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September 11, 2009 11:04 AM PDT

Bing 2.0 could be around the corner

by Tom Krazit
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Microsoft is getting ready to launch the next iteration of Bing, according to some wayward tweets.

Mary-Jo Foley at our sister site ZDNet spotted a few eager Twitter users spilling the beans on Bing 2.0 following Microsoft's annual company meeting, where employees were apparently given a preview of some new features that will be rolled out over the coming weeks. Some attendees had the changes coming next week, while others thought it would be more of a gradual rollout, but expect changes to Bing shortly.

What might be coming? One attendee said "imagine seeing maps plus pics from the neighborhood of a restaurant to try." That tweet has since been deleted. Another said "bing + silverlight in maps = amazing !! goodbye google." In what is likely not a coincidence, that tweet has also been deleted.

One message spotted by The Seattle P-I from Microsoft employee Luis Bitencourt-Emilio says "Bing 2.0's upcoming search visualization is pretty sexy..." It's not clear whether Microsoft is actually thinking of these changes as a version-style upgrade or a series of gradual tweaks, which seems more common in this market.

Microsoft had no official comment on the potential changes, according to ZDNet, other than saying "We're very excited about some of the new Bing features set to roll out over the next few months, but have nothing to announce today."

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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by mistasandman September 11, 2009 11:19 AM PDT
That's great to hear... I've been using Bing since it's launch and love it.
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by jackdaniels08 September 11, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
I tried Bing once. There is no reason to ever try it again. I, like most people in the world use Google. All the Googlers use Google and many people that work at Microsoft use Google according to my brother's friend who works for Microsoft including him.
by Glassner_S September 11, 2009 2:56 PM PDT
Tried Bing. It was just a bad as it was before they renamed it with the new stupid name.

Never touched it again.

The fact that Microsoft is having to resort to paying Yahoo to use their last place search engine pretty much sums up what a piece of garbage Bing is.
by Lennron September 11, 2009 7:40 PM PDT
I'm glad to hear they're improving the maps. That is the one and only area where Google is still better. Bing wins in web, image, AND video searches. not to mention it helps you get cheap travel plans and gives you cash back for shopping with it, both things Google fails to do. Only time I touch Google anymore is for their maps because Bing's are a little slow and doesn't have as much to offer. If they can turn that around, Google will no longer exist as far as I'm concerned.
by solicitehere September 16, 2009 9:21 AM PDT
Thanks for the useful review Glassner and Jackdaniel's, real informative. I bet you're Mac Boys too.
by Police_States_of_America September 11, 2009 11:27 AM PDT
bing trying to get in the news, more shameless self-exploitation

protip: no one cares
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by SeizeCTRL September 11, 2009 2:35 PM PDT
How is this different than Apple? Apple farts and the news hype goes into a flurry.

While I rarely use Bing... I thought it was interesting and wouldn't mind to check out the changes that are coming. So perhaps, no one cares but the guy above you and myself.
by Lennron September 11, 2009 2:53 PM PDT
"Apple farts and the news hype goes into a flurry"
That's both funny and sad.
Funny: for obvious reasons.
Sad: because it's true.
by SuperYogurt September 11, 2009 3:09 PM PDT
@Seize

Why do you mention Apple? Why? Who else mentioned Apple? Is the article about Apple? Man people like you are such shrivelled boobs.
by SeizeCTRL September 11, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
I mentioned Apple because the news sites go insane any time Apple sneezes. There is so much hype around Apple and their products that it's insane. To say that Bing is only trying to get news seems ridiculous when compared to all the news around Apple.
by SeizeCTRL September 11, 2009 3:24 PM PDT
Besides Yogurt, I have an iPhone, an iPod Touch, a 5g iPod, two Shuffles, an iMac and I recently got rid of my G4. So yes, I am a shrivelled boob :)

I also am now running Ubuntu, Gentoo Win7 and Vista64. I don't follow any company like a blind sheep.
by mistasandman September 11, 2009 5:23 PM PDT
Apparently ALOT of people care ;)
by Seaspray0 September 14, 2009 2:03 PM PDT
I'd like a feature where you could set your background picture to the one they show on bing every day. The pictures are very stunning.
by mistasandman September 11, 2009 11:40 AM PDT
I've gotten way better search results with Bing than I ever did with Google... Face it, Google is old news, time to move on ;)
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by Al3d September 11, 2009 12:27 PM PDT
give up dude nobody it's buying it
by BingItOn September 11, 2009 12:50 PM PDT
Hey @mistasandman you misspelt it is goofle :) and some people love blue links and don't like innovation, hey AI3d have you ever used Bing?
by Inconnux September 11, 2009 1:35 PM PDT
I have used Bing and found it lacking. Google gave me far better results.
by apple-pi September 11, 2009 3:57 PM PDT
BingItOn,

I think your username is very telling, thank you for an "unbiased" opinion. If you would clarify what exactly you mean by innovation in bung, or sorry, it is bang, oops, it is bing, i would love to hear.

Until then, I place you in the same category with mistasandman: he posts only to tell us about great results, three times a day, without any specifics.

And I did try the boong. The image search UI is good, but there is a fixed limit of 1000 on the number of images you can view, while the number of results displayed can go into millions. The image results after first couple of dozen, aren't nearly as good as those on Google. And I hate 'jumping' images when you focus on them... So it is better than that "Live" abomination, but quality-wise not nearly as good as Google.
by BingItOn September 11, 2009 5:03 PM PDT
okay CRAPple-pi, remeber Bing is King.

I am sure you are goofler or foogler or boogler or whatever you obiviously did not used BING. I search for images and I don't see image is limited to 1000 results. see for your self

e.g. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=madonna&FORM=IGRE#

you can try other if you wish.
by Rod Roddy September 11, 2009 10:35 PM PDT
People don't like Bing because it's Microsoft, and it's "cool" to dislike Microsoft. I can guarantee that if Apple launched a search engine people would be on it like white on rice...trust.
by Hernys September 11, 2009 10:39 PM PDT
I used Bing and in many cases I didn't find the results I was looking for, at least not in the first few pages. But then I tried Google for the same searches, and the results were not better.
So search is still in its infancy. There's lots of room for improvement. Whether it comes from Bing or from Google, it is good that the market is moving. Competition is good. Even when it comes from Microsoft.
by lil-yankee September 11, 2009 10:53 PM PDT
BingItOn is the perfect example of a brown nose trying to get a free pc (looser)
by BingItOn September 11, 2009 11:00 PM PDT
One feature I like on Google Map, especially direction by walking and public transit, rest everything is boring. Bing is good in direction but does not have this feature so I give +1 to google.
by BingItOn September 12, 2009 2:37 AM PDT
@lil-yankee -- Brown nose

I don't need favor from any one. I have been using Google for very long period of time, Bing made me switch.
Use it for your self http://www.bing.com/ and you will see what I mean., Really I don't like googl any more, search results in google is nothing more that bunch of meaningless blue link compared to Bing where results are well organized. Only one area google is better is mapping, but not sure how long it will be.

BTW I am the Winner, are you sure you are not talking about your self?
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by dataJONBOY September 11, 2009 12:29 PM PDT
bing upgrades are more than welcome. i've been using it eversince launch. it's my homescreen. i check bing everymorning when i get to work. get coffee..not ready to work yet.. sit at desk and explore today's pretty interactive bing page.
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by SuperYogurt September 11, 2009 3:10 PM PDT
good for you...
by t8 September 12, 2009 10:03 PM PDT
OK, so your'e saying that we should too?
We don't work for Microsoft though.
by Philstera September 11, 2009 12:41 PM PDT
Agree Bing is the better search engine for regular searches, video, images, travel, shopping its user interface is more intuitive and I find I get results quicker.

The web previews are great too. The only area lacking is news search which i dont really use.
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by OfficerNelson September 11, 2009 12:42 PM PDT
Google Docs, Google Calendar, Google Spreadsheets, Google Notebook, Chrome (both browser and Linux awesomeness), Google Checkout, Google Earth, GOOG-411, Google News, YouTube, Gmail, SketchUp, Google Translate, and... obviously... Google Search. All of them I use extensively without any complaints.

Windows. Vista, to be exact. Uh... IE8 in very rare circumstances. Perchance Windows 7 in the future (even though it's nothing more than a reskin of a reskin of XP). Problems.

I don't particularly trust Bing, even though I've tried it and saw no immediate advantages. Search engines are search engines. If someone is searching for "Google" in an attempt to find reasons why Google sucks, then they will be woefully disappointed. If someone is searching in an attempt to find Google itself, then they will be pleased. The fundamental issue regarding accurate search results is flawed due to too many variables. Thus, it depends simply on what the user wants to see: if they want "see also" results (no thanks), photos of random things (not really), and horrible mystery-meat-navigation-style tooltips with random factoids (why?), then Bing is the clear winner. If someone cares about nothing but the search (me), the only graphic on the page being a simple logo (yes, along with anyone using a slow computer/internet), and a good reputation (definitely)... Google wins.

Also, to "bing + silverlight in maps = amazing !! goodbye google."... nobody cares about Silverlight. Absolutely nobody. If the new Maps whatever feature for Bing is powered by Silverlight, it will be a massive failure.
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by kojacked September 11, 2009 1:12 PM PDT
"even though it's nothing more than a reskin of a reskin of XP). Problems."

You have no clue do you? Windows 7 is hardly a reskin of XP.
by durlabhm September 11, 2009 1:33 PM PDT
You reallly need to wake up from your own little isolated world. things have changed outside pal.. Bing ROCKS.. i have left google ever since.. try their fare search, product info, maps, travel, celeb, man you have to try to believe .. and i can trust that if microsoft brings bing2 it will be even better. thats all i can say right now.
and sorry about your OS misconceptions, again, please dont hit snooze anymore and wake up :) to a happier world.
by TinyIoda September 11, 2009 1:33 PM PDT
oh so jaded..

by the way... silverlight is simply an extension of .net and the wpf (and if you know anything about development...is quite successful!!)... pretty much every application will be writen using it soon...

once developers realize that its almost as simple as a recompile to get those apps to work in the browser via silverlight... its going to explode... and either way... its simply a programming language theres no need to get your panties in a bunch .. there are 10000 or so languages that failed before it...like all languages.. another tool for another job..
by ncalishome September 11, 2009 2:19 PM PDT
"... nobody cares about Silverlight. Absolutely nobody. If the new Maps whatever feature for Bing is powered by Silverlight, it will be a massive failure."

Not in touch with the average Internet user are you? You're right about the "nobody cares" part... it's just that most people's "not caring" involves installing Silverlight when it asks. If the application is good they'll like it. Simple as that, 99% don't care about the technology period.
by FutureGuy September 11, 2009 2:47 PM PDT
"Windows 7 in the future (even though it's nothing more than a reskin of a reskin of XP)"
" nobody cares about Silverlight"

Hope you are having fun in your cave.
by SeizeCTRL September 11, 2009 3:27 PM PDT
" nobody cares about Silverlight"

Apparently you don't stream Netflix...
by apple-pi September 11, 2009 4:14 PM PDT
"by the way... silverlight is simply an extension of .net and the wpf (and if you know anything about development...is quite successful!!)... pretty much every application will be writen using it soon... "

I would not count on that. Do not get me wrong, I think that .NET is a good platform, but it is closed. The standard is controlled by MS, and MS owns tons of IP around it.

There are cases when Silverlight (or any other .NET application) is a good solution, but I would not count on it ever becoming a standard for developing Internet apps. At the moment, it looks to me like just another way to lock people into using the Win OS.
by kojacked September 12, 2009 11:29 AM PDT
"and MS owns tons of IP around it." and what? Microsoft is going to sue people for using their development environment and runtime for writing apps? Give me a break. The only people who care about the IP Microsoft owns in regards to their development tools are those who blindly hate Microsoft or are in competition with them. Which camp are you in?
by t8 September 14, 2009 12:33 AM PDT
@ kojacked

Open usually win when it comes to Web development.
Apache is bigger than IIS for example.

It is unlikely that .net will dominate the Web.
by nonicks September 11, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
welcome news..

I moved from fulltime Googler to Fulltime Binging..
and I don't seem to regret it.

I still do occassional Googling.. for old technical articles.. which Bing doesn't seem to have yet.
But .. I love binging a lot.

Like someone else said above.. Bing's home page is what I look forward to ecery day.. It gives me travel options and information.

looking forward to Bing 2.0
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by lalittp September 11, 2009 1:26 PM PDT
I use bing for any shopping related searches, it has given me $$$ cash-back. It's amazing, search, find the best deal and then also earn cash-back. I also like bing home page.
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by myles taylor September 11, 2009 1:28 PM PDT
The problem with Bing is that it's not compelling enough to people to change. People are satisfied with Google and it will take more than a few flashy features to get the masses to change search engines. I don't pretend to know what it would take, but I don't think it will happen anytime soon. A few (and by a few I mean a small percentage) of techies and followers like the people who read CNet will try it and maybe switch, but the masses will keep using Google.
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by gregstemler September 11, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
This is great news.
Personally I still tend to use Google as I feel I get better results,but I've also tried Bing and I think M$ did a great job.

Has everyone who posted here forgotten that innovation requires competition? Personally I refuse to be a fanboy (Google, M$, Apple, Linux, whatever). Yes I have my favorites, but what I want most is that all of this stuff (the Internet, smartphones, voice recognition, contact management, location based services, the cloud, on and on...) JUST KEEP GETTING BETTER!

I'm looking forward to what Bing is going to force Google to do, and also to the next start-up who will stomp on 'em all.
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by ncalishome September 11, 2009 2:09 PM PDT
I agree with you point for point. Bing is not anything revolutionary that is for sure but I know a lot of people who have switched and love it. Finally a really good Google search alternative that Google will take seriously and respond in whatever way they do, which means win for consumer. I look forward to seeing what MS rolls out.
by agriffith96 September 11, 2009 1:50 PM PDT
I love the different pictures everyday. I use Bing as my homepage at work. It's just as good as google. I do still use google for news and maps. If Bing improves in these two areas I might not be using google anymore. I like it when companies compete. Makes for better products.
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by sciontcya September 11, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
Listen to the MS fanboys trying to pump-up Bingo!
Hilarious.
And you say Mac fanboys are bad - sheesh!
I see Ballmer has his assistant posting here a lot today...
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by Lennron September 12, 2009 8:31 AM PDT
Have you actually tried Bing? Go there and do an image or video search. My best friend who's an Apple fanboy couldn't even help but admit that they were awesome.
by kojacked September 12, 2009 11:32 AM PDT
"I see Ballmer has his assistant posting here a lot today... "

Now that's classic fanboy paranoia there. Baseless and tasteless. Why don't you just stand up and shout "You Lie!"?
by Seaspray0 September 14, 2009 2:16 PM PDT
"...trying to pump-up Bingo!" Bingo is fun. Marking those cards while the guy at the front spins the cage and calls out the numbers... N-38.... O-64.... and if you can fill up a row, column, or diagonal before anyone else, BINGO! You should try it.
by spitbucket September 11, 2009 2:52 PM PDT
Lol.... Wow! there are a lot of softies posting comments around here. Nice way to promote Bing 2.0 keep it up. I wonder what kind of koolaid they served to SaFeCo when they announce this, lol. May I add...

I used bing to read my news, buy lawn mower, water my plant, wash my cat, scrub my armpit.... I even found my wife on bing!

Get I get my cheque now?
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by t8 September 14, 2009 4:01 PM PDT
Ha ha. So true.
The Bingos from Redmond are posting lots of propaganda today.
by jackdaniels08 September 11, 2009 2:52 PM PDT
Check out this recent article. This is great news for Google. http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090831-707927.html
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by ncalishome September 11, 2009 4:07 PM PDT
Title of article: "Google Still Far Ahead in Global Search Market"

Bing launched June 1st (3 months before article)... title should have been "Grass is Green, Google Still Far Ahead in Global Search Market"
by Seaspray0 September 14, 2009 2:25 PM PDT
That article has to do with market share and market share is what determines what products are the best. If a product doesn't have the biggest market share then it isn't the best product... especially when you have less than 10% marketshare and other guy's product has a monopoly on marketshare. Then your product is a total looser. Right, jackdaniels?
by FF2009 September 11, 2009 2:54 PM PDT
same crap with a different theme. I am sorry M$ but you have missed the boat long time ago on Search Engines. Nothing is better than Google.

Google Search= simplicity, and gets me what I want, when i want it.

Bing= annoyance and cool enough to get the attention of teenage girls.
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by t8 September 14, 2009 4:02 PM PDT
I hear that Bing is highly successful in the Redmond Campus.
Success at last.
by spitbucket September 11, 2009 2:56 PM PDT
Take 2...

Lol.... Wow! there are a lot of softies posting comments around here. Nice way to promote Bing 2.0 keep it up. I wonder what kind of koolaid they served to SaFeCo when they announce this, lol.

May I add...

I used bing to read my news, buy lawn mower, water my plant, wash my cat, scrub my armpit.... I even found my wife on bing!

Can I get my cheque now?
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by Michichael September 11, 2009 3:36 PM PDT
I propose we have a CNet poll over what search engine people use, then on what search engine people think is the best.
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by Seaspray0 September 14, 2009 2:29 PM PDT
It would probably match the one they use (or they wouldn't be using it). And they're all right in their own way. What search engine a person uses is an individual choice.
by sjlg September 11, 2009 3:55 PM PDT
I have been very impressed by the quality of search results from Bing. It seems to know what I want and delivers it directly many more times than Google.

For example, I recently wanted to know the filght arrival time for Singapore Airlines flight SQ002 to go pick up someone. I tried searching for "sq002" on both Bing and Google. No comparison at all. Bing wins this unscientific contest hands down!
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by t8 September 14, 2009 4:02 PM PDT
Another Bingo from Redmond.
by mistasandman September 11, 2009 5:23 PM PDT
I agree with everyone else... Bing rocks! Microsoft has been at the top of the game lately as far as innovation goes. It's time for the web to grow up... I'm glad Microsoft realizes that, even if so many 'fanboys' are too afraid to move on. Don't be scared little fanboys, it was bound to happen :)
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by d4nowar September 11, 2009 7:28 PM PDT
This is news? I'd happily forgotten bing existed until I saw this article. OH WELL. Guess I'll go back to happily forgetting about it again.
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