October 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT

Ubuntu's new Linux tries getting cloud-friendly

by Stephen Shankland
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With all the hubbub about Snow Leopard and Windows 7, there's another operating system out there you may not have noticed that's getting a significant update: Ubuntu Linux.

Ubuntu backer Canonical plans to release its "Karmic Koala" version on Thursday, and both the desktop and server versions of the open-source operating system take significant steps toward cloud computing. The concept of moving work away from the computer in front of you and into the network does have some merit, but cloud computing is today's fashionable buzzword, and Canonical Chief Executive Mark Shuttleworth is sensitive to its overuse.

Canonical CEO Mark Shuttleworth speaking at the Intel Developer Forum

Canonical CEO Mark Shuttleworth speaking at the Intel Developer Forum

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

"What frustrates me is the term 'cloud' has come to mean anything with an Internet connection, including some stuff that really looks familiar like internal IT," said Shuttleworth in an interview. It's fair to say that in Ubuntu's case, though, it's not a stretch.

Built into the server version of Ubuntu 9.10 is Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud, technology built atop the Eucalyptus software package. Amazon Web Services (AWS), a collection of computing infrastructure accessible over the Net on a pay-as-you-go basis, is among today's most significant cloud-computing efforts, and Eucalyptus implements many of its functions so companies can build their own "private clouds" using the same services.

And in the desktop version of Ubuntu, the cloud connection is a service called Ubuntu One, which lets Ubuntu users synchronize files stored on different machines and back them up on the central service. Storage space of 2GB is free, and 50GB costs $10 per month.

The Ubuntu software itself is free; Canonical sells Ubuntu support services.

Ubuntu remains popular among the technically savvy Linux crowd, but it faces challenges. On the server, where Linux is common and there's money to be made, Red Hat is still dominant. On desktops and laptops, Linux has yet to take on Windows or Mac OS X among mainstream computer users.

And to this day, Canonical, the company Shuttleworth founded to back Ubuntu, remains unprofitable. Shuttleworth demurs when asked when the company he's funded will go into the black.

As ever, he's optimistic that the business will bear fruit. Revenue is growing, he said.

"It takes a long time to build traction in the enterprise market, but I now see that traction," Shuttleworth said. "Our growth is something to be proud of."

Linux on the desktop?
Linux has existed for more than a decade as an alternative to Windows for people's PCs, but so far it hasn't spread far beyond programmers and other technically advanced users. It's been held back in part by the difficulties of learning and installing new operating systems and by the lack of software such as Office, Quicken, Photoshop, and games.

Overall, Shuttleworth remains optimistic. One key to the growth among consumers will be adoption through computer manufacturers, an area where he believes the company has made progress. Dell offers Ubuntu machines. And last week, IBM announced a software package called IBM Client for Smart Work that combines Ubuntu with IBM's Lotus software suite.

So how might Linux take off as an operating system for PCs? Although Ubuntu continues to work on basics such as faster booting and better audio in version 9.10, Shuttleworth believes it'll be hard to succeed if the strategy is just to out-Microsoft Microsoft.

"I don't think it'll happen if we continue to define the desktop the way Microsoft defines the desktop," Shuttleworth said.

A better idea is to try to capture growth in new markets. "It's initiatives like Chrome OS and Moblin that hold the key, whether through the pendulum shifting irreversibly to the Web, or with new users and devices," he said. Chrome OS is Google's browser-based operating system that uses Linux under the hood; Moblin is Intel's Linux product for mobile devices built with cooperation from Canonical. "I don't think we will dislodge Microsoft from the traditional desktop."

With its Chrome browser and Chrome OS, Google seeks to push operating systems into the background; applications are Web-based rather than running on the operating system embedded beneath to handle things like communicating with a keyboard, trackpad, or screen. Shuttleworth sees Chrome OS as helpful, though, since other Linux projects could benefit from the support it will bring for technology such as wireless networking hardware.

And Shuttleworth clearly is a fanboy for some of Google's latest initiatives. "I'm fascinated by Chrome, Chrome OS, and (Google) Wave. I think they're awesome," he said.

Ubuntu One, the online storage service, could provide a bit more revenue for the company from the consumer operating-system business.

"Think of it as a drive in the sky that can replicate content across multiple machines," Shuttleworth said. "Most our users are sophisticated users. They have more than one PC and generally battle with the tension of having some content they don't want to manage on the Web but do want to have on multiple machines."

And data sync is a service that could be larger than Linux. "We expect it will span all Ubuntu devices and ultimately perhaps grow to other platforms as well," he added.

Your own private AWS
The most proven Linux market is on the server, though, where Linux is in some ways just another branch of the Unix family tree. Unix and Linux are fixtures of the server market.

Here, Canonical hopes to get ahead through the Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud technology.

The AWS Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2) provides access to raw computing power on which customers can fire up their own software from the operating system up. Those servers can store data on AWS' Simple Storage Service (S3) and tap into other AWS services. It's all paid for on the basis of how much processing power is consumed, how much storage space is needed, how much network capacity is used, and similar consumption-based pricing.

Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud is for those who want similar services on their own servers. The software interface mirrors that of AWS' EC2 and S3, so at least in principle a service that exceeds an organization's internal computing capacity could spill over to Amazon's infrastructure.

"In principle the goal is to provide API (application programming interface) compatibility," he said. Eventually, when such services reach mass-market appeal, standards will follow for controlling them, he believes: "We think eventually there will be a common IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) management protocol."

One tricky piece of engineering, though, comes through virtualization, software that lets multiple operating systems run in compartments called virtual machines on one physical computer. Amazon's EC2 uses open-source virtualization called Xen, but Ubuntu's preferred foundation is another, KVM. Ubuntu 9.10, though, will be available in a Xen-based version that works on EC2.

"It's possible to build one machine image which works in both places," Shuttleworth said. "We went to a lot of trouble to make a version for 9.10 that works on EC2."

Stephen Shankland writes about a wide range of technology and products, but has a particular focus on browsers and digital photography. He joined CNET News in 1998 and since then also has covered Google, Yahoo, servers, supercomputing, Linux and open-source software, and science. E-mail Stephen, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/stshank.
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by tektaktyks October 26, 2009 1:35 PM PDT
this one is looking good,get the live cd and check it out http://www.kubuntu.org/
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by AppleSuxLeo October 26, 2009 10:00 PM PDT
What order do I install if I want to dual-boot with Windows 7 ?
by tektaktyks October 26, 2009 10:28 PM PDT
7 first
by imafunkapotamus October 28, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
....because historically windows hasn't come with support for dual booting. I believe windows 7 finally does, but as with most prototypes is better not to trust them. Ubuntu and linux in general has supported grub for years and probably is going to be more reliable for you
by jtjt145 October 26, 2009 2:00 PM PDT
People like Mark Shuttleworth are contributing more to the benefit of the mankind's computing than greed mongers like Bill Gates and the whole bunch of Micro$oft ilk.
In my opinion this man deserves a Nobel prize.
Mark's day will come!

Never mind that the majority of computer users are still willing, if ignorant, participants of the Micro$oft tax milking scheme.

Arthur
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by Mr. Dee October 26, 2009 2:12 PM PDT
I have never heard of the Mark Shuttleworth foundation helping to find cures for diseases, build better classrooms for children to learn in, scholarships for minorities and creating thousands of jobs and ecosystem that benefits more than 1.2 billion people. Stop talking your crap and come out of the cave, you have been in there too long.
by odubtaig October 26, 2009 2:29 PM PDT
http://aroundcny.com/Technofile/texts/massa_bill.html

Yeah, real altruistic.

By the way, you have heard of the Shuttleworth Foundation, right? You know there is one?
by David Dudley October 26, 2009 3:09 PM PDT
Gates has donated lots of money to fight malaria and has had his friends do the same.

It's Steve Jobs who has not shown to publically donate any of his earnings to anything other than an apricot orchard.
by Police_States_of_America October 26, 2009 4:25 PM PDT
gates foundation does not share research, it is a business initiative.
by jmhx7 October 26, 2009 6:19 PM PDT
I've used ubuntu before. It's better than xp, but it doesn't hold a candle to vista or 7, so yes I will continue to be a willing participant of the microsoft tax milking scheme and I'll be happy doing it.
by alpeshkh October 27, 2009 1:33 AM PDT
he is doing his bit,i know he is not donating billions of dollars in charity, but he is supporting a cause that provides peoples on this planet to use and OS that is free!
by Zorben October 28, 2009 7:01 AM PDT
I absolutely agree.

Bill Gates creates, by dubious means, a monopoly and becomes one of the worlds richest men. He has so much money that we cannot comprehend then goes to Africa, a front man for pharmaceutical companies and other western companies and even his own Microsoft, not to mention his tax benefits and calls it charity. He has certainly fooled many people. His product Windows 7 will cost should I choose to buy it $399, and what for? It does the same things that I do with Ubuntu, but Ubuntu does it with much less fuss. I have given Microsoft hundreds of my dollars already and I don't intend to fund corporations and individuals like that.

Mark runs rings around Bill.
by Mr. Dee October 26, 2009 2:13 PM PDT
Ubuntu users synchronize files stored on different machines and back them up on the central service. Storage space of 2GB is free, and 50GB costs $10 per month.

Oh please, I get 25 GB's of online storage through Windows Live Skydrive for free, not a penny spent.
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by odubtaig October 26, 2009 2:27 PM PDT
Yes, you just paid upfront whether you use Skydrive or not. Po Tay To Po Tah To..
by Maclover1 October 26, 2009 2:41 PM PDT
can you sync with live drive?
by tektaktyks October 26, 2009 2:56 PM PDT
wow,i get 1,5 terabytes for $99 from newegg
by Mr. Dee October 26, 2009 4:30 PM PDT
odubtaig, non-sense, I can use Windows Live Skydrive on Windows XP, 2000, Mac OS X, Linux if I want. Please don't be this dim.
by odubtaig October 27, 2009 12:31 AM PDT
I'm not being dim, I just don't imagine you're not using Windows.
by David Dudley October 26, 2009 3:12 PM PDT
So to sum up the article: the server software has cloud capabilities akin to what Amazon offers and the desktop software can tie into Ubuntu's storage offering. Hopefully the Ubuntu offering can run Windows 2008 as Amazon does not offer this OS as an option yet.
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by casanegro October 26, 2009 7:15 PM PDT
Macs trample over Ubuntu or any Linux variant FTM anyday.
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by simple_design October 26, 2009 10:09 PM PDT
Isn't a Mac just a over-the-top, priced version of Ubuntu which both underly the Linux rules but Mac is for paying?
by Diablosblizz October 27, 2009 5:53 AM PDT
Right, you keep on thinking that.. Go research Mac you idiot. It's based off of FreeBSD, A FREE OS. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. OS X = FreeBSD.
by thydavidcome October 27, 2009 5:24 PM PDT
Mac is an overglorified Linux computer. Which is why I can't comprehend why people would pay so much for it.
by fireboy241 October 27, 2009 8:09 PM PDT
@Diablosblizz

Actually you are wrong. It comes from the Mach Kernel, coming from the Unix OS. However it takes some from FreeBSD's implementation of Unix. And Yes, I know what I'm talking about perfectly
by gezznz October 26, 2009 8:17 PM PDT
Alright you windoze and mac geeks, I've been using Ubuntu for 4 years - for all my home office work, marketing including brochures and posters, music-making and audio recording, virus-free Internet, online networking etc, etc. And I haven't spent a cent on software!

Stephen's comment on Ubuntu not having spread beyond programmers and "technically advanced" (puhleez!) users is just not true - it is by far the most popular Linux distribution on the planet. This is mainly because it is dead easy to install and use.

Serious organisations use it because it offers solid networks at a fraction of the price of windoze. Schools use it because it offers a huge range of learning and media applications, while the server -thin client solution allows them to use donated old computers for the kids. It also allows the kids under-the-bonnet views of the coding which proprietary software doesn't. Thus kids have the option to become involved in the development of software, rather than being just proprietary software consumers.

And individuals like me use Ubuntu because it makes available to me the creative power of a community of tens of thousands of software developers, creating not for their corporate bosses but for general benefit. Its an exciting community - come and join us!
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by gezznz October 26, 2009 8:44 PM PDT
As for Shuttleworth's Foundation, sure it maybe doesn't get involved in questionable mass-vaccinations for malaria, but it has made personal computing available to just about anyone on the planet, in almost every language. They will still send you a CD for free if you ask for it.
by stickfu October 27, 2009 7:07 AM PDT
@gezznz

Unfortunately Canonical is limiting the amount of free CDs they`ll be mailing..

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20091026#news

You can still get it the traditional way (download the ISO)
by Vkec October 26, 2009 8:23 PM PDT
I use Linux me personally I like it better than windows, I would use it all the time but alas there is no sound driver for my desktop. But, lets not bash either of them, here is a good side by side of Linux (not just Ubuntu) and windows 7, it is a Linux magazine website but, there aren't really biased.
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by Dan7637 October 26, 2009 8:35 PM PDT
all this hype for the cloud?

have we forgotten the sidekick debacle, google gmail down, what if you dont have an internet connection how you going to work

too much hype for "cloud"
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by ccieadvisor October 26, 2009 9:15 PM PDT
Ubuntu is great. Easier than XP. i put it on an old laptop, it instantly had all the drivers that I needed. The wireless drivers from a 4 year old laptop were preloaded on the ISO! Fantastic and I like Firefox anyways.. I am not sure about the philanthropy though. ;)
That being said, I still like my Windows 7 better.
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by JuggerNaut October 26, 2009 9:20 PM PDT
Ubuntu is WAY better than Windows hands down!
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by AppleSuxLeo October 26, 2009 10:02 PM PDT
What makes it "way better" ? I`d like to dual boot with Windows.
by Efrow October 27, 2009 8:17 AM PDT
For me, I like the following aspects:

- faster boot time (and it doesn't get slower and slower over time)
- much more configurable (I can have any look/style/feel I want in terms of pretty much everything... particularly with Kubuntu - I can configure down to how transparent I want which windows, and which effects I want, etc.)
- no worries about viruses or spyware (possible, yes... but not likely)
- lower system resources (while I'm not low on resources here, my laptop runs cooler in Linux, which means the fan runs slower, so it's quieter, and will likely last longer - for me, fans are always the first to go)
- tons of free software in the packet manager - you don't have to search on the web for it; it's all there ready to install if you want it

Other people have other reasons why it's "way better" - or their own reasons why Windows is "way better", or OS X. It's all about choice.

Having said that, you do need to make sure you have time to solve some of the little problems you might have (make sure you read the release notes). And it's not Windows, so it might take a bit of getting used to - for me, a big thing was learning where all the programs and various files are stored.
by thydavidcome October 27, 2009 5:30 PM PDT
Yea much better then Windows.

You install it, and realise "man my screen looks funny" so you have to go all over the internet finding the right driver and look at that you need to compile it. So you go all over the internet finding a simple guide, you do the steps, and its still not the correct resolution. So you need to edit the xserver files forcing it to the correct resolution. Ah 6 hours later you got a proper working GFX card.

So you go on youtube and realise oh **** your sound drivers arnt working and relise there is no drivers. Well look at that, your ******.

The entire OS has only freeware garbage that are vastly inferior to the REAL programs they mimic. No support at all. No games. No programs (that arnt freeware trash) and nothing works properly

Windows 7 is faster, significantly better looking, easier, and more reliable then Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, and Kubntu
by fireboy241 October 27, 2009 8:11 PM PDT
Dual Boot is the way to go.
by exactlyy October 26, 2009 9:36 PM PDT
photoshop still doesnt work on Ubuntu?
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by AppleSuxLeo October 26, 2009 10:04 PM PDT
I am all for Linux...after all , Android is based on Linux kernel.
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by AppleSuxLeo October 26, 2009 10:06 PM PDT
Hey...since Android syncs with the cloud , you don`t need Windows OR Mac !
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by master_mind413 October 26, 2009 10:55 PM PDT
I would try out Unbuntu ive been reading about it for a long time my biggest fear though is that i instal it and nothing i have would work on it
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by UKHacker October 27, 2009 7:06 AM PDT
Ubuntu comes as a 'live cd' this means you can run Ubuntu off the cd without it affecting your current installation so that you can try everything it has to offer before you install it. You also have the option to install Ubuntu within windows using 'Wubi' which also comes with the cd. This gives you a dual boot effect and it allows you to uninstall Ubuntu easily within windows from the 'add and remove' program.

So to sum up, you can safely try Ubuntu and see if all your devices work with it without affecting your windows installation :).
by stickfu October 27, 2009 7:16 AM PDT
You can always try it "live" before you install. Set your BIOS to boot from optical drive, fire up your computer with the Ubuntu CD in it and try it out. You can generally determine what works and what does`nt (note, good chance Ubuntu will search it`s online repository for drivers for your hardware so make sure you are connected to the internet).
by stickfu October 27, 2009 7:31 AM PDT
@UK
Great that you mentioned Wubi (forgot about that)
As well some users may want to try Linux Mint. IMO a better Ubuntu, comes with loads of media CODECS, a bit more polished and no brown (for those that hate the default color scheme)
by Kalemanzi October 27, 2009 12:40 AM PDT
Uh, pardon me.
This is nonsense: "Linux on the desktop?
Linux has existed for more than a decade as an alternative to Windows for people's PCs, but so far it hasn't spread far beyond ****programmers and other technically advanced users.**** It's been held back in part by the *****difficulties of learning and installing new operating systems**** and by the ****lack of software**** such as Office, Quicken, Photoshop, and games. "

lack of software?!! What? Photoshop runs on Wine, so if you want to use it, you can

I have been using PCLinuxOS for the last 6 years. Never had a virus, never had any spyware. I design and develop websites, encode video formats back and forth that will make any mac or windows user's head spin and I am not paying a cent. I am even running flash authoring software natively on top of linux and also have things installed like secondlife, google earth etc. Maybe the support for games are not all that great, but since when was computing all about games anyway? Several of my clients work on Linux as well and they are vey happy with it. If you want an enterprise ready operating system that does not crash for no reason all the time or get infected by malware, then you need to look no further that getting almost any distro out there, popping th live CD in there and installing it. Openoffice will cover the majority of office needs, Thunderbird can do email and firefox internet. Bob's your uncle.

Mark Shuttleworth is a Pioneer and a Visionary. I don't think money is such a great issue for him. Remember he retrenched his staff and gave them each a six zero incentive and paid his own way to travel in space. So if you achieved that at such a young age, and you choose to devote yourself to a project like Ubuntu, don't you think he put some thought into that before he did it?
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by bit-tastic October 27, 2009 2:15 AM PDT
Linux is great if you don't want to play games made solely for Microsoft. It's excellent if you take into consideration that there may not be drivers available for your top of the line devices. Wonderful if you're bitter about Windows and Apple's business practices and refuse to give them any of your money (yet run to Walmart the next time you need tube socks)...

it's just a great month to be a computer user, regardless of your choices and convictions.
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by BoneheadBarbarian October 27, 2009 3:44 AM PDT
yea much easier to do windows first. Linux boot manager (Grub) will give you the windows option but if you install windows 2nd the windows boot manager won't give you linux option
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by 3rdalbum October 27, 2009 3:48 AM PDT
I can say with confidence: If you can install and use Microsoft Windows, you can install and use Ubuntu.

Even if you can't install and configure Windows from scratch, you are probably quite likely to be able to install Ubuntu.

Ubuntu is not hard to use. On the whole, as easy as Windows (possibly easier - I've barely used Windows and I find it hard). Most hardware works out-of-the-box or can be made to work, and what doesn't work can usually be replaced with eBay for something that will.

The only two barriers are that a lot of Windows users have made themselves dependent on proprietary Windows-only software, and a lot of people don't want to learn the differences between Ubuntu and Windows. Ubuntu does things differently to Windows and Macintosh; for instance, you find and install software with a package manager, not by surfing the web for software that will hopefully not contain viruses. Another example: Drives are not referenced by "drive letters" like C:\; they are mounted as part of the filesystem. You open a folder on the filesystem, and there's the contents of your drive.

In short, Linux is different to Windows. You will need to do some learning. But it's been shown time and time again: If you can use Windows, you can use Linux. You just need to learn the difference.
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by thydavidcome October 27, 2009 5:32 PM PDT
No, its not easier, I and thousands of other people have nothing but driver issues, random crashes, etc.

Plus there is no programs on Linux (that arnt **** freeware)
by rage6060 October 27, 2009 6:03 AM PDT
This is an insteresting change of how there Enterprise server tier will work. Can't wait to see what happends.
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by jinsyracuse October 27, 2009 6:59 AM PDT
People miss out on so many of the benefits of Ubuntu or any Linux variant because they are not willing to learn something new. One of the biggest advantages is the reduced cost of technology in our homes. Not having drivers for the very latest hardware is never a concern for me. Ubuntu runs on my old hardware at a level of performance and trust that I never had with a Windows OS. The greatest advantage is trusting the OS to do what you expect it to. If I am copying a 60GB file while burning a DVD, working on a document in Open Office, looking up information on Google and running Windows XP in VirtualBox so I can sync my iPhone, I know all of these tasks will complete as they should. Yup, my old P4 3Ghz with 1024MB of ram slows down, but everything gets done.

All of my software, drivers and updates come from the same place. Centrally managed. No hunting down drivers or software updates on the Internet. I do not see 10 different pices of software asking for an update in the task bar. Software is installed and updated without a restart. Updates are typically very small. 50 updates will typically take less than a minute to download and install.

Console that has some use! Everyone is so skeptical of the console. This is where everything gets done and done quickly. If I want to sort through a folder of 6,000 pictures and pull out just the ones shot with a Nikon in the month of May and copy them to another folder and change the size to 1024x768 as the maximum I can with one typed out command. If you want to do the same on your computer I can share the instructions with you in a one line email. No instructions that start with "click on... then click...". If you want help with adding a user or changing file permissions or controlling how USB handles a device or maybe changing the configuration of a program, all of this community support can copy and pasted into a console and done easily.

It does take time to learn new habits and software. Get started!
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by bit-tastic October 27, 2009 11:12 AM PDT
You're missing the point that people don't want to learn anything new. They don't want to have to know any more than they're familiar with, especially if they don't choose to have anything more to do with computers beyond checking their mail, logging into Facebook, and doing some sort of work. Sure you can do all those things on Ubuntu, but if the user has to do any more than what they're familiar and comfortable with, they're not going to be happy. I work support on a variety of things from software to networking to websites and people get frazzled over the simplest of things -- especially if they have to figure something out. That's why they spend at least $1000 more than they need to on Macs.

Depressing, isn't it?
by Dalkorian October 27, 2009 5:00 PM PDT
Funny you should mention old hardware, my box has an old Creative 48X CD-ROM in the spare slot that hasn't worked since ex-pee sp2, but works perfectly to this day in Ubuntu.
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