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November 5, 2009 4:00 AM PST

Google tries its own take on customer service

by Tom Krazit
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How will Google manage growing demand for support for its free products, as people rely more and more on its services?

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If you rely on a compelling service that happens to be free, what level of customer support are you entitled to receive?

Google is trying to figure that out. Known for using brilliant engineers, complex algorithms and speedy servers to organize online information in a simple and accessible fashion, Google is learning how to add the human touch to its repertoire as customers look for answers that can't be found on an FAQ.

Not surprisingly, not everyone is happy with the results. Some advertisers have been complaining about Google's Web-page-first approach to customer service issues for years, with the most common gripe that they find it exceedingly difficult to reach a real live human being when they have a problem that isn't answered on a product Web page. More recently, Katie Braband, who reported problems with Google Checkout's handling of transactions at her company, Datto, was just as frustrated by Google's response to her issues as she was the issues themselves. "The only e-mails we've received response to are pre-generated, it's very clear there's no person writing the e-mail," she said in September.

Google is aware that customer service will play a large role in its growth as it offers more paid services, and seems committed to improving services for those kinds of customers over time. "The first thing a CIO is going to say is, 'where is that person and how do I wring their neck?'" said Google CEO Eric Schmidt in an interview earlier this year. Schmidt knows a thing or two about traditional enterprise customer service: he ran corporate software maker Novell before joining Google. And before Novell, he was an executive at Sun Microsystems.

For many users of Google's free services, support is limited to a series of Web pages, FAQs, and user forums. That's not that surprising, since Google can't realistically offer phone support to every Gmail user who can't figure out the conversation-based design.

But as Google continues to push forward with free advertising-supported services that people and small businesses increasingly rely on in their personal and professional lives, the company appears to be banking on its ability to train those users to expect a healthy dose of relatively low-cost support. Web pages with hints, troubleshooting tips, and discussion forums are the first level of support across virtually all of Google's products and are pretty much the end of the line for those who do not pay to use products or services. That's not unusual in technology; even businesses that charge customers for their products have moved in that direction in a bid to cut support costs.

When it comes to Google's main profit engine--the AdWords search keyword ads--there are two basic kinds of customer service, said Deanna Yick, a Google representative. High-roller customers enjoy access to a personal sales team they can reach out and call, but almost everyone else relies on Web-based resources like the AdWords Help Center.

For a while, Google also offered phone support to a proportion of those advertisers without sales team connections. However, it recently reduced the amount of phone support it provides for those not supported by the sales team, leaving e-mail as the sole contact method for a larger segment (Google won't say exactly how many) of its most important customers.

"AdWords is an effective, self-service online advertising platform for advertisers of all sizes worldwide," Google said in a statement regarding the reduction in phone support. "Some clients work with our sales teams, while others prefer to manage their accounts independently. We also provide email and phone support to some advertisers, and have worked hard to build out a robust set of online resources (such as the AdWords Help Center, AdWords Learning Center and user forums) to help advertisers find the answers to their questions around the clock wherever they might be located."

Is this an issue? Google argues that in many cases e-mail and Web support can be faster than sitting on hold waiting for the next customer service representative to answer your call in the order in which it was received. The company can track the most common queries and therefore answer the most commonly asked questions on the Web much more quickly than a telephone-based system would allow, while also developing fixes for commonly reported problems as to cut down on the need for support in the first place.

But on the Google Apps side of the world, the company knows it doesn't have the luxury of pulling back on phone support with its most important customers, said Matthew Glotzbach, director of product management for Google Enterprise.

Here, as well, Google tries to encourage its users to solve their issues through forums and troubleshooting pages. It turns to the solution Google employs for just about everything--an algorithm--to get the most relevant information regarding support issues on those pages and before the people who need detailed answers, and fast.

But Google Apps Premium users--who pay $50 a year per user--can also talk to live Google support personnel anytime day or night when they encounter issues. Years of phone-based IT support has trained system administrators and IT executives to expect the human touch when it comes to advanced support, Glotzbach said, echoing Schmidt's comments last month.

Glotzbach--like any true Googler--believes there are efficiencies just waiting to be discovered that could be greatly improve the customer support experience for both Google and its customers.

"I think this is a fascinating technology and innovation challenge that's properly underappreciated as such," Glotzbach said. "When people think of support, they think of large call centers. But underneath that there is a massive opportunity to innovate." Left unmentioned were the cost savings that accompany automated support.

With innovation comes friction, however, as new ways of thinking about old problems grate on the status quo.

Google is pushing into a whole host of businesses in which it is a newcomer, such as Google Apps, Google Voice, and now Google Maps Navigation. In many cases, those products are free, which reduces expectations for premium support (usually). But those products compete against paid products and services that do provide some level of support.

As more and more people rely on these free services--and Google crowds out competitors who can't compete with free--support issues will grow. Even products that "just work" fail from time to time, and those failures present opportunities for companies to build loyalty if they handle the support encounter the right way, and resentment if they don't.

Can Google train those customers to expect a passive Web-based support experience? Or will Google's free strategy evolve into two groups, those willing to tolerate passive support for free, and those willing to pay a little extra for more service?

Either way, managing the customer experience has been a relatively easy task for Google up until now; basic search requires little customer support. It's about to get a lot more difficult.

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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by DesktopIntegration November 5, 2009 4:36 AM PST
I think the solution, or at least a big part of it, is simpler than organizations like Google think.

If Eric Schmidt and his team at Google would actually pay more attention and become a part of the discussions on the forums when major issues arise, then I think "customers" would be much happier. As it is today, almost without exception, people who take the time to document and post major issues to forums are your champions and yet it is seen as a one-way-street. I post major issues to forums (recently to VMware for severe performance bugs after upgrading to Fusion 3.0 and to Apple for a reproducible bug in Mac Mail that can result in the wrong email being put into a "forward" message) and yet, there are no responses from VMware or Apple, DESPITE the fact others are posting agreement or they have the same issues.

This is a cheap/low cost support option for Google, Apple, VMware and yet people like me will eventually say, "why bother posting", no one is listening!

We don't want fixes, only to know, someone at these companies is listening and respectful of the time and energy we spend on being their QA and testers.

My 2 cents.


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by heygeo November 5, 2009 10:38 AM PST
2 cents..... you get what you pay for
by aMUSICsite November 5, 2009 4:55 AM PST
I think Apple has one of the best solutions (and reputations) in this field. It's big success is the apple discussions / forums section. It's well laid out easy to use and 9/10 times you can find the answer to your problems, or at least find other people with the same problem.
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by abcd9009 November 5, 2009 8:12 AM PST
@aMUSICsite

By the way we are talking about enterprise users and unlike consumers they don't care about forums or discussions. That's what separates enterprise users from consumers. As an enterprise user if I am paying double as compared to what a consumer pays I better get a live person on support.
by Vegaman_Dan November 5, 2009 8:20 AM PST
Be advised that Apple's primary method to deal with issues in forums that might be embarassing to the company's reputation or expose any problems is to simply delete the forum thread and pretend it never happened.

But thankfully there's usually a bunch of threads going on at once so as soon as Apple closes / deletes one thread, there's a couple of others that have answers from other users available before that one too is deleted. You just have to keep refreshing the page and be quick in your reading.
by aMUSICsite November 5, 2009 8:26 AM PST
@abcd9009

Not sure what your source is but I know many enterprise users that find solutions to problems on forums and discussion boards. Maybe not the fat person that spends most of their time complaining on the phone and going to business lunches, but certainly anyone with an ounce of technical know-how can find most of their business solutions online.

It is always nice to be able to talk to a real person if you hit a brick wall but email, instant chat and the like can be just as good as a phone call, after all it's not the form of communication that's usually the problem, it's the quality of the support staff at finding the source of the problem and fixing it.

Google's email support worked fine when we were having problems with one of their search server where I work.
by david Orr November 5, 2009 6:20 AM PST
new e mail address daveorr@talktalk.net
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by alan_06 November 5, 2009 6:34 AM PST
You can spend millions in support automation but I don't think it can match the support by real person. I guess Google never heard of the famous 'RTFM' word in software support. No one has the time to read thru all those guides.

This has always been a negative aspect of the opensource/free software support. Forums are great but not for ones who need quick help and are ready to pay for the support.

I've seen users often lured to software products look and feel, everything goes fine until they hit some issue and realize they're in the middle of desert. Result, they go a less featured product that at least provides a good support.

Why not have a paid package only for the support?
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by Silver_2000 November 5, 2009 6:39 AM PST
The Postini Install guide is a 600 plus page sales brochure pdf

The amount of real info in there is spread quite wide and some of the info is out of date, but they have no worries about updating it.
by tomws November 5, 2009 9:21 AM PST
@alan_06: "You can spend millions in support automation but I don't think it can match the support by real person."

You haven't dealt with idiot script readers from India lately, have you?
by Silver_2000 November 5, 2009 6:37 AM PST
Even Google enterprise support leaves a lot to be desired. Postini Customers can expect to be told to read the documentation or create a batch command to fix their own issues. If they have problems at 8:01 pm on a Friday they will be told to wait till Monday for help. Which puts a hurt on any weekend change requests. Apparently in Google's world everything is done live during working hours

The sales peoples ability to twist the truth or sell features that are not documented anywhere is legendary. " The FAQ says that wont work " " Oh dont worry thats an old document"

Be VERY careful with Google
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by bsharkey November 5, 2009 6:54 AM PST
wow extraordinary stuff.

even our smallish enterprise uses a google search appliance plus Postini. and these are only the ones I know of off the top of my head (I don't work in the centralized IT dept), so I'm not sure about any others.

I've had similar experience as yours with support desks for licensed software though. something goes wrong on a Friday evening?? too bad!
by bsharkey November 5, 2009 6:43 AM PST
Google? what customer service? do humans even work there?

I'd never put my business in the hands of something like this. to some degree, I've been surprised people even rely on them for POP e-mail, and their recent troubles with reliability highlighted why this wasn't necessarily the sharpest idea. a) there's no one to complain to b) if something goes really, really wrong, you really have practically no recourse (i.e. in recovering damages)
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by jessiethe3rd November 5, 2009 7:59 AM PST
Unfortunately - a lonnng way from Enterprise Ready. Give us some Enterprise products outside of Postini.
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by rolodexter November 5, 2009 8:11 AM PST
Isn't this what the peer help forums do?
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by heygeo November 5, 2009 10:44 AM PST
i dont know f a single IT group who has the cycles to qualify the multitude of solutions you may find that *MIGHT* work from forums, this is why enterprise customers spend millions of dollars on support contracts.
by Vegaman_Dan November 5, 2009 8:22 AM PST
"High-roller customers enjoy access to a personal sales team they can reach out and call, but almost everyone else relies on Web-based resources like the AdWords Help Center."

That says pretty much all you need to know about Customer Service at Google. If you're a big company with a lot of money, then you get service. If not, then you get pushed aside as a second class citizen.
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by masonx November 5, 2009 11:33 AM PST
Forums are great ways to solve some "how to" issues. However, when I see the same buggy software generation after generation - when I see poorer and poorer software instruction and guides - I get the message. No one gives a damn about customers after they make their purchase. The problem unaddressed software errors and the industry deniability are endemic to the software industry at large. The bigger the company the worse the problem are. I see it in Apple, I see it in MS and all the rest. We need more competition with the major software programs and critical customers that will take their business and purchases to a competitor if their problems are not addressed in a timely manner.
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by Vegaman_Dan November 5, 2009 12:34 PM PST
Forums are great for peer to peer solutions, anecdotal situations, or anything else that is coming from end users and not the OEM. The most important thing to remember is that anything you find in a forum is *not supported* by that OEM.

It's purely at your own risk sort of thing. If it doesn't work, don't complain to the OEM about it.
by ofmyony November 5, 2009 12:46 PM PST
They should have a pay model for extreme cases where an individual requires personal assistance. Example accessing their account if they have been locked out. This would be good for Google and the consumer.

If I desperately need assistance and can't get help there is a problem and if I am willing to pay for help I should be allowed that opportunity. Just because a service is free doesn't mean the help needs to be free. There needs to be a balance and right now I think Google could be doing more to support it's users.
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by briantokyo November 5, 2009 1:35 PM PST
Support for their free services? I'd be happy if they at least supported users of paid services; I had to use the BBB recently to reclaim a bill from Google over a service they didn't deliver and to which they offered no support at all, treating paying customers equally bad as free ones.
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by JessicaInPink November 5, 2009 2:28 PM PST
We have already sold our souls to Google. Let's just bow down before them now.

It just shows how dumb and blind the average American is. We have completely surrendered to what will become a great evil for us all, Google.

Google controls our privacy, our email, our Internet, soon 100% of our computers. Up next will be the Google bank account and the Google health plan... just watch!

We give WAY too much to Google! We NEED to STOP being BLIND SHEEP!
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by sundance808 November 5, 2009 4:53 PM PST
Good for google for at least trying... my company pays Amazon Web Services (aka AWS) for their cloud sevices and we learned the hard way not to expect any decent and timely support unless we pay extra for 'premium support' -- you have to dish out an extra $400 a month for that or a percentage of your monthly fee whichever is higher.. one would think that there's a 'regular support' say a turn around of 2-3 hours or so but there's none.
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by Bill_I November 5, 2009 8:14 PM PST
If you want to talk to a real person in North America, why do you have listen to distorted music, periodically interrupted with canned prattle which asserts "your call is very important, blah-blah" ??? ---- It would be very simple to rewire things using caller ID or you enter your callback number, then they would CALL YOU BACK when staff is free. --- This is so obvious as to be a no-brainer.
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