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September 29, 2009 8:00 AM PDT

Google Wave ready for wider testing

by Tom Krazit
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Google Wave is ready for wider testing.

(Credit: Screenshot by Rafe Needleman/CNET)

Google Wave is ready for its next step: a more thorough test of its scalability and stability as more than 100,000 new users crowd onto the service.

As promised, Google plans to open Google Wave beyond an extremely limited preview on Wednesday, granting access to users who have signed up in hopes of getting a chance to try the service. Google received more than 1 million requests to participate in the preview, said Lars Rasmussen, engineering manager for Google Wave, and while it won't be able to accommodate all those requests on Wednesday it is at least ready to begin the next phase of the project.

Google Wave is an attempt to re-engineer Internet communication, blending elements of e-mail, instant messaging, social networking, and workplace collaboration software into a single Web application. It was first unveiled at Google I/O in May before Web developers who were a bit dazzled by the possible uses of the technology.

At present, however, Google Wave is one big bug bash, perhaps half a year away from launching as a stable product. Google engineers have solved many of the more persistent bugs that were hampering the product a few months ago, but there is still a long way to go and Wave should not be considered anything but a "preview," Rasmussen said. Still, that's better than "developer preview," the status previously attached to Wave that implied only hardcore techies should venture within.

In addition to the developers and waiting list, Google also plans to open Wave up to a limited number of Google Apps enterprise customers for testing, Rasmussen said. A few companies, such as SAP and Salesforce.com, have already started playing around with the technology but Google is seeking feedback from other organizations on how Wave might work within their environment.

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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by forever4now September 29, 2009 8:36 AM PDT
It would be nice, if Google could create a read-only "guest" account. This would:

1. allow people beyond the 100K limit to at least be able to check Wave out.
2. allow people/developers to see some of the cool things that can be done with HTML5.

I doubt it will happen, so I guess I'll just have to wait like everyone else...
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by mbenedict September 30, 2009 10:24 AM PDT
I've been testing Wave for awhile as a developer and it's pretty cool, but far away from being ready for prime time.

I think it's good that they're rolling this out slowly... otherwise the user experience would just be terrible and might backfire on Google.
by khoivu4477 September 29, 2009 8:38 AM PDT
hmm, I would like to be in that 100,000 users who can preview this interesting software. However, it would be more effective if I can test it with friends, coallegues or family
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by zshazz September 29, 2009 9:09 AM PDT
Well, according to other sources, Google will give each of these 100k users 8 invites. So that would indeed be possible.
by knowles2 September 29, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
If that the cast then is not the actual number on testing going to be closer to 900,000 then. This was similar to what they did to google. I guest there will places where you will be able to trade for accounts.

Anyway I am hoping I am one of the lucky ones.
by Hunnter2k3 September 29, 2009 9:05 AM PDT
Signed up ages ago and so hoping to get in.
I'll test the ^%~! out of this!

I'm just hoping one of my friends gets in as well, it would be a bit pointless if they never.
I should hope they are taking this in to consideration when adding new people, unless of course they have an "Invite Your Friend" like they did back with Gmail.
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by khoivu4477 September 29, 2009 9:10 AM PDT
How does google select 100K out of a million?
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by fidodogbreath September 29, 2009 9:10 AM PDT
Think about how much personal information Google Wave users are handing Google:
* Phone numbers and other contact info for all of your friends, family, and business associates.
* The incoming phone numbers of everyone who calls you.
* Your opinion of all of these people (based on group classifications, whether you listen to their voicemails, etc.).
* The contents of all of your SMS messages, which are sent in clear text.
* The ability to monitor all of your incoming and outgoing voice calls & messages (in order to provide you with relevant advertising content, of course).
* The ability to combine all of the above with the contents of your email (if you use Gmail), your search history (which is retained when you are logged into any Google service), your news preferences, etc. etc.

So...still think Google Wave is "free?"
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by Hunnter2k3 September 29, 2009 9:21 AM PDT
Who really cares besides people who live a lie anyway?
If you have to hide things from anyone, it is quite sad, actually.
by techman21 September 29, 2009 9:29 AM PDT
I agree this is disconcerting - in addition to logging your searches and scanning your email (Gmail), now Google will have access to all your personal contacts and communications. It's a bit much I think.
by techman21 September 29, 2009 9:30 AM PDT
You don't have to have 'something to hide' - maybe some of us just like having our privacy (as much as it's possible these days).
by fidodogbreath September 29, 2009 9:53 AM PDT
> Who really cares besides people who live a lie anyway?

Enjoy the brave new world, then.
by tapakip September 29, 2009 10:08 AM PDT
No one says you have to use it. You'll never have more choices of different products than you do on the internet.
by Police_States_of_America September 29, 2009 10:13 AM PDT
as long as google isnt handing this info over the government without warrants (well to be honest i still mind it but what can they do?) or selling it directly to advertisers or handing it out then you cant complain. your phone company has the same records as google would.
by Hunnter2k3 September 29, 2009 10:36 AM PDT
>You don't have to have 'something to hide' - maybe some of us just like having our privacy (as much as it's possible these days).
Still hiding something you don't want others to see, no matter what spin you put on it.

>I agree this is disconcerting - in addition to logging your searches and scanning your email (Gmail), now Google will have access to all your personal contacts and communications. It's a bit much I think.
Logging can be turned off and cookies blocked.
Gmail scanning emails is client-end.
They ALREADY have access to your personal contacts and communication.
Gmail isn't some magical thing on the internet, it is a website hosted on servers in Google's buildings.

Hell, pretty much single system ON the internet is run through some sort of middleman.
You go through several servers yourself just to get here. Any of those servers could be compromised, it has happened before countless times.
One of the root internet servers IPs had been hijacked for years by some group that just vanished and nobody knows what information they took with them.
You automatically don't have privacy just by connecting to the internet, every single thing you do is going through your ISP
In most cases, they won't even begin to argue with the governments in requests to hand over information.
I'd click that Disconnect button in your modem / router page pronto, else your ISP might gather information about you! :O
Not to mention all those double-illegal wiretaps you DON'T know about.
by zato_3 September 29, 2009 11:25 AM PDT
fidodogbreath wrote: "The incoming phone numbers of everyone who calls you."

Well then gamer, you don't have anything to worry about, do you?
Besides, you've already gladly given Microsoft all your dox, haven't you?
by knowles2 September 29, 2009 1:35 PM PDT
It free at the point use.

I know certain Americans seem to struggle with that concept.
by zero998 September 29, 2009 1:52 PM PDT
1) Doesn't your wireless phone company already have most of this information?
2) Aren't you talking about Google Voice? That is very different than Google Wave, which the above article is about
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by Al3d September 29, 2009 10:20 AM PDT
There's always this or a cave in Alaska http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-08-11-n87.html
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by AveryOtto September 29, 2009 10:42 AM PDT
I agree with other posters, it is time to invite other friends. We participated in the preview and are totally jazzed by Wave's collaboration features. As you can see from our blog at:http://www.dynamicalsoftware.com/news/?p=27 it is really easy to integrate with Google Wave.
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by gmduke September 29, 2009 11:38 AM PDT
It may take generations for people to get used to the new information freedom. The sooner everyone knows everything about everyone the sooner the Bernie Madoffs of the world will become extinct.
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by knowles2 September 29, 2009 1:41 PM PDT
I think Bernie Madoffs made his fortune because everyone thought they knew everything about him.
It would not be hard to fake your entire on-line existence to make tens of millions a year.

But Bernis Madoffs is probably one of the best con artist on the planet, there are probably better ones who did not do a wobble and held the nerve or got bailed out by the government. If there was not a financial crisis no one would ever discovered his schemes. The fact he manage to con so many intelligence people he should congratulated for teaching them a lesson.
by QA_Tester September 30, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
I don't know about Millions of years but it will definitely take a while
by tvjames_ September 29, 2009 12:11 PM PDT
"As promised, Google plans to..."

That either is a "duh" or makes no sense. "As promised" suggests something has already occurred, but the thing that you are saying as occurred "as promised" is future plans that Google probably will - but has not yet - perform(ed).
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by mike1881 September 29, 2009 6:50 PM PDT
This thing seems pretty cool, but after watching the 1 hour+ video, it seems like it will take some adjusting from the now obsolete tech of Myspace, Facebook and twitter to this new type of media. i signed up for this recently, but after visiting code.google.com/apis/wave/ it says that only people who intend to build Google API's before the public release will be accepted, so i kind of doubt that i will get accepted because i mentioned nothing of the sort when i applied.
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by kamyar07 September 30, 2009 9:39 AM PDT
What are API's? And how is Facebook obsolete now?
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by QA_Tester September 30, 2009 3:34 PM PDT
Talking about big brother watching. With Patriot act still there any data Google collects can be accessed by the government
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by khoivu4477 October 1, 2009 8:32 AM PDT
Has google sent out invitations to general users yet? Keep watching my inbox :-)
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by craiglist October 15, 2009 3:16 AM PDT
Hey if anyone did not get his google wave invite . You can

get from here http://clipsbar.com/waveinvite.I am feeling

lucky that i got one from there
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by haikaladli October 30, 2009 10:57 AM PDT
Google is always making innovations. Moreover ChromeOS will be present at the end of the year ...

Do not forget to read related articles about Google Wave at the address

http://www.haikaladli.co.cc/2009/10/google-wave.html
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