October 14, 2009 4:00 AM PDT

Call it a comeback? Google earnings due

by Tom Krazit
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With the online ad business appearing to have collected itself at the bottom of the ravine, all eyes will be on Google's earnings report Thursday to see if it has figured out where the path back to the top starts.

Investors are feeling good about Google in the run-up to Thursday's third-quarter earnings conference call, sending the stock to a 52-week high on Tuesday at $527.46 before it settled back down to $526.11 at the close of trading. Five prominent financial analysts raised their expectations for Google's stock Monday amid a collective feeling that advertisers have started to finally increase their spending after sitting on their wallets for about a year.

Last week Google CEO Eric Schmidt said that not only are things picking up in the U.S., but Europe has started to get its groove back ahead of the expected timeline. Google sales representatives gathered in New York last week were said to be "very, very positive."

As a whole, the financial community is expecting Google to record $4.23 billion in net revenue--gross revenue minus traffic acquisition costs paid to Google partners--and earnings per share of $5.39 for the period that ended in September. That would imply a revenue increase of 4 percent compared to last year, a far cry from the numbers Google used to put up but in line with its recessionary performance.

Sentiment is growing, however, that those expectations could be conservative coming off a rough year. Both Goldman Sachs and UBS cited increased activity from advertisers in raising their price targets on Google's stock Monday, to $585 and $580, respectively, according to Tech Trader Daily. Goldman said that advertising spending has increased in certain areas, such as travel and clothing, and UBS thinks Google is getting better pricing on clicks as demand once again stirs for search keywords.

Google certainly hasn't lost much steam in its core market. Its share of the U.S. search market remained relatively flat at about 64 percent of the market over the period in question, according to ComScore. Despite a huge marketing push from Microsoft around the launch of Bing, most of Microsoft's gains seem to have come at the expense of its proposed partner--Yahoo--as well as the also-rans of the search market.

The other good thing for Google is that even if search growth in the U.S. continues to creep along--up just 3 percent from July to August--the worldwide growth in search queries is quite strong, giving the company some room to grow revenue. Revenue from outside the U.S. made up 53 percent of the company's second-quarter revenue, although competition is tougher for Google outside its home country, especially in fast-growing China.

Citigroup's Mark Mahaney, speaking to MarketWatch earlier this week, described search advertising as one of the more resilient forms of advertising during a slump, and as such is also one of the first places where companies will want to put their money as budgets loosen. That means Google's results--if the optimists win the day--will be held up as the start of the online advertising recovery as well as a sign that the rest of the industry still has a ways to go.

Longer term, however, Google needs to make something else pay off beyond its search juggernaut if it wants to sustain long-term growth, Mahaney said. Google has made some progress in the last quarter on some of those areas, launching a revamped display ad exchange (although that came too late in the quarter to have much of an effect), signing deals with several partners for Android phones, and increasing the number of ads and content partnerships shown on YouTube.

This is still a company that gets the vast majority of its revenue from search advertising, however: none of those other businesses (save display ads) has the nearly the same kind of direct effect on Google's bottom line that its search ad business produces.

It's unclear whether Google is prepared to provide more color on the profitability of these other businesses, especially YouTube. The company willingly paid about $1 billion more than its own internal valuation to get its hands on YouTube, but while Google executives have hinted they are getting close, there's still no indication that YouTube has approached the break-even point three years after its acquisition.

YouTube profitability was "a high priority" for Google in 2008, but once the ad market collapsed in late 2008 that goal fell by the wayside. Now, as ad revenue shows signs of potential revival and now that Google has a better system for matching display ad buyers and sellers, it stands to reason that YouTube profitability is once again at the top of Schmidt's priorities.

Following the presentation of the financial results, expect Schmidt to face several questions about the vacancy on Google's board of directors, following Art Levinson's decision to end his dual role on both Google and Apple's board by stepping down from Google's board on Monday. Levinson's departure followed Schmidt's departure from Apple's board a few months ago in the wake of an FTC inquiry over the shared roles, which seems to have been closed following Levinson's move.

Google still faces government scrutiny in other areas, such as its hiring practices and its Google Books settlement with authors and publishers. Google is currently reworking the terms of the settlement to satisfy the concerns of the U.S. Department of Justice, and has been ordered to produce a revamped deal by November 9.

But for the most part, Google's Thursday afternoon appears to be shaping up as a hopeful sign that while the pace of economic recovery in the tech industry may be slow, is it recovering.

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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by tyshockner October 14, 2009 8:30 AM PDT
Google has become EVIL. It has become to big and ever since I heard it filters results I have stopped using it all together. So far Bing is working great, I also use Dogpile.com which goes through them all.

If only a company would come along and make a formidable Gmail alternative then I would be completely rid of them.
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by spitbucket October 14, 2009 9:00 AM PDT
Not as EVIL as Microsoft though. Bing is good but I hate their noisy page, I still prefer to search on the clean page of the lesser evil.
by naterandrews October 14, 2009 9:50 AM PDT
So, you simply dislike Google because they've done their legally required duty of removing ONE website (hardly "filtering") that is proven to spawn theft? Read my comment below..

I hope you enjoy DogPile, but try to be more informed in the future. Google is hardly as evil as everyone makes them out to be; and without them, Microsoft would be pushing stale technology upon the internet for another 15 years..
by tyshockner October 14, 2009 12:43 PM PDT
@naterandrews

TPB is just one example. Anyways, the whole point im trying to make is not to just rely on one service. It's just one piece of it. By the way I am loving dogpile because it uses: Ask, Yahoo, Google, Bing etc... I know out of all the major players I will find what I am looking for.

No matter what the actions of a certain company are, once the company hits a certain size it's nudge will become a shove.
by t8 October 14, 2009 3:44 PM PDT
Just because someone becomes big, it doesn't make them evil. If that was the case, then the USA would be evil.
And, I would much rather have Google as the no1 Internet company than Microsoft, Yahoo, or Apple.
Google is the best thing that ever happened to the Internet, with the exception perhaps for the browser. That said, Chrome is the best browser.

As a web publisher, Google is my best web friend.
by naterandrews October 14, 2009 9:47 AM PDT
I'm getting sick of people complaining about so called "filtered results" from Google. If you are referring to the who Pirate Bay debacle, guess what- they received a DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) Take-Down Notice, which required that Google removed TPB from all searches. Is it Google's fault that the Take-Down Notice was erroneous? No. They did what was legally required from them.

If the only "evil" you have against Google is that they did what they are legally required to do- then that's nothing compared to Microsoft. I think people should stop running their mouths and inform themselves before they go off spouting bs and being narrow-minded because everyone else is saying one thing "Google filters everything, oh no!".

Comparing Apples to Apples, Microsoft ran numerous competitors out of the market, they use their ad subsidies to force compliance with "partners", they have one of the largest lobbyist firms working to advance their private agenda on the public stage, and continuously push out buggy products to consumers in hopes of fixing it later. Not evil enough for you? They are working harder and harder to push for H-1B Visas, and in effect taking work away from the American people. Take your pic on what they've done wrong, but I'm sure that Microsoft- the empire that everyone loves to hate, is FAR more evil than Google.

At least Google attained their monopoly based on consumer CHOICE, you cannot say that about Microsoft. I'll take Google over a proven bastard of a company Microsoft any day..
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by loose_screw October 14, 2009 11:09 AM PDT
Well said, Nate. I don't understand all the hate toward Google. It's a free product; don't use it if you don't like it. People have spoken, and Google is the search leader due to popular demand--no one strong armed them into using the search engine. If you'd rather give your business to Microsoft because you think they're less evil, what the hell are you smoking?

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Foremski/?p=868

For the record, I welcome Bing as competition to Google as it will spur them to continue improving. I just wish Microsoft would do the same thing with hotmail. The spam filters suck, they attach ads to my outgoing emails, and delete my inbox if I don't log in for 90 days. ***? I have none of those issues with Gmail.
by loose_screw October 14, 2009 11:10 AM PDT
P.S., CNET is censoring the W-T-F acronym now? Lame!
by Police_States_of_America October 14, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
@ loose_screw

be careful or you might get banned. free press doesnt seem to like free speech much these days.
by October 14, 2009 11:22 AM PDT
good, maybe now my adsense earnings of a nickle a day will go back to over $5 a day - greedy bastards
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by t8 October 14, 2009 4:23 PM PDT
Or maybe you need more traffic.
by bhushanPawa October 14, 2009 1:26 PM PDT
really <u>excited</u> to see the <b>results</b><br/>
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