September 8, 2009 3:22 PM PDT

Comcast to offer 100 Mbps service to businesses

by Marguerite Reardon
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Comcast announced Tuesday it will offer 100 Mbps broadband service to businesses in the Twin Cities as the company increases speeds on its network as a result of network upgrades.

The company is offering the service over its newly upgraded Docsis 3.0 network. The Minneapolis-Saint Paul region was selected as the first area to get the service because it is one of the most mature Docsis 3.0 deployments that Comcast currently serves.

Comcast hasn't provided a schedule for when the service will be expanded. But a spokesman said the company will eventually introduce it in all its markets that have been upgraded to Docsis 3.0. These markets include Boston and parts of Southern New Hampshire, parts of Hartford, Philadelphia and surrounding areas, Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, large parts of New Jersey, parts of Atlanta, Baltimore, Chicago, Ft. Wayne, Chattanooga, Portland, Seattle, City of San Francisco and the Bay Area.

Comcast's goal is to reach 80 percent of its national footprint this year with the faster Docsis 3.0 technology. Currently, it covers about 65 percent of its footprint. By the end of the year, if Comcast reaches it goal, its faster broadband service will be available in more than 40 million homes and businesses.

Comcast already offers 50 Mbps service to businesses and residential customers in these markets today. But now the company is stepping up its efforts with the 100 Mbps service.

Comcast's rival Verizon Communications doesn't yet offer 100 Mbps service for any of its customers. The fastest service available from the company's all-fiber Fios network is 50 Mbps. Verizon's all fiber network is capable of delivering 100 Mbps speeds, but the company says it hasn't seen a big demand for it from either residential customers or business customers.

"We offer 50 Mbps in every market we serve," said Bobbi Henson, a spokeswoman for Verizon. "We haven't seen a tremendous amount of demand for 100Mbps service."

But Comcast's Kevin O'Toole says there is demand from small businesses. He said that businesses, such as those in healthcare or real estate, which send large files are in the most need of more bandwidth. What's more, Comcast offers several other services along with the broadband service to make the service more valuable to business customers.

For $369.95 per month these businesses get access to Microsoft services, such as Microsoft Exchange email, which provides shared corporate calendar and address functionality, and Microsoft Sharepoint, which allows businesses to have their own intranet. Comcast also will offer these 100 Mbps customers hardware firewall protection and 25 seats of McAfee security. It also offers free web hosting and domain support.

Comcast isn't competing against Verizon's Fios service with this 100 Mbps service. It is actually competing with Verizon's and other phone companies' T1 data services. This is the kind of service that most larger businesses subscribe to from a telephone provider. Not only are T1 services expensive, in some places costing close to $1,000 a month, but T1 lines are also slow, only providing downloads of 1.5 Mbps.

Comcast believes that small businesses with fewer than 20 employees is an underserved market. And in 2006 it started its business service unit. The strategy of going after these small businesses has paid off. And iIn the second quarter of 2009, the company reported that the business services unit grew revenue by 51 percent compared to the second quarter of 2008.

This is an underserved market that really needs the speed of 100 Mbps service," O'Toole said. "Plus we offer them a great value when you look at the entire package."

Marguerite Reardon has been a CNET News reporter since 2004, covering cell phone services, broadband, citywide Wi-Fi, the Net neutrality debate, as well as the ongoing consolidation of the phone companies. E-mail Maggie.
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by cvaldes1831 September 8, 2009 3:48 PM PDT
"We haven't seen a tremendous amount of demand for 100Mbps service."

Not at your prices.

Japan has 160Mbps service at 6,000 yen per month (approx. US$65). The Netherlands has 120Mbps service at 80 euros per month (approx. US$116).
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by rjmst80 September 15, 2009 7:44 AM PDT
$369/mo. still beats the heck out of paying $1000/mo. for 1.5Mbps T1 service.

Your comparison is utterly irrelevant. It's like saying there's no demand for Amtrak's Acela train service in the U.S. because tickets for Maglev trains in Europe are half the price.
by jaguar717 September 17, 2009 10:46 AM PDT
Here we go again. The America-last crowd loves to compare the lowest common denominator here to the top 1% abroad.

The fact of the matter is that you have a whole lot of subsidies and economies of scale at work. Those blazing speeds are available, but only if you're living in in a high rise in some mega-urban center, because that's where you have enough people stacked on top of each other to make it worthwhile.

And even then, while your bill may show an acceptable dollar amount per month, if you actually work for a living you're covering the rest of your costs with the 50 or 60% of your paycheck that gets forfeited to the half dozen layers of government on your back.

You can artificially force a price down, but the costs still exist.
by nicmart September 8, 2009 4:27 PM PDT
We hear about speed data and prices for other countries, but I'm skeptical. Things often aren't what they seem. What percent of Dutch homes wired for Internet get 120 mbps service for 80 euros? To what extent is the price subsidized by hidden taxes? What percent of wired Japanese homes get 160 mbps service at 6,000 yen? Is that price subsidized by taxpayers? Be skeptical, ask questions, dig deeper.
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by rrod182 September 8, 2009 4:40 PM PDT
They aren't subsidized at all. Those markets are competitive, opposed to the cable monopolies and telecom we have here. Comcast charges as much as they do because they can, plain and simple.
by La_Mont September 8, 2009 5:12 PM PDT
I live in the Netherlands, there is no hidden tax. The price is the price. The government wants the country to be seen as competitive to international businesses, so yearly the speeds increase. I have 25 mbps for 25 euros per month and I find it to be beyond my household needs. But a business with many staff online needs as much bandwidth as they can get , I would imagine. There is nothing to be skeptical about, the USA has just dropped the ball with updating communication technology. I can get flawless 8 mbps on a train between Amsterdam and Paris while traveling at 186 mph, a pipe dream in America. What a shame. And you don't even have high speed rail connecting all major cities in different regions of the country. America is falling behind a large chunk of the world.
by freemarket--2008 September 9, 2009 6:35 AM PDT
@La_Mont: The US is falling behind nothing. We have the capability to provide these services, but not the demand for them. The US has a much lower population density than Europe or Asian countries, thus the costs are much higher. High bandwith at home is not a necessity, it is a luxury. Businesses can get what they need if they are willing to pay for it.

It would be nice to have fast trains, but they too are expensive due to the size of the country. Most people are accustomed to driving or flying to distant points.
by dumbspammers September 9, 2009 2:59 PM PDT
Fast trains are one Hell of a lot less expensive than fast airplanes. When the oil runs out in the next decade or two, the USA will have no high-speed long distance transportation, while Japan, Europe, and Russia (which is a whale of a lot bigger than the USA) will have their 500 MPH trains. And then my grandchildren will be Third World citizens, thanks to idiots who can't plan ahead, and idiots who oppose true competition.
by SteveW928 September 11, 2009 2:14 AM PDT
@ freemarket--2008 -

Sure, the US has the 'ability' and 'technology' to do it, but won't because of the stranglehold these companies have on the market. It is nice Comcast is offering descent speeds, and admit they are ahead of the pack in general. But, they are way too much $ compared to other countries. The worst part is that we (the taxpayers) have paid the telcos lots of money to get faster broadband and cheaper rates. They simply haven't delivered, and instead have invested in capping and limiting technologies in hopes of forcing customers to pay even more or trap them into using their add-on services. Now the government is offering them more taxpayer money to attempt to move towards what we paid them for years ago. It is incredibly sad.
http://www.newnetworks.com/ShortSCANDALSummary.htm
by cvaldes1831 September 8, 2009 4:37 PM PDT
While it is doubtful that every house in Japan or the Netherlands is capable of getting 120 or 160Mbps service, the fact remains that European and Southeast Asian consumer-grade Internet speeds are 5-10 times faster than what Americans pay for.

And we're talking about average speeds. Remember that Europe and Japan has much higher deployment of Docsis 3.0 than here in the U.S. (where deployment is just starting as mentioned in the above article).

It's basically the same thing with cellular networks. Japan, Hong Kong and a few markets already have 28.8Mbps HSDPA networks in service. Basically all of Asia and Europe run 14.4Mbps or 7.2Mbps HSDPA networks in service.

The United States is about 3-5 years behind those countries in terms of broadband connectivity as well as cellular networks.
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by krosafcheg September 8, 2009 5:04 PM PDT
With all the taxes I paid to subsidize ripping up my neighbor streets to lay fiber, I want my damn highspeed internet already! FIOS where are you!? This is the Silicon Valley for God's sake. It's like Detroit not having access to the latest cars. Dumb. Plain ol' dumb.
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by firedrakeseqoa September 8, 2009 5:16 PM PDT
one other thing is your a website for file hosting or something like that the comcast will limit your bandwidth and such
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by gordonmessmer1 September 15, 2009 9:40 AM PDT
Can you be more specific? It sounds like you're confusing their residential service, which has bandwidth caps and filters that block SMTP, with their business service which has none. As a consultant, I have their business service at my home, and am very happy with it. My roommate previously had DSL which was twice the price for less than half the bandwidth.
by marvin25 September 8, 2009 9:42 PM PDT
You forget that there is one ISP that can handle this speed to business concerns with no problem. Comcast is worried about this one ISP as it is cheaper or more efficient than their system. When they give 100 megs it is not in a loop but the speed you get if others are connected in. This is saying the highest everyone on the loop can get. You must realize that Comcast constantly looses to ISP and they are trying to compete with them in rural America. Most people drop them and go with this ISP and Comcast has thinking of leaving the area because of the lose of customers. They are not giving anything except to fight one ISP that constantly put's them behind the curve. Verizon decided not to fight this ISP and sold that operation to Frontier. Comcast is trying to fight them and they will find out that they can't win at all.
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by MongooseProXC September 9, 2009 8:15 AM PDT
I have been waiting for DOCSIS 3.0 in my area for well over a year now when it was first announced. They say it will offer higher speeds for everybody. Unless you live in a large city, though, I wouldn't expect it for at least another five years. Been waiting for my e-mail which probably isn't coming. Seems like a gimmick. Feel free to check at www.comcast.com/fastestfast but don't hold your breath.
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by dumbspammers September 9, 2009 2:54 PM PDT
"For $369.95 per month these businesses get access to Microsoft services, such as Microsoft Exchange email, which provides shared corporate calendar and address functionality, and Microsoft Sharepoint, which allows businesses to have their own intranet. Comcast also will offer these 100 Mbps customers hardware firewall protection and 25 seats of McAfee security. It also offers free web hosting and domain support."

I would charge a one-time fee of $1250 to remove 25 seats of McAfee security and install an effective security suite (but it is the customer's responsibility to buy licenses). Having ineffective security software installed is worse than none at all, because the user who knows he is not protected will be more careful than the user who thinks he is, but isn't.

I have to echo the comment by cvaldes1831 also; I have 20 Mbps FiOS, and there's no way I can justify the outrageous expense of 50 Mbps, much less anything faster.

Lastly, I would point out that Comcast does NOT offer 100 Mbps service; they offer "up to 100 Mbps" service, with no guarantee that you'll even get dial-up speeds of 14.4k. That's why I am no longer with Comcast; their advertised speeds were ALWAYS at least 40% higher than the speeds they delivered, and when we had a total outage for a week without being credited for downtime, I told them where to stick their cable modem.
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by rjmst80 September 15, 2009 7:50 AM PDT
Have you clocked your current internet speed? Every company states "up to" in their marketing materials to protect themselves from legal liability if the speeds temporarily drop below the advertised speed. Verizon FiOs service regularly clocks in 30% lower than its advertised speed, and it's more expensive, apples-to-apples, than Comcast's service.

My company has had Comcast for 3 years, and we've never had a bit of trouble with their service.
by gordonmessmer1 September 15, 2009 9:37 AM PDT
I personally have 22/5Mbps service from comcast, and I regularly test at around 30Mbps in. Uploads are fairly consistently around 5Mbps, so I'm very happy with their service.
by inachu1 September 15, 2009 11:13 AM PDT
More speed but more lag.......
I left comcast 1 month ago and OMG! I should have doen this a log time ago.

I no longer have lag. I love fios!
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by redmarine September 17, 2009 3:17 PM PDT
Meh, In my country pretty much everyone is able to have broadband and I seriously mean it. Seems like Europe and Asia is the place to be during this revolution.

What I don't get is that the prices of broadband can't be lowered because of some crazy anti-competitive regulations in our country meaning that we're stuck with the $30-40 price tag. Kinda annoying.
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Marguerite Reardon has been covering the telecom beat for more than a decade and knows more about wireless and IP networking than she cares to admit. She has been a senior writer for CNET News since 2003, covering all things wireless and broadband related from iPhone launches to major telephone company mergers to IPTV developments. She often appears as an expert on news networks, including CNBC, MSNBC, NPR, and the BBC. Maggie loves visiting CNET's headquarters in San Francisco, but she's an East Coaster at heart, living and working in Manhattan.

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