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January 12, 2010 4:00 AM PST

Camera showdown: Nexus One vs. iPhone 3GS

by Josh Lowensohn

Rumors cropped up last week that Apple had put down a big order for LED flashes, something useful for one thing, and one thing only: a digital camera. It doesn't take much to figure that the next iteration of the iPhone is likely to be packing one of these, since many of the latest cell phones--including HTC's recently released Nexus One, now have them included.

The Nexus One's 5-megapixel camera also has an LED-powered flash.

(Credit: Josh Lowensohn/CNET)

That got me thinking: how does the Nexus One's 5-megapixel camera and its eye-searing flash stack up against the 3-megapixel flashless camera module of the now-aging iPhone 3GS? Is the ability to take bigger and better-lit photos worth touting as the end-all, be-all feature among smartphone cameras? The easiest way to figure that out is to run a few tests.

Full disclosure here: I'm not a camera-testing expert. I am an avid photographer with a handful of pro gear, as well as a few high school and college photography courses under my belt. I'm not even going to try to get into things like testing dynamic range, color sensitivity, signal-to-noise ratio, etc. So instead, I've set up the two cameras to take essentially the same photo in various situations, to see how the two stack up.

All photos in this comparison were taken within the same minute of each other, while balanced from a leveled tripod to maintain the same height and distance. Images were then transferred directly from the devices for analysis. All comparison shots are presented side by size, at full quality, without any recompression or conversion. Any timings were done with a stopwatch.

Basic lens specifications

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Apple iPhone 3GS

  • 3-megapixel camera (resolution: 2048x1536 pixels)
  • autofocus (can also be set by touching the screen to select focal point)
  • aperture: f2.8
  • focal length: 3.85mm (37mm equivalent)

HTC Nexus One

  • 5-megapixel camera (resolution: 2592x1944 pixels)
  • autofocus
  • LED flash (optional)
  • aperture: f2.8
  • focal length: 4.31mm (35mm equivalent)

It's worth noting that Apple is a little more liberal with the camera metadata, something the Nexus One could gain in a future software update. Right now, any photos snapped on it come without things like ISO, exposure time, aperture, and the lens' fixed focal length. However, both come with embedded GPS metadata, which makes for easy geotagging. It's just surprising that Google would have location, but not some of the more rudimentary camera info, within its metadata.

Camera speed

Time to boot built-in camera app:

  • iPhone 3GS: about 2.5 seconds
  • Nexus One: About a second

Lag between pressing the button, getting the shot, then returning to on-screen preview for next shot:

  • iPhone 3GS: A little less than 2 seconds
  • Nexus One: A little less than 2 seconds

Macro focus

Macro photo testing was done with a tape measure and a shipping box.

(Credit: Josh Lowensohn/CNET)

A camera's macro-focusing capabilities are no minor benchmark. This is how good your camera is at focusing as close to a subject as possible. This is most useful for taking shots of business cards, bar codes, and QR codes.

Between the two, the 3GS gives users a bit more control over what area they want to focus on, allowing users to simply touch the phone's screen to select the part of the photo they'd like in focus. The Nexus One, on the other hand, does the thinking for users, putting things into focus as it sees fit. In other words, users don't really know what the camera will focus on until after it takes the picture.

For our testing, we set a tape measure out across a table, and moved a labeled box closer and closer to the phone's camera, until it reached an optimal focus. For the iPhone, that length was 2.5 inches on the dot. A centimeter closer, and it lost a noticeable amount of sharpness. The Nexus One was able to pull in just a tad (and we do mean a tad) closer than the iPhone, coming in at 2.4 inches. To take it a step further, you can pull in both phones to about an inch of a subject and still have details such as text be legible. It's just not anywhere near as sharp as it is from 2.5 inches and beyond.

Both cameras' close-focusing capabilities are to be commended, but between the two, we'd happily put the 3GS out as the victor. Despite it's 0.1-inch disability, it lets you see what will be in focus before you take the shot. It also refocuses as you get closer or farther away from your subject, which the Nexus One does not.

Low-light sensitivity

Low-light performance is one of the big differentiators between these two cameras. Any camera nerd will likely scoff at the low-light capabilities of a camera phone and its tiny sensor, but in real-world use, this ends up being important. Having a camera you can use with less-than-ideal lighting can be incredibly valuable.

The first part of the low-light test has both cameras taking photos in a darkened room, with very little available lighting. And the second test compares the iPhone to the Nexus One in an even darker room, with the Nexus One's flash on.

Darkened room

The iPhone 3GS versus the Nexus One, from the same height and distance (in low light). Click to enlarge.

(Credit: Josh Lowensohn/CNET)

Darker room

The iPhone versus the Nexus One in a very dark room. The third shot makes use of the Nexus One's flash. Click to enlarge.

(Credit: Josh Lowensohn/CNET)

Low-light noise

Pixel noise from the same shot, seen in its native resolution.

(Credit: Josh Lowensohn/CNET)

Worth noting is that the Nexus One had considerably less noisy phones than the iPhone in identical situations. Even with plenty of available light, the iPhone's photos still had a noticeable amount of grain, when viewed at 100 percent.

That said, the noise on the iPhone can be more pleasing. Take a look at the shot from the darkened room: there were fewer blue color aberrations within the grain, the kind you can really see when viewed on a large monitor or photo print. Such things can be removed in post-processing, but it's nice to start out with fewer.

Distortion

Both cameras exhibited very little distortion--at least not enough to ruin your photos, if you're taking shots of things like buildings. Straight lines stay straight, and subjects that appear in the corners of the frame do not look bent or stretched. This isn't very surprising, given that both lenses have fixed focal lengths and aren't very wide.

Focal length

The iPhone's focal length is 3.85mm, but because of the tiny sensor's crop factor, this ends up being equivalent to a 37mm lens. The Nexus One is noticeably wider, despite being rated at just 2mm less. Shots taken with it, from the same place as with an iPhone, show much more of the scene within the frame. Using the Nexus One is basically like taking a big step back, if you were to be using the iPhone. This can come in handy, if you're snapping pictures in a small room, or trying to get a tall building into your shot without having to change positions.

Other notes

• Both cameras make it easy to see what's in the frame with a large preview display. Between the two, the Nexus One's higher-resolution OLED screen presents a more vibrant image with noticeably deeper blacks. It also has a faster frame rate, leaving less on-screen blurring when you're framing your subject.

Android's camera app has a number of advanced settings the iPhone's stock camera does not offer.

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• The Nexus One's camera app comes with a number of advanced settings the iPhone's stock camera app does not. This includes the options to turn the flash on and off, to tweak the white balance, to apply a digital color filter, to pick the quality and size of the shot, to change the focus mode to infinity, and to turn geotagging on or off.

• The Nexus One's camera lens is protected by the back of the phone's case, which can be removed to access the battery, SIM card, and MicroSD slot. This could lead to a wealth of aftermarket camera add-ons, which, for the iPhone, have come in the form of cases.

• Photos taken on the Nexus One are automatically stored to the microSD memory card, meaning that you can retrieve your photos, even if the rest of the phone goes kaput.


Conclusions

Unfair comparisons aside (we are, after all, comparing newer technology to older), it's pretty clear that the Nexus One's camera is more capable than what's found in Apple's 3GS. Was this a surprise? No. But it is great to see how big of a gap there is between the hardware packed into a device unveiled in June of last year and the hardware we're getting in January of this year.

Even better, both of these cameras can be augmented with extra hardware goodies that can make photo taking in new directions (the Nexus One especially, as noted above). Software can help a phone's camera go far beyond its stock capabilities. This has already been proven true on both platforms, which have a myriad of camera apps, though Android developers continue to have the problem of an increasingly wider range of hardware they need to support.

The most surprising difference in the two cameras is the difference in the low-light performance. When you're shooting in a dark or darkened room, you're going to want a camera with a flash. Otherwise, you end up with a grainy, almost-unviewable shot. This was most apparent in our poster picture from the darker-room test above. Whereas the iPhone came out on top in picking up the poster with no flash (likely due to a higher baseline ISO), it got blown away, in terms of colors, sharpness, and noise, when the Nexus One got to break out its flash.

Of course, neither of these phone cameras is as desirable as a point-and-shoot or, even better, a real SLR with a big, light-sucking sensor in it. But in a pinch, I'd take the camera on the Nexus One over the iPhone's any day. Even without the flash.

Correction at 9:01 a.m. PST: The article incorrectly stated the megapixels for the iPhone 3GS camera. It offers 3 megapixels.

Update at 10:15 a.m. PST on 1/13/2010: Added focal length and aperture of the Nexus One's camera, as supplied by HTC.

Josh Lowensohn writes about Web start-ups, video games, multimedia tools, and the occasional robot. He joined CNET in 2006, and posts to the Web Crawler and Webware blogs. E-mail Josh, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/Josh.
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by KiokuMizu January 12, 2010 4:07 AM PST
I could have sworn the iPhone 3GS has a 3 MP camera, not a 3.2 MP.
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by Josh.Lowensohn January 12, 2010 9:07 AM PST
Yeah you're right. It's listed as 3, although it's actually 3.1. Just fixed.
by ballmerisanape January 12, 2010 9:09 AM PST
I think 3.2 is right. He forgot to mention.. (at least I didnt see it)... that you can set the white balance by touching different parts of the screen (touching a spot with low light brightens the rest of the picture, etc ).... not the same as a flash, but can dramatically effect the amount of "light" you see in a picture.
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by ballmerisanape January 12, 2010 2:09 PM PST
Josh.. you should add this too... as it is relevant in your comparison.. especially in the low light shots (hint: the exposure will vary depending on the focus) ;)

"Tap where you want to focus. Camera automatically adjusts the exposure for the selected area of the image."

http://www.apple.com/iphone/how-to/#camera.taking-photos-and-recording-videos
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by ballmerisanape January 13, 2010 11:33 AM PST
Also... I just noticed something that is flat out wrong in the article...

"The Nexus One's camera app comes with a number of advanced settings the iPhone's stock camera app does not. This includes the options to turn the flash on and off, +++to tweak the white balance+++"

As mentioned on Apple's iphone site....and just about every review of the iphone 3gs.... you have fine control of the white balance and exposure. Not just on or off... but live feedback by tapping the picture in various places. Sorry if I am beating a dead horse.. but it was a pretty big omission.. especially considering the comment above.
by Someone-else January 15, 2010 5:43 AM PST
The megapixel count is just a matter of how it's rounded, as there are some standard sizes, all cameras referred as 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2 shoot images in 2048x768*2, so they are actually 3.145728 megapixels, making it 3.0, 3.1 or 3.2 is just a matter of how the manufacturer rounded it.
by seven7dust January 12, 2010 4:37 AM PST
well considering the iPhone 3GS's camera is 2 yr old technology it's not surprising !
if you compared it to Nokia nd SE phones the idfference would be even bigger !
but one thing going for the iphone camera are third party apps like pano ,picoli etc.
not to mention image editors like the photoshop.com app and others
Android has a few as well like Fx camera but nothing close to the iphone !
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by cloudmatt January 12, 2010 5:03 AM PST
android has the photoshop app as well and there are a lot of picture apps. Android just doesn't have the app library yet, though out of the huge pile of photo apps on the i-phone I can't help making the quantity vs quality statement. Does I-phone have google goggles with barcode scaning, logo recognition, landmark recognition etc.? or google sky map with constellation detection? apps will come with time as apps do, apple has a huge base of users to fuel app development. I think the more upsetting thing here is the lack of the meta-data, I'm a camera kinda guy and I want to know what my aperture and focal length are. a listing of top and bottom range of the iso ratings would be nice to.
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by gerrrg January 12, 2010 5:03 AM PST
How can that be? The iPhone 3GS was introduced 7 months ago.

The low light noise, aberrations and contrast make the iPhone 3GS camera's photos far more difficult to work with.
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by davidgood_dotmac January 12, 2010 7:05 AM PST
gerrrg is right -- the iPhone 3GS camera isn't that old. If you want to include the older iPhone camera (2G, 3G) you might be surprised to find that the older technology camera (2G/3G) actually out-performs the 3GS camera in low-light situations -- something I've been horribly disappointed with ever since upgrading.

We have a 3G/3GS mix in our house, and I've done many side-by-side tests between the two iPhone cameras... and most of the time I prefer the photos taken with the older 3G camera. I 'always' prefer the 3G over the 3GS in indoor/poorly lit situations.

So, this really isn't a matter of "older" technology. When they made the 3G and the 3GS they had the ability to put better cameras in the units, they just chose not to (for any number of reasons -- I'm sure to keep costs down, otherwise this blog post would be about the outrageous cost of the iPhone rather than the quality of the camera). :)
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by alan_06 January 12, 2010 4:48 AM PST
Obviously, 5MP with flash will make the difference.
You can expect next iPhone release with Flash (there will be lot of marketing to promote Flash feature i guess and ofcourse comes with additional price tag) and wait another year for iPhone 5MP (with additional price tag)
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by tmeesseman January 12, 2010 5:58 AM PST
iPhone prices have never gone up with new features... they've always stayed at $199 with contract.
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by solitare_pax January 12, 2010 6:40 AM PST
Agreed - Apple usually sets a pricing scale that remains constant, even with improvements and enhancements to its various products. When a flash (and other goodies) arrive with the refresh, it ought to stay at $199.

Now if they would only add a camera to the iPod Touch...
by ApplerPS3 January 12, 2010 6:55 AM PST
(1) Apple NEVER increases its prices on newer iterations of their product lines. They charge a bit more to start with, yes, but that's pretty much it.
(2) Seriously here, who here chooses a phone (a touch screen, smartphone, operating system) based on its camera capabilities?
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by madeinttown January 12, 2010 7:53 AM PST
@ApplerPS3

I do. I don't have a camera - and so I'm waiting to switch to the smart phone bandwagon when I can kill two birds with one stone. So when the cameras in smart phones are 'more developed', I will be buying one.
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by snigglepop January 12, 2010 8:33 AM PST
"(2) Seriously here, who here chooses a phone (a touch screen, smartphone, operating system) based on its camera capabilities?"

Presumably people choose the smartphone based on lots of features, camera being one of them. Given that smartphones are encompassing more and more functions that people used to rely in other gadgets for, comparing the cameras, in detail, is useful and meaningful to many people.
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by dstppy January 12, 2010 10:28 AM PST
madeinttown

No no no! Seriously, an $80 fuji on-sale tiny camera will *always* take pictures better than a fixed-lens multi-function device! Canon Elphs are ecellent and under $150 . . .

The only time a smell-phone camera should be used is after an accident to prevent the other driver's license from being lost . . .

You don't use a pocket knife to cut watermelon in your kitchen . . .

--- honestly, the day we got off of "phone/network reception, data speed and battery life" as purchase points was the day we lost our way . . .
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by ArtInvent January 12, 2010 11:22 AM PST
Photo quality is quite important to some people, like me. One of the principal great things about these smart phones is how many devices they can replace. The point is, the camera that's always in your pocket is the one that will get used. I have a bulky SLR, an HD video camcorder, and a Fuji 8mp pocket camera, but none of these are typically in my pocket at any given time. The cell phone is. The better it's camera is, the better my off the cuff photos will be.

Frankly I would like to wait until these 5MP camera phones take really excellent images, and until I they have pretty good 720p hd video. Which is pretty much inevitable, just a question of when. But only if we get real competition. iPhone vs Android vs other Androids is going to give us that. When iPhone is the only option, Apple can do lame things like upgrade from the 3G to the 3GS but leave the same lame camera with no flash. But if people continue to say, hey, it's okay if the photos kind of suck, it's only a cell phone, then regardless we aint' gonna get there.

That's like saying, hey, it's okay if call quality is substandard, it's only a portable phone, not a land line. It's okay if the nav and gps systems are kind of slow and inaccurate, it's not a dedicated GPS unit. It's okay if the sound quality is a bit muddy, it's not a dedicated media player. It's okay if the display is tiny and lo resolution, it's not like it's a laptop . . . etc etc. I think it's pretty clear that if a cell phone bothers to do something, it should do it well.
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by adrianj January 12, 2010 11:08 PM PST
@ alan_06

somewhat of an ignorant comment, my friend. the megapixels are not the reason why the Nexus One takes better pictures. it has a better sensor and lens, obviously. the extra MP are nice if you're going to try to print or something...but really...the MP are the least important factor in cameras today.
by smabres January 12, 2010 5:14 AM PST
So is or does the iPhone 3GS uses old technology?
Is the iPhone a press created hype?
Will the rest of the world get in the iPhone bandwagon?
I know i could not my fingers are do dirty all the time
cheers!
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by theveggiedude January 13, 2010 6:28 AM PST
@smabres "I know i could not my fingers are do dirty all the time
cheers!"


If about then I forget not.
bye!
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by tipoo_ January 13, 2010 10:47 AM PST
"I know i could not my fingers are do dirty all the time"


Thats fine, just be sure not to a coke bottle.
by aj37viggen January 12, 2010 5:30 AM PST
The conclusions surprised me. I don't expect much from camera-phone photos except legibility -- I just want to be able to see the subject fairly clearly, with some detail visible in light, medium, and dark tones. Looking at the examples:

-- Darkened room: the left photo is more legible; the midtones in the right photo are too dark.

-- Darker room (no flash): the left photo is at least barely legible; you can see something, whereas the right photo is all black. The far-right photo (with flash) had better tones, but a big chunk of the subject was wiped out by glare.

-- Low light noise: the left photo is more legible; its noise pattern is more visible, but it also has more visible midtone and shadow detail. You see less noise in the right photo, but you also see less of the subject.

Overall, it seemed pretty obvious to me that while both sets of photos were qualitatively lousy, the left-side set were at least usable as-is; all the right-side photos all would have needed post-shooting adjustment (making midtones lighter) just to see the subjects reasonably well.

So I was surprised to read that (1) the photos that were more legible and more useful had been made with the "old-technology" phone; and (2) that your conclusion was that the less-legible, less-useful photos were "better."
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by SiliconValleyJoe January 12, 2010 6:20 AM PST
You sound like a real photographer. I have similar reaction as well. I won't even use the built-in flash. For best result, I carry a small pocket LED with a home-made defuser that defuses white light onto the scene. Flash off an SLR is already a problem so flash off a tiny camera, as shown above, can wash out the subject.

The best SLR, be it digital or film, is the one that can efficiently handle low light. Shooting low light allows finer control of natural tone. Flash, when improperly applied, washes out natural tone. The comparison above clearly shows which camera has better low light capability and more details. Yet, the higher pixel count and brightness are what most people prefer.

Most people just want to shoot something and quality does not matter. This is why most camera manufacturers tout higher pixel count as the measuring stick. The more pixel, the better, right? For these wannabe camera cell phones, the focus is now about having a flash. Oh well....

I just hope that Apple does not foolishly follow the trend by ruining low light capability and then introduce a blinding flash.
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by SiliconValleyJoe January 12, 2010 6:30 AM PST
Forgot to add that I do like the Nexus' ability to save the photos to a card. I guess once a photographer, the habit dies hard. When shooting events, we use two cards in our cameras with one as a back up. The camera can die but the shots of an event have better be safe. This is actually more important than pixel count or flash for a cell phone camera.
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by adam2d January 12, 2010 7:10 AM PST
- Actually, you sound like an iPhone owner - never willing to give in on the fact there can be a better product out there -- even if its just the camera part - come on, give in - the rest of the phone ops can still be better...

Darkened room - I see a washed out photo on left, maybe a little more detail in some areas, but look at the clock, walls, desk - better photo on the right

Darker room - phot on left is unusable, can't barely see a thing, true the one with no flash is also no good - but why wouldn't you use a flash, the last one is a bit wash out with flash back - but change angle a little would solve that - its digital, not film - take another picture

Low light noise - come on, the one on the left is terrible - period.

- Overall, camera on phones stink - but you have to admit the Nexus One camera at 5mp and with flash is better that iphone 3.2 no flash.
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by gerrrg January 12, 2010 7:23 AM PST
Your conclusion is completely incorrect.

The iPhone photo may be brighter, but it also washes out information that cannot be retrieved. You cannot see the joint in the wood where the light is being reflected. Look at the clock; you can't even see that there are lines delineating the minutes. Look at the backside of the monitor; which one can you read the manufacturer's name?

In the Nexus One photo, the data is still there, even in the darkened areas, allowing one to selectively dodge and burn to bring out the details in the darker areas.

Anyone with Photoshop or similar processing software, could make the Nexus One photo usable, whereas nothing can be done to fix the iPhone photo to retrieve the lost data in washed out areas.

So you see, the Nexus One photo is far better.
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by notalilo January 12, 2010 8:23 AM PST
As others pointed out, on iPhone photo one can not say that the room was darkened. The picture is clearly overexposed. I guess Apple "shoots" to please an average consumer here whereas HTC goes for quality.
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by PiCASSiMO January 12, 2010 10:21 AM PST
I'm also going to disagree with aj37viggen's conclusions. If I had to work with either of these smartphones, I would take the GN1 over the 3Gs. Due to the lack of available flash, I'm sure that Apple software is bumping the ISO to 400 or even 800 range, making the picture appear overexposed and loose detail that is evident on the GN1. I also think that there is the availability of choosing your ISO level on the GN1 to at least be on par with the 3Gs before resorting to using the flash.

All in all, if you were to attempt to print these pictures, the 3Gs are not usable compared to the GN1.

Disclosure: I do not have a smartphone, yet, and I'm waiting until Apple releases the next generation iPhone for me to decide on my (first) purchase. But I do use regularly a Fuji F31fd and a Nikon D80, all old generation of cameras but still good enough for the pictures that I need.
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by ro8ski January 12, 2010 8:35 PM PST
I want what you're smokin. Taking a pic in a darkened room and you still get blown out highlights? Thats crap! The N1 provides a way cleaner exposure in this case. On top of that I would never want to wait 2.5 seconds for the camera to load up. That's close to forever according to some iPhone users when making other comparisons with the N1.

For the dark photo, I assume the iPhone bumps up the ISO because it knows this is all the available light its got. The N1 assumes you'll use the flash, so it doesn't make the adjustment. These are just my assumptions though. If the subject is moving in this light, then you'll never ever get anything usable from the iPhone.

Let's just put it this way, seriously speaking. If you ever get in a car accident, see a UFO, or Bigfoot, and you've got immediate access to both the iPhone and Nexus One, which one would you pick up? Exactly!

I hope the iPhone doesn't get a flash because that would be just a copy cat of all other phones out there. I've been told Apple is not in the copy cat business. It's the little things that make the iPhone so special, I guess they forgot this little thing.
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by mcgeeb March 4, 2010 5:10 AM PST
Trying reading the back of the monitor on the left photo compared to the right.
by markdoiron January 12, 2010 5:34 AM PST
"... it is great to see how big of a gap there is between the hardware packed into a device unveiled in June of last year and the hardware we're getting in January of this year."

Did smart phone technology advance so far in those seven months that the manufacturers can now include a flash, whereas before it was technologically impossible? No. It's just that the other manufacturers realized the importance of the flash to the camera function. Apple is late to the party because of a decision to not include a flash. Kudos to Apple, however, for letting the user chose the focal point--and shame on the other manufacturers for not following suit.

--mark d.
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by sapporobaby512 January 12, 2010 7:02 AM PST
One word: Nokia. Another word: SonyEricsson. These features have been around before the iPhone 1G was launched. Go look at the specs for the N95. The N86 has better specs than either phone.
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by Magicland January 12, 2010 7:45 AM PST
When you're 2.5 inches from the subject, what's the point of selecting a focal point? I can understand on a normal picture where many different things might be at different focal lengths, but in macro mode it's just useless.
by Ratnok January 14, 2010 8:23 AM PST
Nokia and SonyEricsson have better cameras in the phone, but the phone is much weaker than either the Nexus One or the iPhone. Well, at least until SonyEricsson's Android Experia X10 comes out. So I guess I agree.
by sapporobaby512 January 12, 2010 6:25 AM PST
This is by far the biggest non-article ever. Is anyone surprised by the results? This is just a filler article. No substance.
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by Infinite_loop January 12, 2010 7:19 AM PST
I never quite understand posts like this. I guess it's because I'm not 12 years old any longer.

The article opens a discussion regarding the quality of photography on todays cell phones. If that doesn't interest you then why read it?.......No one made you.
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by arvidbux January 12, 2010 8:15 AM PST
Great review. I did write a comparison between the G1 and Nexus One:
- http://www.oetzitterd.nl/2010/camera-review-nexus-one-vs-g1/
The review is in Dutch but the G1 is on the left and the Nexus on the right
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by Josh.Lowensohn January 12, 2010 9:10 AM PST
Nice link & shots--thanks for sharing!
by dstppy January 12, 2010 10:33 AM PST
arvidbux -

So, you're saying you did an apples-to-apples review, rather than a "what will get me the most hits" article? :)

Page is still loading :/
by The_happy_switcher January 12, 2010 8:32 AM PST
In other news today a comparison of gold vs. lead shows that gold is worth more.
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by Button Boy January 12, 2010 8:50 AM PST
So what? If I am really in need of a camera, I bring my EOS along for the ride. These phone cameras are only meant for *very* *casual* usage.
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by pjs79 January 12, 2010 8:55 AM PST
This review is absolutely ridiculous! Obviously the Nexus should have better features it's brand new!

HTC has released how many smart phones since the 3GS came out? I lost count, but I know there's **** loads, and yet Apple only needs 1 model (with various memory sizes) to compete against all these other brands.
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by Josh.Lowensohn January 12, 2010 9:11 AM PST
Ridiculous!
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by notalilo January 12, 2010 10:11 AM PST
I do not understand your complaint. iPhone buyers should be aware that Apple has only one phone model and it updates it only once a year. So if you have to buy a new phone when you contract has expired, you have a much better chance of getting the latest tech from HTC (or any other cell manufacturer to that matter) than from Apple.
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by fokkwp January 12, 2010 9:16 AM PST
"Rumors cropped up last week that Apple had put down a big order for LED flashes,"

Ah, yet another innovation coming from Apple! Imagine an LED flash on a smartphone camera! already the rest of the industry is preparing to imitate Apple by already having built these devices into their production phones. Follow that leader!
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by rodj4u January 17, 2010 11:47 PM PST
Classic, I can't stop laughing.....
by drara07 February 5, 2010 5:40 AM PST
Who's following who???...At least read what the article say...Apple just put down an order for LED flashes, N1 is already out there selling with LED flashes....and for your kind info.....nokia / SE smartphones have had cameras with flash much before the i-phone gen1 came out. Look up ur facts.
by Seaspray0 January 12, 2010 10:20 AM PST
Since camera's are now pretty much standard feature on phones, how many people actually rely on them when it comes to taking pictures? If I want good pictures, I want my digital camera. Where I find the one on the phone useful is when I come accross something unique and it's the only way to get a shot of it (i.e. a flooded street, or damage from an auto accident). Out of the 1000's of shots taken on the digital camera, I've taken maybe 10 photo's on the phone, and I haven't kept any of them in the long run.
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by loose_screw January 12, 2010 9:10 PM PST
Check flickr. The iPhone is the most popular camera by far on that site.
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by Brent212 January 13, 2010 1:28 PM PST
Some people carry cameras around with them, some don't. If something doesn't fit comfortably in my pocket, chances are at any given moment, I don't have it. I've got a pretty nice Canon (er... it was nice when I got it), but I think it's been over 2 years since I've touched it. I think I might have brought it on one vacation once, but definitely have never actually used it outside my house.

I guess if I were a girl with a purse, I'd always have my camera on me and use it.
by mcgeeb March 4, 2010 5:16 AM PST
It's the convenience that matters. My phone is always on me. I don't want to miss the perfect shot of my kids because I don't have my other camera on me.
by thatchman1 January 12, 2010 10:45 AM PST
The photo of the N1 camera looks normal... however, the photo of the 3GS is clearly not a 3GS. The 3GS camera isn't in the center.... what is that thing pictured???
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by redgeminipa January 13, 2010 5:51 AM PST
I was thinking the same thing. I can't think of any possible angle to take a pic of the iPhone camera and have it turn out like that.
by PDB64 January 12, 2010 11:04 AM PST
I know lots of people that rely on their phones to take pictures. Not necessarily as the primary camera but when ever they didn't bring it. My camera is a bit on the bulky side so I tend to leave it at home. Yes I could of bought a smaller camera but I wanted quality when I went looking for one. So a decent camera with my phone would be a great backup. I'm looking forward to the Sony Ericsson X10 to get reviewed.
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by AndroidFTW January 12, 2010 11:12 AM PST
Like one poster said...The parts to provide a better photographic experience have been around for years.
Nokia devices in particular take very good pictures. Apple was just trying to squeeze a few more dollars profit out of each phone. Now THEY are playing catch up. Apple has egg on it`s face with a device that fails as a phone (combination of Infineon chip/ATT) , and has a mediocre camera. No wonder most of the apps sold are games.
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by AndroidFTW January 12, 2010 11:25 AM PST
Wow...the N1 pics are stunning. Cnet must have grown a pair to expose Apple like that (no pun intended).
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by bemenaker January 12, 2010 12:11 PM PST
Didn't we already know this, since this is basically the same camera in the Droid?
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by Galen20K January 13, 2010 4:48 PM PST
no its not the same camera as in the DROID, they are made by two different companies.
by Chameleon81 January 12, 2010 12:16 PM PST
iPhone's camera is not old technology . When iPhone 3Gs was launched other brands had phones with 8 megapixel camera with led flashes. My 3 years old Sony Ericson K800i has 3.2 camera which cost me 45 pounds as top-up phone. It is Apple's choice not to put a better camera.

I remember when first iPhone was launched Nokia had N95 with 5 megapixel camera and I was thinking myself who in the earth would buy iPhone :). Then I realized it wasn't just about the camera and pixels. It is all about usability plus INTERNET!
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by January 12, 2010 4:46 PM PST
... and that obscure little app called "iPod"...
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