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November 9, 2009 2:43 PM PST

Apple plugs holes for domain spoofing, other attacks

by Elinor Mills
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Apple on Monday released a large security update for Mac OS X that fixes dozens of vulnerabilities and provides protection against potential attacks exploiting a weakness in the protocol used to verify that a domain is legitimate.

There are 43 specific issues addressed in the 2009-006 update, released the same day as Mac OS X v.10.6.2.

It plugs a variety of holes for the Mac OS X v10.5.8, 10.6, 10.6.1, and Mac OS X Server v10.6 and 10.6.1, many of which could lead to arbitrary code execution and allow an attacker to take control of a computer.

Several updates affect Apache and QuickTime. Others target AFP Client, Apple Type Services, Core Graphics, CoreMedia, Dictionary, Disk Images, Dovecot, Directory Service, fetch mail, FTP Server, Help Viewer, Kernel, PHP, QuickDraw Manager and Spotlight.

One update fixes a hole in Adaptive Firewall that could allow a brute force or dictionary attack to guess an SSH log-in password, and another update addresses a vulnerability in Login Window that could allow a user to log in to any account without supplying a password.

Several updates address holes that could allow domain spoofing or man-in-the-middle attacks involving SSL (Secure Sockets Layer) used for encrypting data in transit, including a significant weakness in the X.509 protocol for generating SSL connections.

One of the updates affects the libsecurity feature and is billed as a "proactive change to protect users in advance of improved attacks against the MD2 hash algorithm" that could expose users to spoofing and information disclosure.

"There are known cryptographic weaknesses in the MD2 hash algorithm. Further research could allow the creation of X.509 certificates with attacker controlled values that are trusted by the system," the update says. "This could expose X.509 based protocols to spoofing, man in the middle attacks, and information disclosure. While it is not yet considered computationally feasible to mount an attack using these weaknesses, this update disables support for an X.509 certificate with an MD2 hash for any use other than as trusted root certificate."

That major weakness was revealed by security researcher Dan Kaminsky at the Defcon hacker conference in July. Kaminsky was able to trick a Certificate Authority into providing a certificate verifying authenticity for a domain that belonged to someone else.

The updates can be downloaded from Apple's site.

Elinor Mills covers Internet security and privacy. She joined CNET News in 2005 after working as a foreign correspondent for Reuters in Portugal and writing for The Industry Standard, the IDG News Service, and the Associated Press. E-mail Elinor.
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by Gold_Storm_Mac November 9, 2009 3:02 PM PST
installed 10.6.2
can log in guest account in peace.
glad to see apple being proactive. just wait for the pc trolls to be all over this one.
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by lazycat202 November 9, 2009 3:06 PM PST
you're the problem. I'm cool with it. Every OS have issues.
by sdf0013 November 9, 2009 3:07 PM PST
Okay, I'll bite. :)

but. But. BUT, it's a Mac!! It can't do that. It's just not possible to have a hole for an attacker to take advantage of your system. The commercials tell me constantly that only PCs have holes and need security patches. What's going on??? The world is coming unglued. Oh the horror!

Oh, I'm ever so confused now.
by Gold_Storm_Mac November 9, 2009 3:10 PM PST
what ads r u talkin about??
by The_happy_switcher November 9, 2009 3:22 PM PST
"The commercials tell me constantly that only PCs have holes and need security patches. " By all means, point a link to a Mac commercial that says they never need patching.

Thanks
by WhistlingPig November 9, 2009 3:24 PM PST
Everyone knows Apple's OSes are immune to Reality and Just Work. The dozens of fixes today are probably just no-op updates for a slow news day.

More importantly, we PC trolls don't care.

Have a nice day.
by cvaldes1831 November 9, 2009 3:37 PM PST
There are no Apple ads that explicitly state that only PCs need security patches. Some people are delusional.

Besides, Apple sells security software in their stores (bricks-and-mortars as well as online).
by sdf0013 November 9, 2009 6:58 PM PST
Sigh. It's just sarcasm guys.

Do Apple ads say specifically that the Mac platform never has those problems? No. But, you can't deny the ads are not specifically designed to let you make that connection on your own. It's just marketing. But, I've run into my share of fanboys that would make that claim.
by frankwick November 9, 2009 7:44 PM PST
The Apple ads never state that Macs are good. In fact, they rarely talk about Macs. They constantly berate Windows and leaves out a mention of OSX. As a result, uninformed people draw their own conclusions. Clever, but decieving ads.

I also find it funny that Apple fans describe patching as being proactive but when MS does it their software is buggy.
by Lennron November 9, 2009 7:46 PM PST
Hahaha. I love these boards. Apple is careful not to say that they don't have ANY problems at all. But don't kid yourself by pretending that their commercials aren't intentionally making people who don't know any better think that Macs have no problems what-so-ever. All sarcasim aside, just about any commerical that starts with "Hi, I'm a Mac." "And I'm a PC." pushes the message that Macs are flawless.
by Vegaman_Dan November 9, 2009 8:50 PM PST
@The_Happy_Switcher:

"By all means, point a link to a Mac commercial that says they never need patching."

Good point, but then the Apple ads haven't talked about what OS X can do for years now- they serve only as an attack vector against Windows. This has grown to the point where the hosts of MacBreak Weekly, a show dedicated to promotion of Apple products has called the ads "baldfaced lies", "childish", and "pathetic." It seems even Apple promoters are getting tired of it.

Really, I think Apple should talk about what their product CAN do instead of attacking others.
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by zsazso November 9, 2009 3:47 PM PST
Some people really are delusional.
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by Fire Balls November 9, 2009 3:58 PM PST
92%.......
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by ittesi259 November 9, 2009 4:05 PM PST
Were there any exploits currently out in the wild that anyone can confirm?
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by MaLvaDo39 November 9, 2009 4:13 PM PST
Still 100% virus free :)
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by exactlyy November 9, 2009 4:40 PM PST
tell that to Norton anti viruse and Mcafee they update their Virus Definitions for OS X daily .
by frankwick November 9, 2009 7:45 PM PST
huh?
by Vegaman_Dan November 9, 2009 8:52 PM PST
As long as you don't connect to the internet, then yes, it is virus free. However, if you continue to live with your head stuck in the sand, you'll never see it coming either.
by ITDph November 10, 2009 5:45 AM PST
The only reason I would install virus software on my Mac is to prevent from inadvertently sending an email with an attached PC virus to a colleague. If there are any Mac viruses, and I'm sure there are, I sure haven't been attacked by them when I use my MacBook Pro. But I'm sure glad that I have Microsoft Security Essentials installed on my HP Laptop because it seems there is a potential attack from just surfing every 3 to 4 days. And I know what it's like not to have virus software installed on a PC. Just look at my neighbors that come ask for my advice when their computers are running slow and it turns out they're inundated with viruses even with their Norton Antivirus installed.
by Dalkorian November 10, 2009 11:33 AM PST
Sigh. Hey Dan, why don't you name just one virus that affects OS X. I know you didn't say that, but you certainly implied it with that "don't connect to the internet" comment.

Careful now, you do understand the differences between a "virus", a "worm" and a "trojan", right?
by Mr. Dee November 9, 2009 4:20 PM PST
A hole new world, a hole new fantastic point of view
No one tell us no, or where to go...

You Apple Zealots must be enjoying your bug fix for the bug fix and on top of that what the bug fixed got more bug fixes.
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by Gold_Storm_Mac November 9, 2009 4:29 PM PST
see!!!
last update for os x was 2 months ago. unlike windows which just had some not long ago. but thats not the issue. apple is covering up many holes before rapid exposure to the market.
by ckh1272 November 9, 2009 6:53 PM PST
@Mr. Dee--Despite your wonderful insight, may I offer a bit of advice. Go away until you actually have something useful to say. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to finish the sixth Vista update in two months.
by exactlyy November 9, 2009 7:10 PM PST
@ ckh1272
i bet the all the 6 update you installed for vista in the last 2 months are windows defenders. and all of them are less than 10 MB
but 43 security fixes for a service pack ? sorry , cant take it
by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 12:14 AM PST
"by exactlyy November 9, 2009 7:10 PM PST
@ ckh1272
i bet the all the 6 update you installed for vista in the last 2 months are windows defenders. and all of them are less than 10 MB
but 43 security fixes for a service pack ? sorry , cant take it"

@exactlly--The last update had six "security updates for Vista" and two "Defender definition updates". Next ignorant question? Oh, the size of the file is irrelevant. Also, it's funny with some of you people out there (mac and windows users alike). You complain if they (Apple and Microsoft) don't update them and you complain if and when they do. I guess that's life in the "cyberworld".
by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 12:18 AM PST
@exactlly--13 patches aimed at fixing 34 vulnerabilities on big patch Tuesday back in October. Think those were all defender updates??
by Mr. Dee November 10, 2009 4:19 AM PST
@ckh1272 13 patches aimed at fixing 34 vulnerabilities.

I noticed you mentioned Windows Vista which was released 3 years ago. I was comparing the latest versions of Windows and Mac OS X. Snow Leopard was released just 2 months ago and its suppose to be a bug fix for problems in Leopard. Windows 7 does have a barrage of updates and it RTMed in July 2009. Notice your double standard before you blabber on here about Vista vs Snow Leopard.
by exactlyy November 10, 2009 4:21 AM PST
"@exactlly--13 patches aimed at fixing 34 vulnerabilities on big patch Tuesday back in October. Think those were all defender updates??"

but microsoft never claimed that windows is the most secure OS around "they do say that win 7 is the most secure OS made by Microsoft" on the other hand apple always try to give a false image about their OS .
when they claim its the most secure OS and that it just works and all of a sudden you get a huge patch that fixes 43 security holes..then there is something wrong ..and SL was rushed .
by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 8:55 AM PST
@Mr. Dee--So you admit that Windows 7 has already its fair share of updates, right? So why the double standard and slamming Apple for doing updates. Once again, you people would bi@%h if they didn't update and do the same thing if they did. Move along and enjoy whatever you happen to be using. The same thing applies to the Apple zealots complaining about Microsoft. Understand that now??
by shuyin84 November 12, 2009 9:36 AM PST
@ Gold_storm_Mac- to be fair microsoft fixed bugs in windows 7 before it was rapidly exposed as well, actually i think it was a week or 2 before it was realesed. :)
by HomerSmi November 9, 2009 4:32 PM PST
I shudder to think what Apple's security reputation would be if they had the marketshare Windows PCs have. Apple's products "just work"? Yeah right. No they don't. Every high-tech product has problems. Apple is just lucky that they have such fervent supporters, tiny marketshare and the "Steve Jobs reality distortion field". If it was any other company, it would be ripped to shreds over 43 security fixes.
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by Gold_Storm_Mac November 9, 2009 4:33 PM PST
but we dont know that.
by SteveW928 November 9, 2009 11:58 PM PST
@ HomerSmi -

"I shudder to think what Apple's security reputation would be if they had the marketshare Windows PCs have."

Isn't this kind of an irrelevant point until it happens? OSX is currently a safer place to be, unless someone is specifically targeting you (and then it depends on the knowledge/talent of whoever is attacking as to which is safer). If, one day, Apple's market share grows greatly or becomes dominant.... AND they haven't fixed their security... AND I start getting attacked at the level most of my Windows using friends do.... I'LL SWITCH (to something else).

"Apple's products "just work"? Yeah right. No they don't. Every high-tech product has problems."

You're right, every tech product does have problems. The question is more around quantity and quality (or severity) of the problems. I've been using Macs and PCs (I say PCs, because I was using them before Windows) for MANY years now, and there generally has been a quantifiable difference in what I've been able to do on either, or what my clients have been able to accomplish in either case. Call it what you like... some people say that as 'just works'. Of course that is just a pithy kind of marketing slogan, but it is pointing to a reality. I doubt anyone is fooled into thinking Mac's 'just work' in the sense you're trying to say. That said, I guess my parents (who never touched a computer in their life previously) were able to set their iMac up, get it on the Internet, and install some remote control software so that I could help them from there... in like an hour with no help. Does that roughly qualify for 'just works'? Shall I compare that to my in-laws experience with their Windows machine some day for you?

"Apple is just lucky that they have such fervent supporters, tiny marketshare and the "Steve Jobs reality distortion field"."

Hmm... or could it be that there is some actual reason they have fervent supporters? Their market-share size has little to do with 'luck', and more to do with M$'s illegal activities over the years and some REALLY REALLY bad management at Apple while Jobs was away. Re: Job's RDF... I've stood 5 feet from him, and didn't really like Macs any more at that point than when I'm 1000's of miles away. All I can say.... is that if one must pick a Steve to follow... Fortune CEO of the decade or Monkey boy? Seriously!

"If it was any other company, it would be ripped to shreds over 43 security fixes."

That might be. However, reputation is generally an earned thing. There is a reason Apple is more respected than many of these 'other companies' that might get ripped, as you say.
by TheHBK23 November 9, 2009 4:42 PM PST
Does this fix the spinning wheel on Safari? Especially when I try to use anything that has a flash video, because if not, I will be going back to Windows 7 to watch my adult entertainment.
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by Gold_Storm_Mac November 9, 2009 4:49 PM PST
spinning wheel aint going anywhere. software will always be buggy
by Perry_Clease November 9, 2009 5:32 PM PST
"spinning wheel aint going anywhere. software will always be buggy'

Yup, Flash.
by scifiend November 10, 2009 11:23 PM PST
What spinning wheel? Why do you use safari anyway?
by shuyin84 November 12, 2009 9:37 AM PST
by any chance do you dual boot windows vista on your Mac, might be the issue, tends to happen when microsoft is around
by November 9, 2009 6:10 PM PST
What's this, Mac OSX has bugs and vulnerabilities? I thought only Windows had those issues. *wink*
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by Dalkorian November 10, 2009 11:37 AM PST
Why do winblows prostitutes always pull out this garbage argument? It's like they have to prove to the entire world that they haven't got the brains to understand the difference between a patched vulnerability and an exploit in the wild.
by scifiend November 10, 2009 11:26 PM PST
Yeah I don't know what they're talking about, I download tons of free porn, open every email attachment and use .docx formats all the time and I still don't have any viruses!
Yawn
Maybe it would be better to get self esteem than attack smug apple users...nah!
by exactlyy November 9, 2009 6:35 PM PST
43 Security fixes ?? and a service pack for 20 USD 2 weeks after SL was released ? cmon , thats a joke
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by ckh1272 November 9, 2009 6:55 PM PST
@exactlyy--$20 US after the SL release. What "exactlyy" are you smoking??
by exactlyy November 9, 2009 7:06 PM PST
you didnt pay 20 USD or it was 30 USD ? for the 1st patch for snow leopard ?
and i'm smoking Rothmans :D
by Gold_Storm_Mac November 9, 2009 7:27 PM PST
here we go again. as if pc fans will never learn. go read about sl then make an opinion about it.
by Lennron November 9, 2009 7:54 PM PST
@ Gold_Storm_Mac

I'm a PC fan. I don't have to read about SL to make an opinion because I own it. Do you have it? And if so, do you honestly think it was worth $30? I sure don't. It feels like a SP and a couple minor updates that Microsoft gives out for free.
by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 12:21 AM PST
@exactlyy--This is your post:"43 Security fixes ?? and a service pack for 20 USD 2 weeks after SL was released ? cmon , thats a joke"

Now please explain to me where it was 20 USD two weeks after SL was released. If you can't keep your facts straight, I would say you have something else in those Rothmans.
by Dalkorian November 10, 2009 11:45 AM PST
@ Lennron, stop lying, it isn't very becoming.

I have SL on my mini at work and have been very happy with it. It didn't bring the usual feature additions, but I was able to read *AND COMPREHEND WHAT I READ* and didn't expect a bunch of new features either. It's stable, it's fast and for me it just works as advertised. What it did bring to the table is all under the hood (Grand Central, OpenCL, full 64 bit integration, Intel optimization).

People who bought SL hoping for lots of new eye candy were disappointed, but I fear they couldn't read very well anyway since no one claimed Snow Leopard would be drastically different from Leopard. Gee, even the names are similar!
by Lennron November 10, 2009 11:58 AM PST
@ Dalkorian

I'm not lying. I didn't say SL was worthless, I was saying that the improvements weren't worth the $30 I paid for it. It did "just work" as advertised (I haven't experienced any data loss that I've been reading about) but Windows just works for me too without any of the issues people complain about. And getting the Windows 7 on preorder for $50 made the $30 for Leopard feel like a complete rip off.
by Gold_Storm_Mac November 10, 2009 1:46 PM PST
running sl now. experienced better performance especially when shutting down and the new preview features for annotations were helpful. Quicktime X is a joy to watch. Love the new desktop pics, new contextual menus on the dock with beautiful charcoal theme. new minimizing abilities and that integration with expose. being able to preview pp files has been extremely helpful. fewer apps have crashed. the list goes on...
by Vepar_S November 9, 2009 7:49 PM PST
Just stopping by to make some Apple fans upset, and prove my point of Mac-heads insecurity.....HAHA!! How does reality feel? EVERY OS has flaws Mac is no different......HAHA!

Yeah so now reply to this Mac-heads.....You will only give me what I want.

Mac=OVERRATED

HAHA!
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by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 3:49 AM PST
Silly comments like yours=OVERRATED.
by lazycat202 November 10, 2009 7:06 AM PST
iMac is expensive! that's why we expect it to be perfect and secured!!! *bowing*
by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 8:01 AM PST
Dell Adamos are expensive too so they should be perfect as well, right??
by lazycat202 November 10, 2009 6:06 PM PST
that's why i won't spend my $$ on it. duh!
by Vegaman_Dan November 9, 2009 8:54 PM PST
Let's just start referring to these as "Patch Monday" and be done with it. Perhaps we can have Linux patches released on Wednesdays to keep the theme going.
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by Dalkorian November 10, 2009 11:46 AM PST
I consistently find it amazing how you can warp everything into a pro-M$ argument. They must pay you well.
by shuyin84 November 12, 2009 9:42 AM PST
Well then I guess that makes Microsoft Patch Days tuesdays, thursdays, fridays, saturdays, sundays, and since windows 7 was based off OSX (a microcrap employee said so himself) then I guess they''' take mondays too.
by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 2:08 AM PST
Just my two cents, but if there are any Mac users who actually believe that their systems are perfect and free from harm, you are being ignorant. Any Windows user who believes that all Mac users are the same regarding this stance are being just as ignorant.
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by shellcodes_coder November 10, 2009 2:18 AM PST
This $30 service pack is full of bugs and security holes!! Nonetheless that's not gonna stop Charlie Miller from again gaining control of OS X SL n the first place EASILY in another hacking contest!!
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by shellcodes_coder November 10, 2009 2:24 AM PST
475 MB? Oh man, that's too big!! It's much better to get security updates every week rather than waiting for months and downloading 100s of MB of updates as opposed to downloading few MB of updates every week :)
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by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 3:14 AM PST
The only thing that is too big around is your ego which like a balloon can be easily deflated. When Apple releases a "patch", be it for security, iTunes, Quicktime, etc., the downloaded file replaces the original file instead of "adding" the update to the present file. It's a little strange and can be time consuming if you don't have broadband, but it normally works without hitch, so the file size isn't that big of a deal. Of course, you wouldn't know this and probably don't care but the balloon is deflated none the less. Oh and since you love to rehash things, remember that Charlie couldn't get into anything on the first day via remote access. It took local access to make that happen, which any hacker with a brain can do. Hell, give me local access and I'll figure out a way to do some damage.
by lazycat202 November 10, 2009 7:04 AM PST
my XP tiny version has only 75MB. yup! whole OS!
by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 8:02 AM PST
Ignorance is everlasting I guess. How "small" was Vista BTW? Vista Basic takes up 13GB of one of my systems.
by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 8:05 AM PST
@lazycat-That's some nice math BTW considering XP service pack 3 was 316MB. Want to explain that one again??
by Gold_Storm_Mac November 10, 2009 1:48 PM PST
took only a few minutes to download.
by lazycat202 November 10, 2009 3:34 PM PST
ckh and gold

didn't you know that WinXP Tiny Rev09 got only 75MB on it? Service Pack 3 Final (Build 5512) is included. However, the it's installed, the whole HD will have around 250MB. Awesome huh?
gosh!
by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 7:21 PM PST
Sorry lazycat202 but there are lies and then there are your lies. That 316MB for XP SP 3 is straight from Microsoft. Try looking it up sometime.
by lazycat202 November 11, 2009 3:38 PM PST
do you know what Tiny version is? oh sorry! Apple blinds you and all you know is Apple!! Tiny version means users took out unwanted drivers and apps from the OS itself IE, Media Play, Paint, etc..). Even firewall and System Restore are gone. :P

grow up!
by ckh1272 November 12, 2009 8:42 AM PST
@lazycat202--You really don't have a clue do you? Of course you can have a tiny install by leaving off 3/4 of the components. Here's the question for you mister grown up. Why would you do that? Are you saying you don't need a firewall with XP (which it didn't originally come with in the first place, hence service pack 2), a way to do a proper restore, don't need a media player to play your porn? Seems like you are the one that needs to grow up. Every OS I have ever installed gives you the option to leave certain things off, which includes Mac OS, Windows anything, Linux, you name it. My point is (which you missed in spades) that the "stock" OS is bigger than you make it out to be. Next time, if you're going to claim a "tiny" install, just say it up front, instead of making a fool of yourself later.
by exactlyy November 10, 2009 4:40 AM PST
if you don't care much about choice, choose Apple.
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by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 8:06 AM PST
Pure ignorance but not surprising given your other comments.
by exactlyy November 10, 2009 9:57 AM PST
" by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 8:06 AM PST ,Pure ignorance but not surprising given your other comments. "
yeah saying truth nowadays is ignorance ,
when you cant upgrade your MAC hardware, and when you cant even built you system with better hardwares for 1/3 of the price , and when you cant even use a 3 years old software "photoshop CS3" so you have to buy CS4 for as low as 400 USD then once again .. if you don't care much about choice, choose Apple
and let $teve Job$ picks whatever he hinks is good for you after all
Communism owns .
by Dalkorian November 10, 2009 11:49 AM PST
I thought ignorance was bliss, so why does this exactlyy troll seem so agitated? Is it because it doesn't have enough brains to realize it's misspelled it's own name?
by exactlyy November 10, 2009 1:27 PM PST
@ Dalkorian
Hello Mr. Borat
1st off , maybe the name " exactly" was just registerd ? so i had to register somthing close to what i wanted and i had to make it "excatlyy" ?
2nd.. you cant judge someone's intelligent by his english, maybe its my 3rd or 4th language ? and you saying
"Is it because it doesn't have enough brains to realize it's misspelled it's own name" shows that your english is far behind my english , but that doesnt make me any smarter than you, and any stupid, homeless in America can speak english Fluently but that doesnt make them smart people.. Bush could speak english Fluently but that didnt stop the whole world from calling him i-d-i-o-t .
when a MAC troll like Dalkorian cant answer why apple is overpriced and why you cant do whatever you want with your machine they start to act like smart, special and above other people level and a little bit below God level .. in the process they show how r-etard and dumb a human being with a MAC could be .
by ckh1272 November 10, 2009 7:24 PM PST
@exactlyy--Stop reading the BS stories already. I have had SL for a month now with CS 3 and it has run without a hitch. I am not saying other people aren't having problems, but people like you love taking the minority and turning it into the majority. Oh, and I know for a fact that you cannot built a MacPro equivalent system for a 1/3 of the price. A little less, yes, but a 1/3?? Step away from the methane.
by exactlyy November 11, 2009 1:39 AM PST
@ ckh1272 .
actually you are a liar . less than 2 months ago and in a topic here @download.com i asked you , if it was fair to force someone who baught CS3 a month ago to upgrade to CS4 for $400 , you said yes its fair and its their fault for gettin CS3 , right ? or i am supposed to get you the link where you said that ? you know that CS3 runs like s-h-i-t on SL
and you also know its not supported by adobe so i guess you installed Win7 on you Mac and thats how you run your CS3 or even photoshop 5 .

about 1/3 of the price .. yes thats very true .. less than month ago i built my PC..got all its hardwares from Newegg after checking the apple shop , the best desktop they offer is the iBook 27-inch: 2.66GHz for $ 2000 , please correct me if i am mistaken .
i got better hardware , insted of i5 processor i got i7 "you can upgrade ibook to i7 but you have to pay extra $200 "
and 8 GB or RAM , not only 4
much better GFX with 1024 MB " apple gives you only 512 and much better Asus MOBO
and LG W2753V-PF Black 27" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor
net cost is 1100 USD so thats almost half the price for imba hardware that can run SL "hackintoch" much better than it can run on the best ibook offerd by MAC and for half the price ..and if i got AMD phoneom x2 or i5 processor and only 4 GB of memory and same gfx as in iBook , it'd have costed me less than 800 USD .
by ckh1272 November 11, 2009 8:21 AM PST
@exactlyy--ibook?? Seriously? It's an iMac genius. Also, my comparison was based on the Mac Pro, but thanks for paying attention. Oh, and yes, show me the link about CS4. I can 100% promise you that I did not say anything like that. I know there were some statements regarding that, but not by me, so by all means show me private investigator. Basically, if you can;t keep your facts straight, don't reply to people who know better than to fall for your constant BS.
by ckh1272 November 11, 2009 8:23 AM PST
@exactlyy--BTW, the iMac does not compete with tower systems. It competes with all in one systems (like the Dell XPS studios), of which it is quite competitive. You would know that if you took off those blinders.
by ckh1272 November 11, 2009 8:30 AM PST
@exactlyy--Also, the equivalent processor in the base Mac Pro is $999.99 but keep on with the FUD by all means. I mean, you already know the difference between a iBook (I mean iMac) and a Mac Pro right?? LOL!! Remember, you busted yourself on that one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115212
by ckh1272 November 11, 2009 8:38 AM PST
@exactlyy--I retract the Newegg price, as they do not sell the Xeon cpu that Mac Pros use. I just looked up something interesting regarding the Xeons used in the Mac Pro though. Now bearing in mind that the prices have dropped since Feb. 09, but an update to the towers are coming real soon. Read on:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=17080
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by krazytrixxxsta November 11, 2009 5:15 AM PST
mac lovers and pc lovers, can we all just get along?
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by shuyin84 November 12, 2009 9:46 AM PST
no
by tsinger254 November 11, 2009 10:11 AM PST
REAL pc users just don't care. Really.
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