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October 29, 2009 5:29 AM PDT

Sprint losses and customer defections continue

by Marguerite Reardon
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Updated 8:32 a.m. PDT with information from the conference call.

Sprint Nextel is still losing customers, the company said Thursday as it reported a third-quarter loss.

Sprint's losses widened to $478 million, or 17 cents a share, during the quarter that ended September 30, from a loss of $326 million, or 11 cents a share, a year earlier. Revenue fell nearly 9 percent to $8.04 billion.

Results were slightly worse than analysts had expected. Analysts had been looking for Sprint to report a loss of 15 cents per share on revenue of $8.09 billion.

Sprint continued to lose customers, as it has for several quarters. But it lost fewer customers than analysts had expected. Sprint lost a total of 801,000 subscribers in the quarter. Analysts had expected the company to lose 870,000 so-called post-paid customers.

Meanwhile, Sprint competitors AT&T and Verizon Wireless added 2 million and 1.2 million customers, respectively.

That said, Sprint lost fewer customers than it has in the past quarters of 2009. In the second quarter it lost 991,000 subscribers and in the first quarter it lost 1.25 million. And Sprint's CEO Dan Hesse said during the conference call that he saw even more improvement toward the end of the third quarter due to a new service plan called Any Mobile, Anytime. This plan, which starts at $69.99 per month, allows subscribers to call any cell phone in the U.S., regardless of the carrier. The plan also comes with Sprint's Simply Everything Data plan, which includes unlimited text messaging and data services. Subscribers also get 450 voice minutes for calls to landlines.

"You can't win the game with just defense. You need to have a two-pronged attack."
--Sprint CEO Dan Hesse
Sprint CEO Dan Hesse

Sprint CEO Dan Hesse

(Credit: Sprint)

Sprint's churn rate, or the rate at which customers dump its service, was 2.17 percent, up from 2.05 percent in the second quarter.

"We finished the quarter stronger than started it with the launch of Any Mobile, Anytime," Hesse said. "So the trajectory leaving the third quarter did improve. We are hoping that this will help us keep the base of people on our Simply Everything plans and get customers to migrate. So we think it will make a difference in churn."

Hesse explained that before Sprint launched its Simply Everything plans, which bundle, data and voice services into one flat price, its highest churn came from the customers who spent the most money every month. After it launched the Simply Everything plan, it reduced churn of these valuable customers. And now the highest churn rate are among customers who spend less money per month on services.

"We know these plans make a difference," he said. "And we are moving down the rate card, hoping to improve churn and our brand."

These new plans may help with reducing churn, but it hasn't helped the company grow average revenues per customer. In fact, customers with contracts spent on average $56 a month, about the same as they've spent for the last several quarters. Data revenue accounted for almost 30 percent of that.

Reducing churn is critical for Sprint, but Hesse also noted that it's important for the company to add new customers as well. In an effort to keep customers, Sprint has added a new touch-screen Google Android phone, the HTC Hero. And it will soon add another Google Android phone, the Samsung Moment to its line-up. It is also the exclusive carrier for the Palm Pre, at least until the end of 2009. It will add the Palm Pixi to its lineup later next month. And it has launched new BlackBerry devices, including the BlackBerry Tour.

Hesse said it is important for the company to have a strong lineup of phones to compete against rivals, such as AT&T and Verizon Wireless. But adding smartphones comes at a price. In order to make devices more affordable to consumers, Sprint said it paid about $950 million to subsidize equipment, which includes high-end smartphones. A year ago it spent $700 million on equipment subsidies.

'Doubling-down' on prepaid
"Competition is getting tougher among postpaid competitors as we all go after each other's base of customers for growth," he said. "But that is why we are also doubling down on our prepaid business. Because we think there is more growth there."

Indeed, Sprint did much better in the third quarter adding prepaid customers than it did adding new postpaid, contract customers. Much of this growth was helped by Sprint's Boost Mobile brand, which includes unlimited calls and texting for a $50 a month. Sprint added about 666,000 prepaid users.

Hesse said he expects the Virgin Mobile USA service, which Sprint acquired in July, to also help grow this business. The Virgin service uses Sprint's CDMA network, while Boost uses the company's iDEN network.

"We are looking to prepaid service as a potential growth engine," he said. "But still intend to get postpaid back to growth, and to do that we must focus on churn, but we also have to add customers. You can't win the game with just defense. You need to have a two-pronged attack."

But analysts and investors question this strategy. They worry that Sprint is becoming too dependent on prepaid customers, a business which has typically been less profitable than the postpaid market.

Hesse also said he was hopeful that the company's investment in 4G wireless will begin paying off in 2010 and beyond. The company has partnered with Clearwire to build a nationwide 4G wireless network using WiMax technology. The network is already up and running in 17 markets. And Sprint is offering a dual mode 3G/4G service that provides full nationwide coverage to wireless customers today.

"Another important area of growth is in 3G and 4G data," he said. "And I think the industry's best days are ahead."

Marguerite Reardon has been a CNET News reporter since 2004, covering cell phone services, broadband, citywide Wi-Fi, the Net neutrality debate, as well as the ongoing consolidation of the phone companies. E-mail Maggie.
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by sharmajunior October 29, 2009 6:20 AM PDT
Well, if one company loses customers, some other has to gain them. Ain't it?

Sprint should just acknowledge their crappy service and drop out already. They already ruined Nextel and their ads on TV take too long. Maybe 24 can get a different sponser after all.

I'll be happy to see Jack Bauer say, "I am calling you from the some other network", instead of saying "I am calling you from the Now network".
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by ausernamenoonehaschosen October 29, 2009 7:25 AM PDT
Last year Sprint was consistently rated dead last for reliability in several areas of the US by Consumer Reports. Does anyone know how they fared this year in the testing, I missed that article?
by aka_tripleB October 29, 2009 9:29 AM PDT
Not necessarily. There are a couple of reason that people don't drop one carrier for another. For instance, the person realizes they don't use the phone enough to justifying one or the customer dies. I know the latter is a grim reason, but you don't switch to a different carrier when you're dead.
by bluemist9999 October 29, 2009 12:38 PM PDT
@aka_tripleB

While it's true dead people don't often switch carriers, they do tend to be a bit late on paying their bills, so it's not a really important demographic for Sprint.

Of course it does sound great for Halloween:

"Sprint! Number one network for the undead!"

:-)
by codynews October 29, 2009 6:29 AM PDT
24 hasn't been on for a while dude :)

And yeah, Sprint sucks as their phones REALLY suck. Sure they got the Pre (finally) but it wasn't good enough to save them. They need an iphone. I mean, AT&T has crappy service but people still keep switching to them because of the iphone. The Pre didn't have the same gravitas.

Cody
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by cemccon October 29, 2009 7:46 AM PDT
CODY: I couldn't agree more!! Sprint most defintely needs the iPhone; if they do not get it, they will certainly die. The only reason we stay with Sprint at all is because we get 25% off our bill thru my wife's employer. Also, AT&Ts coverage, especially their 3G coverage, is really poor where we are.
by Random_Walk October 29, 2009 6:38 AM PDT
So, err, wasn't the Pre supposed to have the iPhone dead by now, with AT&T filing for bankruptcy as everyone ran for Sprint? That's what all the pundits were crowing about when it first came out...
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by sharmajunior October 29, 2009 6:42 AM PDT
I guess they forgot to mention their sponsors in their blogs...LOL
by basraw October 29, 2009 8:52 AM PDT
The Instinct was also sold as the iPhone killer a year ago.
by myles taylor October 29, 2009 12:42 PM PDT
I've seen so many "iPhone killers" announced that i hardly pay attention to them anymore. I've realized that it doesn't really matter how good the phone is or anything like that. It will take more than a good phone to "kill" the iPhone.
by Cricker12 October 29, 2009 6:49 AM PDT
Unfortunately Sprint's vaunted "nationwide network" is limited to the cities and interstates. If you want adequate coverage around here you have to go with Verizon (AT&T's is as bad as Sprint). It doesn't matter how great your phones are if your customers get a "no service" message!
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by ericmn1 October 29, 2009 7:09 AM PDT
While its true that Sprint focuses more on city and interstate coverage they still manage to cover over 263 million people with their network. Also Sprint has some of the most extensive roaming agreements of any wireless carrier including Verizon Wireless. So your statement about "no service" simply doesn't hold water. Since I don't pay for roaming I get Sprint's network and on rare occasions where I can't grab a Sprint signal I also get the use of Verizon's network.
by giovanijones October 29, 2009 6:54 AM PDT
I'm not sure what everyone complains about Sprint's service. I have never had an issue with the call quality or when I've had to call for customer service, there was no problem. There are times when I'm with friends and they complain more about their Verizon coverage and dropped calls. I've had Sprint now for 4 years and before that Nextel.

I got the Pre a few months ago and while I like the phone the one complaint I have about it is at times the response time when I press to open an application there is a delay, now it doesn't happen all the time.
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by sellersce October 29, 2009 7:23 AM PDT
I love Sprint and I think that they have a great choice of phones. I get the exact same coverage with Sprint that I had with Verizon and I don't understand how people can say that they get different coverage with Verizon than they do with Sprint... can't be that big of a difference since they do have roaming agreements.

I will not be changing cell service again unless Sprint goes completely under which I don't think will happen.
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by bj1126 October 29, 2009 7:24 AM PDT
I'm quite happy with Sprint and my Pre. I'm in South Florida though and coverage here is good.

Only complaint with the Pre has to do with wifi and their attempts at increasing battery life. It's basically just better to leave wifi off.
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by JimPratt3 October 29, 2009 7:53 AM PDT
It's the economy, stupid. Also, with two new Android phones being offered by Sprint, I think they are turning the corner on the phone lineup issue so often complained about by some. The iPhone will also find eventual competition and replacement as the rest of the phone industry catches up, and once again showing up AT&T's pathetic coverage. Look for subscribers to leave them in droves or look for another industry merger at that point in time.
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by myles taylor October 29, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
So if it's the economy, how come their competitors are adding subscribers and they are losing them? Don't blame the the economy. I've heard the "Sprint is abut to turn things around" over and over. The Pre was supposed to do that.
by supoman October 29, 2009 1:30 PM PDT
Sprint is toast!!! The only corner they've turned is the one headed to the graveyard!! To make matters worst they bet the farm on WIMax and the rest of the world is going to LTE so now it'll be difficult to find a buyer that will want to take them, their debt and their dead on arrival 4g network!!!
by dbargen October 29, 2009 7:55 AM PDT
With those recent rates for reasonable unlimited data rates (as compared to AT&T and VZW) you can tell Sprint is getting a bit desperate. At the time, I simply thought Spring was going to go after more revenue by volume while introducing a new data market force with its low price, but now it just looks like someone trying to keep their head above water.

And here I really was going to go and jailbrake an iPhone... Oh well.
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by iceman721 October 29, 2009 8:28 AM PDT
I was a Sprint customer for years. Their HORRIBLE customer service drove me to T-mobile and I haven't been disappointed. T-mobile's network is still improving and I now find 3g coverage in about every major area I travel to (Dallas, Vegas, Atlanta, Charlotte, etc.). I absolutely LOVE T-mobile's customer service. I never had any problems with the Sprint network only the customer service. ATT is the carrier for my work mobile and I still experience more dropped calls with them that with my personal phone on T-mobile's "smaller" network. Add to that the fact that my BB is a 2g model and they still can't keep the signal flowing many times.

Keep Sprint and their closed phone system (CDMA) and their poor customer service. I'll stick with T-mobile. Now all I need is that Sony Ericsson "Rachel" X3 on T-mobile and I will REALLY be good!
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by maineguy207 October 29, 2009 1:57 PM PDT
I too left Sprint earlier this year and went with T-Mobile. Sprints customer service was horrible whenever I called and sadly it was frequent due to no coverage despite their claims I should be receiving excellent coverage in my area. Finally after two months they sent a person out and sure enough they confirmed what I already knew but wouldn't let me out of my contract. So I ended up paying the termination fee as it wasn't worth calling just to be yelled at by reps.
T-Mobile has been excellent, the only time I have dropped calls is when I'm at the gym where I work and it's in the basement, I can deal with that.
by AppleSuxLeo October 29, 2009 6:49 PM PDT
I`d switch too if they get the Rachel..but in my research the frequency it runs on is not the ones used in the USA.
There is a teaser ad for it , but it is for South America.
by marvin25 October 29, 2009 8:49 AM PDT
The fact of the matter is converting into a data transmission network and it's total reveune will be from data and cell phone will a small part of its business/ It has one of the biggest data contract in the world and it is preforming on it. When someone look at the size of the contract then they will see that there is no problem for Sprint to earn money. They may handle more data than either ATT and Verizon right and they are making money on the contract. This allows them to fund the 4G network they are putting with no problem and also have an income stream.
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by denden80 October 29, 2009 9:06 AM PDT
I've been a Sprint customer since Sprint PCS...about 10 years. I haven't had any problems with my phones or coverage. Sprint's biggest problem isn't the phones or the service packages. IT'S THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE. Sprint has the absolute worst customer service department that I've ever had to deal with. From 2000 to now, it's always been terrible. I'm so glad that I've only had to deal with them twice. My wife and several other Sprint customers that I know have actually had to contact the BBB before Sprint would resolve their issues. Did Hesse mention anything about improving customer service to help retain existing customers?
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by windooor7 October 29, 2009 9:12 AM PDT
IF and only if ,they can come up with a Real palm pre. 3.6 screen, 16 gb on board, key board(optional) and sell it for 89 tHEN that it. coz there is no way they can iprove the keyboard without affecting the bottom line. design. its not about sprint it all about the phone. services(providers) are 39+30+tax ...
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by dancote October 29, 2009 9:42 AM PDT
We switched to Sprint 3 years ago when we moved into our new home and Verizion's service here was non-exixtent. Sprint's was marginally better and when they offered me the AirRave device for free and no monthly charge I was committed. Now I'm just waiting for Sprint to drop the mail-in rebate so I can get a new Palm Pre without the rebate hassle.
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by blindingrage October 29, 2009 9:51 AM PDT
When is this monopoly going to end? When is my service provider going to provide just service? If the phone market was not tightly tied to the service providers, maybe we could choose a service on the merits of the service, a phone on the merits of the phone and not be driven to either a phone or service based on which we prefer.

Force the phone makers to sell to the consumer. Let the consumers drive the market for the best phones, and maybe Sprint wont lose $950 million a year in subsidies. I wonder what my service would cost without that tag? You don't buy your TV through your cable company, do you?
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by mpitogo October 29, 2009 10:04 AM PDT
Finally, someone who also gets it. I agree why should our phones be tied to restrictive networks. One good example, I've lived with crackberry tethering to my laptop for 2 years before the iPhone, moved to both iPhone and iPhone 3G and 2+ years later still nothing. I had to get a vzn evdo card to get my laptop back online while mobile.
by myles taylor October 30, 2009 12:17 AM PDT
I would love that. A lot of people would love that. It'd be all shiny and nice until customers started complaining about having to shell out $600 for a phone. Also the carriers heavily subsidize R&D for the phones as well. Take them away and it changes the whole face of the industry. Would it be better? Maybe. Would we like it? Maybe or maybe not.
by eolson1001 October 29, 2009 10:08 AM PDT
I've always wondered about Sprint's problem as my Sprint coverage is significantly better than AT&T and costs significantly less per month. I simply can't figure out why people are bailing in droves. One can get pretty much any comparable phone on Sprint that one can on Verizon or AT&T (other than the iPhone), so it can't be the phones. What's the real reason people are leaving? Did they target the lower end of the consumer market and do they find that many of those people are leaving for prepaid or the MetroPCS type of plans?
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by c_hop October 29, 2009 11:02 AM PDT
Just have to call Sprint Customer Service one time and everything will be crystal clear - it's like they still haven't fully absorbed Nextel as you get bounced from one number to the next with no solution to your issue. Throw in some disconnections along the way and the anger and frustration that you feel could power your house for a few years. That being said, I am still with them because they are average in cell service (better that AT&T by far) and inexpensive in cost for what you get.
by AppleSuxLeo October 29, 2009 11:27 AM PDT
Since Verizon is getting an updated version of the HERO , and is getting the Droid , Sprint will be losing me soon. I`m month-to-month waiting for Droid to land.
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by dancote October 29, 2009 12:38 PM PDT
Sprint will also be getting Android phones AFAIK.
by AppleSuxLeo October 29, 2009 1:00 PM PDT
Droid on Sprint or something better like the SonyEricsson Snapdragon powered phone.
No problems with Sprint service at all. Sprint on and off since 1998 !
by AppleSuxLeo October 29, 2009 11:29 AM PDT
Verizon...take over/buy Sprint...and be done with it ! ATT would die.
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by myles taylor October 29, 2009 12:45 PM PDT
That would never be allowed, since Verizon is the largest carrier in the US. Also, it would take a lot more than that to kill AT&T. They are competing with all the other phone companies. Why would those companies combining kill AT&T?

Oh wait....it's you and you don't listen to sense or talk sense. You just spew out nonsense.
by AppleSuxLeo October 29, 2009 1:03 PM PDT
I didn`t mean put them out of business , but with Sprint customers added we could get the Droid WITHOUT switching.
And trust me,,,Droid and all the other Android phones will add millions of customers to Verizon.
by supoman October 29, 2009 1:33 PM PDT
What would kill AT&T is if Verizon gets the iPhone. AT&T is a one trick pony and if Verizon get's that pony they are done!!
by AppleSuxLeo October 29, 2009 6:46 PM PDT
Very shortly after the Droid , they (Verizon) are releasing their updated version of the HERO , which on Sprint has had great reviews.
And it is supposed to go for only $99. That`s quite a second trick for the pony..in a very short time. (Droid Eris)
by corelogik October 29, 2009 1:29 PM PDT
The wireless carriers in the US need to wise up and face the fact that no one wants their crappy service and forced contracts. When the carriers quit pretending like they are some sort of monopoly and give customers what they want, people will quit ditching their service.
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by Brent212 October 29, 2009 2:56 PM PDT
I live in the San Jose, CA area, and after using AT&T, T-Mobile, Cingular (which then became AT&T while I was still with them), and now I've been with Sprint for about a year and a half.

For me, they definitely have the best coverage. I don't think I've ever had a call drop, and call quality is noticeably better than with any of my past carriers. Yeah, it could just be that I have a better phone, but I think it at least is partially because Sprint has better coverage in my area. There was even one time where I was at a gas station in a rural area towards Yosemite with a group of people, each of whom had non-Sprint phones (two AT&T, one Verizon), and I was the only one who had a signal. I was on the phone in the mini mart and the lady behind the counter asked me what carrier I had because she said most people couldn't make calls there.

With that said, I've never experienced worst customer service than when I was initially setting up my account/phone with Sprint. It was unbelievably bad. The service reps were absolutely useless, and the only time I ever got anything accomplished was when I'd tell them that I was over it and wanted to cancel. I'd then get transferred to cancellations and when the person would ask me why I was cancelling, I'd tell them what I was trying to do and that it apparently wasn't possible, and they'd say something along the lines of "well that's no problem! Let me go ahead and do that for you!" and BAM, it'd always work for them. That happened 3 or 4 times, during the countless hours I spent waiting for non-cancellations department tards who apparently had no more knowledge or capabilities than I did from looking at their website and viewing my account (Half the time I had to actually correct them or provide information that was clearly visible to me in my online account).

I like the coverage, although I never had extensive problems with any of my previous carriers. The main thing keeping me with Sprint is that I'm on a SERO plan, so the cost can't be beat. But all these new phones are pretty tempting, and it seems they've stopped allowing SERO customers to use the new phones. So with that in mind, I'll probably be jumping ship once my two year contract's up. Even if I can get a good phone from Sprint on one of their normal plans, I'd rather give my business to another carrier out of spite for them not allowing me to keep my current plan. If I'm not saving money, why would I stay with a company like that?
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