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September 24, 2009 8:17 AM PDT

Gmail outage hits 'small subset of users'

by Stephen Shankland
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Gmail was unavailable Thursday morning for what Google said was a "small subset of users," the latest outage from a company that prides itself in running advanced computing systems.

On the Google Apps status dashboard, the company said at 7:29 a.m. PDT that it was aware of the problem. However, using IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol) to access e-mail through software such as Outlook or Thunderbird still works, the company said.

Even a small subset can be a lot of people, though, as carping on Twitter indicates.

Gmail outages hit Google itself sometimes, providing extra incentive to improve reliability. One company spokesman, Adam Kovacevich, said on Twitter, "Gmail down (for Googlers too)."

Google had Gmail outages in February, April, and very widely on September 1.

Gmail was working for me Thursday morning, but slowly and without access to my contacts at 8 a.m. PDT. By 8:13 a.m., it was behaving properly.

Updated 9:15 a.m. PDT - Many users are reporting that their e-mail is back to normal, but there are still problems with Gmail contacts. Google posted the following advisory at 8:29 a.m. PDT.

"The Gmail issue should now be resolved for most of our users. There still might be issues with your contacts. For Gmail users: Use www.google.com/contacts to access your contacts For Google Apps Customers: www.google.com/contacts/a/yourdomain-name.com."

Updated 9:54 a.m. PDT - Google asked for more time before it feels ready to declare an all-clear. "We are continuing to investigate this issue. We will provide an update by September 24, 2009 10:30:00 AM UTC-7 detailing when we expect to resolve the problem."

Updated 10:10 a.m. PDT - It's now safe to return to your computer, according to Google. "The problem with Google Mail should be resolved. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience and continued support."

Tom Krazit contributed to this report.

The Google Apps status dashboard flagged the Gmail problem Thursday morning.

The Google Apps status dashboard flagged the Gmail problem Thursday morning.

(Credit: Screenshot by Stephen Shankland/CNET)
Stephen Shankland writes about a wide range of technology and products, but has a particular focus on browsers and digital photography. He joined CNET News in 1998 and since then also has covered Google, Yahoo, servers, supercomputing, Linux and open-source software, and science. E-mail Stephen, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/stshank.
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by totorototoro September 24, 2009 8:28 AM PDT
"small subset of users" ?
And I just happened to be stuck in that small subset both times now? Right.
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by BelkyB September 24, 2009 9:34 AM PDT
Anyone who uses a free service like Gmail deserves this!

People ought to own their own email addresses. Otherwise, you are at the mercy of Google.

Buy your own domain and your own service. At least you own it then!

But hey, maybe Gmail is just for the sheep! The shepherds already know this.
by farker1 September 24, 2009 1:12 PM PDT
i got hit by both too.
by Mr. Dee September 24, 2009 8:37 AM PDT
Sorry, but not matter what Google says, compared to Gmail, a Microsoft Exchange Server doesn't go down this much.
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by Squashman2 September 24, 2009 8:48 AM PDT
That is like comparing Apples to Oranges!
by tracyallenparks September 24, 2009 8:49 AM PDT
you must not use an exchange server or you are not IT that fixes an exchange server twice or more times a day.
by NYTechie September 24, 2009 8:38 AM PDT
Yeah me too--chat and contacts are out so I'm having to guess E-mail addresses. VERY convenient. Ugh.
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by illil0 September 24, 2009 8:39 AM PDT
I still have that message on the top of my Gmail telling me that I might trouble accessing my contacts. Everything else seems to work though.
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by nttwrs September 24, 2009 8:45 AM PDT
it appears the bigger problem is accessing contacts - based on twitter and other news stories - and that obviously affects the ability to chat, as well as email
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by giodude82 September 24, 2009 8:46 AM PDT
gmail being down is a real pain for me, but I have to say it usually works great and in my experience it's the best FREE e-mail service around...
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by T_Tran September 24, 2009 8:53 AM PDT
So how am I going to get through work today without chatting to all my buddies???????
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by NYTechie September 24, 2009 9:26 AM PDT
EXACTLY! :-)
by El_Gringo_Guapo September 24, 2009 8:58 AM PDT
Thanks Google, I was in the middle of e-mailing my professor....
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by El_Gringo_Guapo September 24, 2009 9:00 AM PDT
(sorry, hit submit by accident)

....e-mailing my professor through our Gmail-sponsored campus e-mail system. I hate Gmail, I only use it b/c our campus is set up w/ it for ALL student accounts.
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by ak919 September 24, 2009 9:00 AM PDT
how dare they claim that the outage is over when I still can't access my emails!!!???
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by ralfthedog September 24, 2009 11:56 AM PDT
Send them an email and they will fix your account. Please remember to send it from the account that is not working.
by Wallethead September 24, 2009 9:01 AM PDT
Gmail is still down for me. I didn't get hit with the last outage but this small subset of users happens to be me this time and it sucks.
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by sfhydenoe September 24, 2009 9:02 AM PDT
I'm still not able to access Contacts, nor use Gmail chat...I don't think this is anywhere near a 'small subset'.
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by ÆL September 24, 2009 9:12 AM PDT
Yeah, I have contacts out. Chat seems to be working on a very limited basis.
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by zmjman08 September 24, 2009 9:22 AM PDT
here we go again...
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by vamman September 24, 2009 9:22 AM PDT
Gmail is down for me.
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by PaveAleksandrov September 24, 2009 9:27 AM PDT
I still have problem sometimes I can't login and I don't have contacts
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by chrisatyoursix September 24, 2009 9:29 AM PDT
Google needs to focus on making existing products STABLE before trying to come up with MORE products. SideWiki is a good example of misused attention when the day after it's launch we have another round of Gmail problems.
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by hybucket1 September 24, 2009 9:30 AM PDT
The mail itself is working...chat is out, contacts are out (but can be reached at google.com/contacts) and the AOL buddy list chat is not working as well. 12:30 on the East...been down for over 2 hours, sporadically.
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by softshell September 24, 2009 9:31 AM PDT
I look forward to the smug, dimissive non-explanation from Google's gmail manager. Bonus points for discussing how quickly Google identified the problem.
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by U. Tripps September 24, 2009 9:34 AM PDT
I was in the subset. Just reinforces my view that if a service is critical to your business operations, you should expect to pay for that service and have a way to enforce damages if the service goes down.

Gmail is free. And while it really, really annoys me when it goes down, I have no real right to expect perfect and continuous uptime from a free service.
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