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October 6, 2009 8:37 AM PDT

CNET to add phone service data to handset reviews

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Thanks to the hard work of Kent German, Bonnie Cha, and Nicole Lee, CNET's reviews of mobile handsets are unparalleled: we are the place on the Web to get in-depth evaluations of nearly every handset offered by the major carriers.

But we're not satisfied because we know you're not.

Judging a phone by its features, design, and quality is just half the story when determining whether it is worth purchasing. The other half of the equation is the quality of service provided by the carrier--and that's a factor we have not yet provided. After failing to find a solution for many years, we've finally arrived at one that I expect will rattle the market.

We've partnered with a company called Root Wireless, which is led by some cellular-industry veterans, to provide consumers with detailed, real-world coverage of major U.S. cities.

(Credit: Root Wireless)

With Root, we're now collecting data in eight major metropolitan markets: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, Washington, Dallas, and California's Orange County. Once enough data is sampled, the information will be available on CNET for cell phone buyers to determine the quality of service around their home, on their way to work, and at the office.

The information, being collected for the four major wireless carriers--AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon Wireless--covers three key service concerns:

  1. Average signal strength and the number of signal bars for the selected carrier in a specified area
  2. Data connectivity and throughput
  3. Network issues such as drop calls or failed data connections

This is no small effort. It entails installing software on a variety of phones and collecting real data on those key metrics. The information--which includes time of day, terrain, and number of users in an area--is transmitted to a database and made available via a Web interface. Users can drill down to see how the big carriers perform in their neighborhood or zoom out to view the coverage on their commute route.

We're doing this because we know there's a huge need. We recently conducted an online poll of our users in which 26 percent of you said you had returned a cell phone due to poor service, and nearly half of you feel that there is not enough information available on service quality.

It may be premature to write about this now, but I couldn't wait. I've seen the working prototypes, and I know that this is going to be big hit for our users. Rather than rely on anecdotal evidence from friends or user reviews, or even from CNET's editors, you will have empirical data on which to base your purchasing decisions.

We have collected data in those eight markets so far, and we'll be beta-testing for the remainder of 2009, with a general release as early as January 2010. And don't fret, if your city wasn't listed in the first batch of eight because we'll be adding many more areas in the next year.

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by inachu1 October 6, 2009 9:15 AM PDT
Funny how I thought that no matter who collects this data that it was proprietary IP information.

Cnet did a report on a guy a few years back who mapped out areas not gettign service and he put his results online and was sued by his cell phone company.
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by tinlizziedl October 6, 2009 12:09 PM PDT
Yep. I imagine it will only be a matter of time before Cnet and Root get sued by the carriers over this. After all, anyone who stands to lose market-share when the public learns the real coverage stats will scream bloody murder.

An interesting question will be whether the carriers will all band together to destroy this, or if there will be a few notable exeptions coming out in support of it.

Another interesting datum would be how much data is actually traversing a network at any given moment, but I have no idea how that could be collected without the active participation of the carriers... The best we can do now is to attempt to find this by inference from many other factors.
by Tech Diva XXX October 6, 2009 1:09 PM PDT
I'm interested to know who won the case. I don't see why publishing this info is illegal or wrong.
by ij57 October 6, 2009 9:33 AM PDT
Great idea! And when you've finished mapping the entire US, can you do it for Canada too, please? :-)
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by jaguar717 October 6, 2009 8:15 PM PDT
I agree on expanding the zones. Who cares about the urban slums? Super high density areas are easy because with everybody stuck on top of each other (and having 99% of their use in the same place) you can throw up a few towers and have uniform coverage.

Take this app out where people actually work for a living and getting coverage in a variety of locations is important. County-wide data would be very valuable.
by Random_Walk October 6, 2009 10:04 AM PDT
One question - are you averaging the whole wad into one figure, or will there be the capacity to have a user search his or her own area to get a better idea?

For example, a carrier can reign supreme in one area, but lag behind all others in another.

(also, add PDX to the pile, damn you :) ).
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by priyankardutta October 6, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
This will be awesome. Maybe this will bring AT&T to its senses and reduce the woes of its many customers!!!
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by strongpimphand October 7, 2009 8:29 AM PDT
Might be true where you lived, but where I live...Sprint doesn't work in the most populated side of town and Verizon was a joke until they bought out Alltel (And the Hattiesburg, MS area is 100k+...)

So yea...piling on ATT is laughable
by locohuge October 6, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
That sounds good to me but most people buy phones based on their apperance and futures and they forget about call quality, that's the reason why I'm not leaving Verizon, 'cause wherever I go I got signal.
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by molotov October 6, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
This is the end of "More bars in more places!" lie.

locohuge is dead on. It won't change much because people buy iPhones only because they are a great tool, but choose to over-look the fact that they get little to no actual signal. "Who needs signal when I can order pizza without calling Domino's?"
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by darkpoet25 October 6, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
Wether or not somene gets a signal depends on where you live. I have no problem here in Indianapolis with drppoed calls or signal with AT&T, even when inside work. It may work for me here, but I also realize that isn't the case for everyone else. But the way you generalize iPhone owners doesn't help your statement much, it only shows your own personal bias. And yes even Verizon doesn't get signal everywhere either.
by Rod Roddy October 6, 2009 11:21 AM PDT
Cool, it's good to read that CNET is looking out for us consumers...well, sort of.
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by jjacobus October 6, 2009 12:07 PM PDT
Excellent. I'm sick of seeing anecdotal comments about individuals whining about one network or another and making broad statements about carriers. All carriers of an uneven level of service based on geography (hey, if you don't like coverage in SanFrancisco, move to another part of the country.). The empirical data will help us all making buying decisions. Look forward to this.
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by adepaolo October 6, 2009 12:39 PM PDT
For as long as this feature lasts, I will welcome it and am already sharing the great news. Psst, AT&T, remember your sham tv spots touting Fewest Dropped Calls? Time to own up to your lies, at least in the Northwest...you 100% ruined the iPhone for me.

I read a funny quote that "living in the Northwest/Seattle is like being married to a beautiful woman, who is sick all the time" - due to the rain. Basically you can use this with the iPhone being Seattle, and the rainfall being AT&T! bleh.
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by Paul_Christie October 7, 2009 10:21 AM PDT
Jeez...
Somebody get this guy an iPhone! There are options, you know...
Like plenty of better or alternative options.
by adepaolo October 7, 2009 11:38 AM PDT
LOL. Thanks for that. hey, I thought it was obvious I was trying to be unbiased by yielding to the notion that San Fran and Seattle are (for now) not doing so hot with AT&T coverage....BUT other people don't seem to have this problem. fine....

So, after 2 months of having an iPhone 3G and jumping Verizon's ship, I returned it and came back running to Verizon since what felt like 50% of my calls were either Dropped, or said Call Failure. very frustrating. So my "plenty of better or alternative options" became BlackBerry Tour. LOVE IT. If the Pre or iPhone ever come to VZW, I'm sure I'll at least try it out...we'll see

thanks Paul, what are you using?
by johnisfun October 6, 2009 12:52 PM PDT
Good job CNET, it will be a great addition to your site.
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by ofmyony October 6, 2009 1:07 PM PDT
This is good news. Consumers will be empowered and Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile should be very happy. ATT will be very upset, but at least consumers of ATT will see why they get such poor service.

If ATT throws a fit and sues, Cnet should remove all ATT phone reviews including the iPhone. There are ways to stop a lawsuit.
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by MRPysnik October 6, 2009 1:11 PM PDT
Is there a way we can help Root Wireless out? I took a quick look at their website and didn't see anything about helping. Are they doing this Google Streetview style with their own equipment, or can I install something on my BlackBerry?
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by timetraveler7000 October 6, 2009 2:51 PM PDT
i definitely like this idea. great job cnet!
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by thepurplepalace October 6, 2009 5:10 PM PDT
iblipped.com is something similar to this. You can contribute to this if you have windows mobile or blackberry. The ota links are on the site.
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by Zanoab October 7, 2009 1:11 AM PDT
This is a great idea but I won't be surprised if there so trouble later on. Go CNET! I'm supporting you all the way now.

If I were to place bets on the first company (or group) to do this project before CNET released this article, my bets would have been Google all the way. You would think Google would have collected this information while collecting images for their street-view, but I guess Google is too busy with something else which allowed CNET to take the initiative. This would be quite an accomplishment for any site if this project is successful and remains as up to date as possible but I'm glad it is CNET instead of Google.
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by azadam24 October 7, 2009 3:53 AM PDT
Kudos to CNET for this rather large undertaking. First off, I would like to suggest Phoenix (which is actually a larger city by population than a couple cities listed) be included. My other suggestion would be that the unlimited carriers such as MetroPCS and Cricket be included in the evaluation, and I would be more than happy to participate in any such beta testing.
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by steel36 October 7, 2009 4:29 AM PDT
Thanks for pushing the edge and the industry... just like Apple.

Oops, the 2nd half of that comment was supposed to be sent out 2 years ago. Please disregard.
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by steel36 October 7, 2009 4:34 AM PDT
Although, I must say that it's not so cool that under your heading for "Great Smartphone for first time users" you reviewed the Touch 2. Maybe it should have said for non-US users.
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by Boodle October 7, 2009 8:08 AM PDT
Thank you so much CNET. This is one thing I have desired for a long period of time because I pick my cell phone just solely on the coverage that the provider has. With no signal in most areas that you live, what is the point of owning a cell phone? I can't wait to see the service when it is ready in 2010.
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by teedo October 7, 2009 12:38 PM PDT
I am willing to capture data for this project especially if it is software based and I only need to download a program onto my phone.
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