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Notebook shopping, with help from CNET's friends

by Scott Ard
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At CNET, we take great pride in the quality and thoroughness of our reviews. We know they play an important role in helping millions of consumers to determine which tech products to buy and which to shun.

But we're also realists. We know that a CNET review is just one part of the research that goes into picking out a new phone, laptop, or TV--especially in this economy. The other sources you're likely to turn to include other review sites, manufacturer information such as specs, reviews from other users, and advice from friends.

For years, CNET has had you covered on all those points except the part about friends. Well, we're aiming to change that.

Imagine that you're looking for a new laptop and you ask your friends what they own, what their experience has been with that manufacturer, and whether they would buy the same machine again. Chances are the responses will be useful, to a point. It's likely your friends have not purchased a notebook in a while, so they have little insight into the current crop. And their experience with breakage and customer service--whether it's good or bad--is valid but anecdotal.

This is where CNET can help, if you're willing to stretch your definition of "friend." Each day, hundreds of thousands of like-minded people click around our sites doing research and deciding what to buy. If you could see what these people are viewing most often, wouldn't you find that to be valuable information? It would be like walking into a Best Buy or Wal-Mart and seeing a throng of people gathered around one or two laptops on display. Of course you would join the pack to see what the buzz is about: is it a low price, hot new hardware, or both?

The online equivalent to seeing what people are checking out in a store is CNET's Business Intelligence group, which crunches a "Matrix"-worthy amount of data about activity across CNET's many sites. Their reports are typically used by the sales team to demonstrate the power of the CNET brand and its influence on buyers. Now, however, we are taking the first steps to making that information available to you as one of the tools we provide to meet our core mission: connecting buyers and sellers.

Notebook manufacturer share by considered users

CNET tracks what it calls "considered users," defined as visitors who clicked on a product review, like this one of a new Sony Vaio, and/or on a pricing link on the review page or elsewhere on CNET. In industry parlance, the people reading product reviews, checking out specs, viewing a video, and so on, are described as being "up funnel" because they are thinking about buying something but are still in research mode. "Down funnel" users are those who have clicked on a pricing or merchant link, because they are that much closer to making a purchase. In either case, they are all "considered users" because they are considering a product.

What our data shows is that the number of considered users looking at notebooks climbed 31 percent from July 2007 to July 2008 and--despite Depression 2.0--the number of these users climbed another 25 percent in the past 12 months (sorry, the data guardians at CNET won't let me publish the actual totals but I'm working on them). That's healthy growth that could be the result of several factors. As the site editor, I'll list the two I think are most plausible: our superb laptop editors, led by Dan Ackerman, are cranking out more reviews than ever before, and our SEO team has made sure their reviews rank extremely high on Google and other search engines. Even if people aren't buying as much in this economy, they are certainly researching for when they are ready.

The macro numbers are interesting, but the more intriguing stuff can be found in the micro picture. Within the notebook category, the two-year trend lines reveal how the major manufacturers have fared versus their competition. For example, in July 2007, Dell products or prices were viewed by 40 percent of all considered users on CNET, but that number dipped to 25 percent last summer and it has continued to sink in 2009 to less than 20 percent.

Who benefited from Dell's tumble? Hewlett-Packard began at 24 percent in July 2007, slipped to 20 percent by the spring of 2008, and now sits at 30 percent, giving it the largest share of considered users of any notebook maker on CNET.

The big winner has been Asus, which Ackerman calls "masters of the Netbook." And right now, Netbooks are hot on CNET. After unveiling its first Eee PC in late 2007, Asus has climbed from 2 percent in July 2007 to 13 percent a year later to 20 percent in July 2009.

Apple tends to hover at about 10 percent, but its share can spike to 15 percent or 20 percent when new models are reviewed. Other manufacturers also see such spikes around new products, but they aren't as pronounced. (See the above chart, which tracks the major manufacturers and calls out newly published product reviews that resulted in traffic spikes.)

U.S. notebook shipments by manufacturer

U.S. notebook shipments by manufacturer

Of course, this data is only part of the picture, and one obvious question is how closely CNET's numbers track actual sales figures. For those numbers I'll turn to IDC, which issues quarterly shipments for the major notebook makers, and compare four notable names:

HP: IDC shows HP hovering at around 25 percent for the past couple of years, with a jump to about 30 percent in the first quarter of 2009. CNET also shows HP tracking at around 25 percent until October of last year, when it topped 30 percent (where it has remained since).

Dell: IDC shows Dell peaking at nearly 28 percent during the last three months of 2007 and then steadily drifting down to 23 percent in the first quarter of this year. CNET shows Dell at about 30 percent in the final quarter of 2007 before sliding to between 24 percent and 26 percent during the first three months of 2009. Since then Dell has slid further to its current 19 percent.

Apple: IDC has Apple ranging from 7 percent to 11 percent for the past couple of years. CNET also shows Apple in a similar band, with the notable exception of some sharp monthly spikes around the publication of new product reviews (which typically occur within a day or two of a new notebook being released on the market).

Asus: According to IDC, Asus has risen from almost nothing a couple of years ago to 3.5 percent in the first quarter. CNET's monthly numbers for the first three months show Asus running between 7 percent and 10 percent, and as of July it was up to 20 percent. (It's my guess that CNET is a leading indicator when it comes to the popularity of Netbooks and that Asus will show a jump in IDC's second-quarter numbers--perhaps not as dramatic as the 16 percent to 20 percent seen on CNET, but a nice gain nonetheless.)

As you can see, the trends observed by CNET and IDC are similar. The key difference is that CNET is tracking people while they research and shop, and IDC is following actual shipments. CNET is also compiling stats each month, versus quarterly for IDC. The two reports together are very complementary, but CNET is tracking the consideration phase, so we theoretically can spot trends before they manifest in actual sales, and sooner.

As a result, we think you will find the CNET numbers to be another piece of the puzzle when trying to determine which notebook to buy. Just like a single product review, or user opinion, or even a friend's recommendation, they aren't the whole or the final answer. But they are useful for seeing in a very timely way which notebook manufacturers are getting most of the attention on our site and how they are faring each month. (CNET also produces lists of specific products that users are interested in, but this new data focuses on manufacturers to provide another view into the current market.)

For now, our foray into this new area is modest--just this blog post and the above charts. In the near future, we will be injecting this data into the site in various ways. For example, the product-filtering tool on the notebook category door and elsewhere will show how certain manufacturers are trending on CNET (the manufacturer choice is the most commonly used filter in this tool, so we know readers are concerned about who is making their hardware).

After notebooks, we'll be collecting the data for the other key categories on CNET, particularly TVs and mobile phones, and coming up with novel ways to incorporate the information into the site. For example, we can see which phones are popular with people who live in your area.

As a potential buyer or follower of the tech industry, please leave a comment below on the type of data you would find useful and how you would like to see that information presented on the site: in monthly blog posts, trend lines on the categories doors, or as part of our product-sorting tools?

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by joetesta70 August 24, 2009 12:33 AM PDT
Looks like Apple and greedy $teve Job$ will never break the 10% mark.

Serves them right for a CLOSED and PROPRIETARY system that most people in the 3rd world can't afford with limited software, and censorship of your phone apps. Oh but the guys with the poseur bike messenger bags can all afford it.

Buy a PC, install Chrome, Ubuntu Linux, buy a G1 and install what YOU like, go to sourceforge for other cool software and really change the world!
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by jture August 24, 2009 3:45 AM PDT
Don't feed the trolls.
by Seaspray0 August 24, 2009 7:25 AM PDT
Maybe not, but his trolls have far exceeded that mark.
by mike_ekim August 24, 2009 8:22 AM PDT
Hmmm...change the world by installing an OS. Sure thing. I have an idea: take the 'savings' you made by using an alternative OS and then consider the hours you spent researching, installing, debugging, and maintaining it. Compare that to the money you would have made if you had picked up a second job, a job that you liked as much as you like working on computers.

Using Linux is sort of like building your own kit car instead of just buying one. It costs a lot more when you consider the hours you put into it (after all, you could have just gone to work instead of working on your computer) and if you like working on computers more than you like going to work then (a) your job sucks, find a better one - you have plenty of time for a second job, you're spending it working on your computer after all, or (b) computers are your hobby, why bash people because they don't share the same hobby?
by classicvibe August 26, 2009 4:45 PM PDT
This makes no sense. He's saying that Apple has a low market share because of their proprietary software. But given that all of the other manufacturers here sell predominantly to people who use Windows, which is also proprietary, his argument doesn't hold up at all.
by APPLEDUDE1983 September 4, 2009 8:00 AM PDT
Hi JoeTesta70,

I am from Barbados, a third world island according to you. Many persons here have apples as personal machine and practicaly all design, advertising, radio and 3/4 of government institutions use apple computers. Mind you i am talking about Barbados alone, so if we include Jamaica, Trinidad, Guyana etc. you will come to a different conclusion. I think it is best you acquaint yourself with proper facts and stats. before making or creating conclusions.

Best Regards
by La Faya October 5, 2009 1:00 PM PDT
joetesta is right about the 3rd world countries. am myself living in a country under development. You guys know nothing about what is really happening. So, instead of losing your time and energy writing nonsense. I wanted to buy a laptop online but on none of the official sites of these makes have I found a link to ship it to Mauritius. My only option is now ebay and I may not even be sure to get the best.
by Rolker August 24, 2009 12:55 AM PDT
It is interesting to see Asus growth since 2007. It is amazing to see how the Netbook changed things for this company.
Lets not forget that these are US sales. World wide the numbers are different, were Asus is a much bigger player, Apple is a smaller one, while MSI is also quite big.
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by solitare_pax August 24, 2009 4:11 AM PDT
Question: How do these charts compare with the times that Dell, HP and Apple advertise on CNET? That might explain some of the higher interest in those products, as opposed to Asus or Acer, which I don't recall running ads on this site.
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by the Otter August 24, 2009 5:28 AM PDT
I don?t know? I still don?t get the whole ?netbook? thing. Popular or not, I just can?t see myself using such an undersized machine for anything useful. Perhaps I?m not the target audience?
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by cbs16 August 24, 2009 5:34 AM PDT
Per?haps? ?not??
by thelemurking August 24, 2009 6:11 AM PDT
We just picked up a Gateway netbook last week, the one running an AMD Athlon processor as opposed to the Intel Atom. We picked it up for only one purpose, to install the software that connects to the remote control units at our transmitter sites. The requirements for the software were very low, so we didn't need a giant laptop to lug around, especially driving up bumpy, poorly defined roads on top of mountains. The Gateway we picked up was 11.6" and runs a whole lot quicker than we anticipated... especially considering it came with Vista. I set a few services into manual or disabled and it boots up right now with only 41 processes.

I never thought we would ever use one at work, but so far, this has been a great little machine. I'm still sketchy with it on the keyboard which still feels a bit small... I had a hard time trying to decide between a full fledge laptop for $399 at Best Buy or the Gateway netbook for $379... size, weight and portability won out over the more powerful, larger laptop.
by nashmatt September 1, 2009 8:20 PM PDT
For serious use I don't see it either. I could never do the things I use my PC for on one. However, my 4yo son was hogging my wife's PC at night so we bought a Dell Mini for him to jump on the internet at home. It has been great so far. We use it more than I thought. It actually lives in a drawer in an end table. My wife now uses it to check email quickly and do the facebook thing. It beats pulling out the bigger PC when she and I don't have real work to do.
by rayzoredge August 24, 2009 10:09 AM PDT
I think one thing that would be awesome for laptop shopping/research as well as for any other gadget is a NewEgg-style Power Search filtering system instead of applying filters via link, plus it would be AWESOME if you could filter by gaming capacity. Then again, it's been a common complaint on my end since it's hard to discern what would be good or decent for gaming when you have to flip back and forth between applying filters on CNet and checking to see if the graphics chipset is worth a damn for games on NotebookCheck.net.
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by setjeff15081947 August 24, 2009 2:06 PM PDT
B.S. ... M.S. ... P.H.D. That's Bull-S*** ... More S*** ... Pile It Higher and Deeper.
This article ain't worth the "Paper it's Printed ... !". Whoops, I mean it ain't worth the electrons you're being bombarded with to read this! Or How-Some-Ever this World-Wide-Web works? If anyone believes one word, or graph, depicted here, I've got a lovely bridge that crosses The East River into BROOKLYN I'd be happy to sell you.
Every piece of Electronic Felgergarb in my World ---Personal and Corporate--- is made by Toshiba, and that's the way I will have it.
Bah! Humbug, I say ... Humbug!
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by petetrofsky August 25, 2009 10:24 AM PDT
My Toshiba Sattelite 1905 is from 2002 and is outdated now. As a result I need a new lap top and shopping and researching. My problem is that I don't want to work on my computer! I just want it to work without problems and Restoring and fighting viruses! I just want it to connect and work without problems.
All Laptops I see (HP) included are LOADED with all kinds of software I don't need or want. I am not a scientist or developer or any of those things. However I am a photographer and videographer and would like the system to handle volumes of that stuff and file it away properly where I can get it, use it, and edit it .
I do the usual things: FB, Yahoo, web searches, email, and play games. No gaming! I mean roulette, Texas holdem Poker etc. I also would like to run my Flight Simulator without it crashing always!
I do color brochures and lots of Posters and advertising materials POP (Point of Purchse) so I need something tht hold up under the stress.
I need to take it with me! Portability is important to me.
I have a wireless Sprint card and it functions all around the nation just fine, so I cannect everywhere!
I can't pay lost of cash, so am looking for a good bye at a reasonable price.
What do you all think? I would apprciate your help. I've been a pc user and all of my files and things are of that format as a result I don't switching to a Mac is a smart move for me. Besides it is astronomically high and I can't afford to spend that kind of money. This one cost me 2200 bucks back then. But that was when i was working and could afford it. I am retired and unemployed recently so bucks are very tight.
Thanks in advance for you help. And please don't include "cheese slicer" or "panini grill" BS! I need some straight talk here with all of that stuff.
Thanks again.
pckouris
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by Hockeyfan333 September 3, 2009 9:03 AM PDT
All very interesting...I'd like to be able to filter the data to only show the netbook category, or desktops only perhaps. Well done Cnet, you have once again made my purchasing easier.
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by akash1475 October 23, 2009 8:56 AM PDT
Cnet's editor has flawed in interpreting the data shown in the two graphs! Please revisit them and see the actual winner is Asus and not the HP.
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