices..do they?
My thinkering with devices/software days are over...some of us just need to grab one and go.

Like many companies they want to make money without spending any...therefore u have the android...and I know some ppl like tinkering..and thats great..brings alot of innovation, but they have to think of the ppl who run around the world doing business. ( and dont say Blackberry..those phones drop calls more often than Iphones... and not to mention theyre big bulky phones with small screens.)

I persoanlly think Samsung and HTC have better looking and working phones...I can take em all over the world and get the job done...If you want an android phone i recomend one of these... better features processors and much much more.

I wont fall prey to these marketting schemes... ( look what the iphone did, it dragged its followers for years without working/or none at all email, video or cam!!! (and they still take the abuse ) brainwashing is great for business and they did a great job!!!

This phone is another BB storm!!! alot of ppl will buy it and return it.

Ok venting is over!!
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by heyderhider October 30, 2009 9:23 PM PDT
You're an idiot. So I suppose we should all stop driving in cars and just with til we all have rocket ships, or even better, teleporters. Got news for you just about EVERY product you buy is a work in progress. I mean unless you look at rubber bands they've pretty much been perfected, well unless they could make one that didn't pull your arm hair out when you store it on your wrist....but anyway. Technology is always going to be evolving and will change to meet the needs of consumers. You are never going to see a perfect mobile device the same way you have never seen a perfect PC, laptop, DVD player etc. The whole point of technology it to make peoples lives easier and the only way that can happen is through constant adaptation...cry baby.
by spitbucket October 30, 2009 9:00 AM PDT
OMG This supposedly "iPhone killer" doesn't quite get it. iPhone became a hit because of its aesthetic "DESIGN" and the synergy of the hardware and user interface design of iPhone is right on the spot. Motorola RAZR was a hit in 2004 eventhough it got a crappy user interface was only because of its hardware design. Its the "first impression last" thing, people always gravitate on the visual aspect of products. If they want an iPhone killer they should start hiring good industrial designer some graphical user interface designer with a lots of common sense. The only company that could come close on creating an iPhone killer so far are Sony and HTC. Sony with their Aino phone and HTC with Hero phone.
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by heyderhider October 30, 2009 9:15 PM PDT
Really? Really? On this website of all places you picked style over substance? Aren't we the geeks of the world? Yeah style counts for something but I'd rather have a great device vs. a great looking device. And in all reality it's not that bad looking trust me I know lots of hands on for the past few days. Also for you GSM whiners, did you miss the press releases from like a year ago? VZW is going to LTE next year so you can pretty much expect world versions of phones like the Droid on VZW in the not too distant future. For now I guess you'll just have to be JEALOUS!!!
by yours_truly_michael October 30, 2009 9:24 AM PDT
Save Motorola? Of course, the DROID is an amazing device, so long iPhone, it was good while it lasted!!!
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by AppleSuxLeo October 30, 2009 10:19 AM PDT
Who in their right mind really thought the iPoser with it`s closed , proprietary, walled-garden model would remain a monopoly ?
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