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September 22, 2009 1:00 PM PDT

Picasa 3.5 brings facial recognition to the desktop

by Josh Lowensohn
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Roughly a year after rolling out facial recognition on its Picasa Web Albums site, Google on Tuesday is introducing an updated version of its Picasa software (for Windows | Mac) that can recognize faces in photos stored on users' computers.

Just as it does on the Web, Picasa scans your photos for faces, then groups together photos of specific people. It's then your job to tell it who they are as well as confirm its guesses. If someone you're tagging is in your Google address book, you can also look them up very quickly with auto-complete. Otherwise, Google gives you the option to add them as someone new; this information then gets synced back up your Google address book.

Picasa's software can now scan for faces, and offer up recommendations of people it thinks are your contacts.

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The system worked very well for me, but it was slow going. I had to leave the program running overnight for it to finish processing my 3,700 or so photos for faces. It also had my processor humming, since it was doing all the work on my machine instead of Google's giant server farm.

That's not to say Google hasn't included a few things to help speed up the process. For one, if you've got photos that are both hosted online and on your hard drive--and that have already been scanned for faces, the Picasa software can grab that information and add it to your local library. This saves it from having to scan the same photos twice.

And for photos it thinks contain people you've verified as contacts, it gives you quick "yes" and "no" buttons that can add or reject name tags. Oftentimes, clicking "yes" adds a few more suggestions for photos of that person that the program feels is safe enough to recommend. There's also a way to group accept or group decline its suggestions, which saves time you would have otherwise spent clicking the buttons one at a time.

Users can now geotag their photos right in the Picasa, just like they can in Picasa Web Albums.

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As with Picasa Web Albums, your reward for trudging through your photos to add tags is better organization, which for a massive library of old, archived shots can be hugely helpful. And unlike Picasa's albums feature, name tags let you quickly sort all of your photos by who's in them--not when they were taken or how you've personally organized them. It also continues to do this with any photos you add to your library in the future.

Along with facial recognition, the new version of the software integrates Google Maps--a much-wanted feature among geotagging fans. Just as you're able to do in Picasa Web Albums, you can search for a location in Google Maps, then amend that geographic data to your photo. You can also view groups of photos by place by clicking on little red map markers that show where individual photos have been placed. Unlike the facial recognition feature though, this is still largely a manual process of doing a search for each location then adding it to a photo, or group of photos, at once. That is, unless you have a camera with GPS (which most people don't).

One big thing Google is bringing to the table with this release over something like Apple's iPhoto (at least for Mac users) is the capability to tag items that are spread out across your entire computer, as well as external drives. In that regard, it does a much better job than iPhoto when it comes to automatically importing and organizing photos--all without disturbing where they're stored. Considering it now does much of what iPhoto is able to do with faces, with the added bonus of grabbing that contact information from your Google address book, it makes for a very seamless experience.

The new version of the software should appear as an update for users of Picasa v3.1 the next time they start the program. It can also be forced to update by clicking the "check for updates online" option in the help menu.

Previously: Revamped Google Picasa site identifies photo faces

Josh Lowensohn writes for Webware.com, CNET's blog about Web applications and services. E-mail Josh, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/Josh.
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by getwired September 22, 2009 1:14 PM PDT
Unsurprisingly, it looks remarkably like Apple's Faces implementation.
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by tappy727 September 22, 2009 9:08 PM PDT
And unsurprisingly, Apple's faces implementation looks remarkably like Picasa Web Albums.
by Rod Roddy September 23, 2009 3:53 PM PDT
yeaaah!!!!! No one cares!!!!!
by jlopezcnet September 22, 2009 1:30 PM PDT
I thought Apple iPhoto did this like 2 years ago....
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by myles taylor September 22, 2009 3:08 PM PDT
It was actually around 9 months ago that Apple released this feature.
by Josh.Lowensohn September 22, 2009 3:44 PM PDT
& Picasa is cross-platform and has a free (albeit limited Web component). Only way you get photo hosting for iPhoto is with MobileMe subscriptions.
by Khurt September 22, 2009 7:12 PM PDT
Josh.Lowensohn, your statement about " way you get photo hosting for iPhoto is with MobileMe subscriptions" is incorrect. iPhoto support uploading to flickr and facebook. I love Picassa but it uploads to PicassaWeb only.
by kelmon September 23, 2009 5:10 AM PDT
Yes, I used iPhoto with Flickr for years with Frazier Spear's excellent FlickrExport plug-in for iPhoto. These days I use Aperture instead of iPhoto but I still rely on FlickrExport.

http://connectedflow.com/flickrexport/iphoto/index.php
by scaught78 September 24, 2009 5:16 AM PDT
You can upload from PIcassa into Facebook. Just download the Picassa / Facebook app. It will insert the Facebook button on the bottome of your screen. I use it and it is crazy simple.

http://apps.facebook.com/picasauploader/
by MJSlider8 September 22, 2009 1:30 PM PDT
Thankfully though, Picasa is free. Unlike Apples...well, anything.
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by OldShoeLover September 22, 2009 1:53 PM PDT
Nice. I mean I love Apple, love my Powerbook. But free is ALWAYS better. I will sacrifice a little user friendliness (if any) for freebie.
by myles taylor September 22, 2009 3:14 PM PDT
Oh great...someone with a cynical, one-sided and closeminded view of Apple. Just what we needed on CNet.

iPhoto is free to anyone with a Mac, which you need to run it. Yes, you have to pay for upgrades but given the life of a computer, you shouldn't have to buy one very often. Also, Apple has zero anti-piracy on it so people can pretty much just take if they have low morals.

Do you want me to list the things that Apple has that are free? First if you buy a Mac there is a lot of free stuff that you get. Things are now free that didn't used to be because Apple starting giving them away for free and the industry followed. Like webcams and microphones. What about Safari? Free as a bird to use. It's whether or not you like it or think anything else is better is irrelevant because it is free.

You might argue that the "free" things are only free if you buy something else or as a tool to get you to buy something else. That may be true. However, how is Picasa paid for? Google makes money off ads and makes a lot of money. Nothing is "free". It's free to you but you are paying for it in another way.
by gggg sssss September 22, 2009 4:37 PM PDT
@myles taylor "one-sided and closeminded " from an apple fan boy? who woudl have thought
by Khurt September 22, 2009 7:16 PM PDT
@MJSlider, iPhoto is free. It comes with the OS. Did you pay for the icons that came with your OS?
by EzBulka September 22, 2009 1:34 PM PDT
One word.... FINALLY. I've been waiting for this for a long time. I don't upload ALL my pictures to PicasaWeb but I would love to have my pictures identified by face. Now I can do it. (And good dig on Apple, MJSlider8)
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by nttwrs September 22, 2009 1:44 PM PDT
first, i wouldn't exactly say this is "hot on the heels" of the web albums, given that that was just over a year ago :)

secondly, along the lines of the other comments, windows live photo gallery also has been doing this for a long time, and maintains the info and tags when you upload to places like facebook
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by Josh.Lowensohn September 22, 2009 3:46 PM PDT
Yeah just changed that.
by LifeOfBryanIII September 22, 2009 1:59 PM PDT
Thanks for writing this article, I was actually just wondering about when this feature would arrive. I find that amusing ;-)

I'm installing this as we speak and looking forward to see if it does the trick for me since I change my facial hair style on a regular basis. hehe, I'll keep you posted
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by shusseina2 September 22, 2009 2:34 PM PDT
I have changed from using MobileMe and iPhoto to using Picasa Web Albums and its matching client software. I still import my photos into iPhoto, but otherwise use the Picasa client software which seems very nimble compared to iPhoto. Great to see face recognition come to Picasa - well done Google!
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by scaught78 September 24, 2009 5:19 AM PDT
Ha ha. I do the same thing. I for some reason find it easier to import in iPhoto. I don't know what that is. I do everything else in Picasa.
by myles taylor September 22, 2009 3:08 PM PDT
Nice to see this feature spreading around since the technology is getting out there more.
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by poster48150 September 22, 2009 4:54 PM PDT
"It can also be forced to update by clicking the 'check for updates online' option in the help menu" didn't work in my case. I have Version 3.1, Build 71.43. When I select the "check for updates" option it displays "This application is up-to-date".
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by JohnFredC September 23, 2009 6:04 AM PDT
Too bad they focused on the facial recognition feature, something I'll never use. Prefer some support for vignette, perspective, and lens distortion corrections. There is plenty of room on the tool sidebar to add those features into the GUI...
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by G-Skaf September 23, 2009 10:15 AM PDT
Why would I want to allow a non-open-source application to index every bit of information in my pictures? Am I paranoid to believe that this information may end up pretty much everywhere (including the NSA)?
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by pdskep September 23, 2009 11:42 AM PDT
Yes. Yes you are.
by 01Phyxius September 23, 2009 3:07 PM PDT
If they really wanted to see that kind of thing, they would a) confiscate the computer, or b) hack said computer, so you really have nothing to worry about.


Kudos, Google. I've been waiting for this feature.
by rossy martin September 23, 2009 8:31 PM PDT
I need the Picasio. but I need a startup cop utility too
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by justsaif1 September 23, 2009 9:10 PM PDT
i like apple
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by oofern September 24, 2009 12:45 AM PDT
Khurt, you said that Picasa only uploads to Picasaweb but that is not true. Picasa has an open buttons api, so there are buttons that exists to upload to facebook, flickr, wordpress, send to aperture, photoshop, lightroom. Just google for these.
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by anyhow2004bc September 24, 2009 3:55 AM PDT
Please provide us with the ability of selecting multiple folders at once. I've been waiting for this basic function since forever.
Brings pain to sort 400 albums in the folders I choose.
I mean, c'mon. It did start out as a photo organizing tool now, isn't it??
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by a_comment September 24, 2009 10:02 AM PDT
I downloaded and installed the Picasa upgrade over 48 hours ago. I saw the facial recognition feature and though it would be a neat feature and didn't give it much thought when I started it.

Well, over 48 hours later (of running constantly), it is only 45% through my folders. I have well over 20,000 photos.

I have two kids that kind of look a like, so I'm finding that it is getting them mixed up quite a bit and I have to assign them to the correct name.

Know going into this that if you have a lot of photos, it is going to take a long time and lots of effort to get everything sorted out correctly.

I'm not exactly confident I'll find it that useful.

Also, there isn't a clear to turn the feature off--at least I haven't found it. Once it was installed it just started scanning for faces immediately.
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by zhanate September 24, 2009 11:39 AM PDT
I had to tell it to start scanning for faces -- it didn't do it automatically. I have no idea why that would be.

It did take awhile to scan all the photos, but it was pretty efficient in locating faces. There were plenty of people I couldn't ID because they were just other people in a crowd or in the background of the person I was taking a picture of. It also spotted faces in photos sitting in a room and faces in screenshots from games, which was amusing.

The facial recognition is far from perfect, but it does group pictures of the same people, so for me it was a lot easier and faster than having to ID each person in each photo, which I've never done.

So it's a kind of useful tool, but there's plenty of room for improvement.
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by dj_atomic2010 September 25, 2009 12:33 PM PDT
I have well over 500,000 photos over 1000 people for my line of work Picasa has been my pick in photo viewer for well over a year. Fast to scan photos unlike most photo viewers witch some have taken well over days! The facial recognition is simplistic but for free what do you want, if you want better pay for it!! and since this is a Windows 7 PC I don't mix Mac programs with Microsoft i don't have one Mac programs on any of my windows PC's and from what I have seen of Mac programs like iTunes and iPhoto No thank you Mac is limited and always will be! yes I have a mac but only use Once in a while! Google Picasa get a big 10 from me!
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by moviegeek65 September 26, 2009 2:50 PM PDT
I wish Picasa 3.5 had real improvements such as better editing and resizing controls.
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by Franz Gruber September 29, 2009 3:40 PM PDT
People need to be aware of Google's Terms of Service, because by using Picasa you are agreeing that Google may do whatever it likes with your pictures. Note the following:

11. Content licence from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this licence includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this licence shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above licence.

This is why I stay clear of Picasa and several other Google services.
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