Phished or not, leaked passwords show lazy habits
It's still unclear exactly how 20,000 passwords discovered on the Web recently were stolen, but the finding reveals much in the way of people's password habits: some of us are lazy.
Several lists of passwords from Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo Mail, and other accounts were discovered and reported on earlier in the week. While, Microsoft, Google, and Yahoo are blaming phishing, a researcher at ScanSafe thinks password-stealing malware on computers could be the culprit, which would mean that more than just the Web e-mail accounts may have been compromised.
More on that later. First, let's look at what an analysis of the leaked passwords reveals.
Security researcher Bogdan Calin did a statistical analysis of the list of more than 10,000 Windows Live Hotmail passwords and wrote about his findings on the Acunetix blog. He discovered that the most common password was "123456," used for 64 of the passwords. In second place was "123456789," used for 18 of them. Also, 42 percent of the passwords used only lower case letters.
While that shows some people aren't exercising caution in securing their e-mail accounts, other statistics reveal that many people are putting more thought into it.
For instance, 30 percent used a combination of uppercase and lowercase letters and numbers. Twenty-two percent of the passwords used six characters, 14 percent used seven, 21 percent used eight, and 12 percent used nine characters. One account even had a password that was 30 characters long.
"My impression is that these passwords have been gathered using phishing kits," Calin writes. "Even more, the phishing kit used most probably was badly designed, since it was one that didn't further authenticate the users to the Hotmail/Live Web site. I think it just returned an error message after grabbing the credentials. I noticed this because some of the passwords are repeated once or twice (sometimes with different capitalization). What most probably happened, is that the users didn't understand what was happening, and they tried to enter the same password again and again, thinking the password was wrong."
Mary Landesman, senior security researcher at ScanSafe, theorizes that passwords were obtained by a data-stealing Trojan horse and not phishing.
There are errors in the list of Hotmail passwords that appear to be the result of improper extracting or merging data, she writes on the ScanSafe blog.
Among other reasons, Landesman notes that usernames often appear multiple times with the same password except for a slightly different spelling. Also, she said the "@" separating the username from the account is not always present, which could indicate that the data was pieced together from a form or was extracted from a larger set of data.
Asked to comment on Landesman's speculation, Microsoft and Yahoo representatives said the companies still think the passwords were phished.
A Google spokesman offered this comment: "Passwords can be compromised in multiple ways, so it's a good idea to take several steps to help protect your personal information. Select unique passwords, especially on your most important Web sites, and use antivirus software to help detect software that may try to steal your password."
It's important to remember that phishing can lead to the download of malware onto a victim's computer. So people may never been known what happened.
Regardless, be careful out there.
(Related: See Larry Magid's story for tips on making strong, easy-to-remember passwords.)
Update, 1:20 p.m. PDT on October 9: The list of passwords analyzed apparently was limited to usernames starting with A and B, which is not exactly a representative sample but could explain the use of Spanish words beginning with "A."
Elinor Mills covers Internet security and privacy. She joined CNET News in 2005 after working as a foreign correspondent for Reuters in Portugal and writing for The Industry Standard, the IDG News Service, and the Associated Press. E-mail Elinor. 




"So again it was the mor0n user, not the OS, that was responsible for this security breach."
It's people who used pirated and/or unpatched software, who use passwords like 123456, and who click on the pop window saying "virus found, please enter your social security number" who are the real threat.
a. have limited technical knowledge but think they have lots.
b. don't read beyond the headlines and then draw their own conclusion.
I'm saying this in the knowledge that some of the people reading this comment may use/have used these passwords, and some of them might have had their passwords stolen. I'm still not taking this back. It's true.
We live in a world where every site asks for a different username and password. There is no consistency. If the handle you have for everything isn't available, suddenly you get new usernames. Suddenly the site will require a larger (or smaller!!) character limit. So another password. There is only so much you can manage without breaching security in another way (eg writing them down or over simplifying it all).
What we need is some stanards across the web. For example, if it isn't an email address, make the username the email address. That way, if the handle is taken, the user isn't inventing yet another username to remember. Who cares what your handle is if your username is the same? (in terms of security that is).
Just an idea, but I do believe the passwords issue is of major concern. I work for a multinational with multiple custom systems, none of which have the same username password etc. It is insane. Then add to that all the personal ones, it becomes ridiculous.
What's an upper-case number look like?
!@#$%^&*() /joke
For blogs like this I don't care too much about passwords; I am using a throw-away email address and a nom-de-plume. However, I have concerns about some more important sites that want a password but won't let you use more than 8-10 characters and none of them special.
For instance, my passwords would generally seem like a load of gobbleydoop to someone who hasn't read a certain number of books i've read, and would be nigh-impossible to guess, but if you've read these books, then you'll probably recognise them and find them easy to remember. It all depends :)
A hacker wouldn't use tools that is smarter than that.
Its like the TSA padding you down at the airport and make you feel safer from terrorists. It really doesn't but makes you think you are more secure. If you are a hacker using good tools, you can crack a password of 123456 as easily as oqiweurqeru.
The ultimate irony is that people end up writing them down. The more complex, the more demands placed on them by the system, the harder it is to remember. Surely, if you have to write the password down, then you've got a more insecure situation than a simpler or 'bad' password?
I don't have the answers, but I do think that IT 'experts' with their best practice theory have just that - text book styled theory and no concept of the real world and what users face - particularly those in corporate business environments (who'll have dozens of passwords for their work, then dozens more for personal stuff, then all your banking on top, it is endless!)
Second, I was under the impression (or hoped maybe) such big services would care to require from their users to use passwords with at least some kind of combination of numbers/alphabets/special chars.
On a side note: Apparently 7 users are in love with their emails!
It is like blame someone who did not install more locks when his/her home was broken into.
This is a worldwide issue. We need better boarder patrols.
Meanwhile, a related pet peeve of mine: Sites that won't tell you their username and password rules if you've forgotten your information. Often merely knowing their rules is enough to jog my memory, but the site won't tell me, so I need to change my password to yet a different forgettable. :-)
And what a great idea - tell me the rules! I use basically 3 words for all my passwords but they have varients depnding on the rules of the site (eg if capitalisation is required, numbers etc). I now use the capitalised, numbered version always, but many accounts predate that.
Auto sign in is another factor for forgetting passwords. I have no idea what one of my gmail account passwords is - why? My browser always auto signed me in. I have another gmail account that automatically checks that particular account too. I can't request a new password because the reference email account was for a previous ISP so that email no longer exists, so they'd send the password to a dead end. I can't log in to the account properly to change the password and reference email account because i don't know the password... So now, with the cookies deleted, I have no possible chance of ever knowing the password nor changing it. I can only use it because of this second gmail account that accesses it. Sounds pretty confused? Yup, but not an uncommon reality.
Dark Helmet: One.
Colonel Sandurz: One.
Roland: Two.
Dark Helmet: Two.
Colonel Sandurz: Two.
Roland: Three.
Dark Helmet: Three.
Colonel Sandurz: Three.
Roland: Four.
Dark Helmet: Four.
Colonel Sandurz: Four.
Roland: Five.
Dark Helmet: Five.
Colonel Sandurz: Five.
Dark Helmet: So the combination is... one, two, three, four, five? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life! The kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!
-mark beadles
For the other Luddite on here, there's a fascinating article on the origination of that word on another site whose name I'm not permitted to mention. TECHNIA-cal anyone?
one....two....one...two... hmm, I think I just thought of another one...
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