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February 5, 2008 10:19 AM PST

Five reasons you shouldn't buy a Blu-ray player yet

Pioneer BDP-95FD

Don't overpay for an obsolete Blu-ray player like this $,1000 Pioneer Elite BDP-95FD

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With HD DVD looking more and more like it's on the ropes, it would seem like the ideal time to commit to Blu-ray--right? Not so fast. There are at least five reasons to stick with your good old-fashioned DVD player--at least for the next few months. (And, as always, there are some key caveats and insider secrets for those who can't resist pullling the trigger as soon as possible.)

1. Nearly all current Blu-ray players are obsolete: The Blu-ray standard is still evolving. Most models currently available use the original Profile 1.0 standard, while some newer models use Profile 1.1 (which adds the ability to show picture-in-picture commentaries). Later this year, the first Profile 2.0 players--which add the ability to deliver online special features (BD Live)--will become available. Ironically, both of these are designed to bring the Blu-ray standard in line with HD DVD players, which have long been able to deliver these features.

A couple of the most recent Blu-ray players (the combo players from Samsung and LG) can be updated from Profile 1.0 to 1.1 with a downloadable firmware update. But the PlayStation 3 is, supposedly, the only existing Blu-ray player that will be fully upgradeable to Profile 2.0. So if you don't want your Blu-ray player to be obsolete, the PS3 is your only choice until 2.0 models--such as the Panasonic DMP-BD50--hit later this year.

Caveat: Does anybody really watch those PiP-enabled commentaries? Or want updated trailers downloaded from the Web? Beyond the hardcore cinephiles, I think the answer is a big "no." In other words, if you're among the vast majority who only wants to watch the movie, you're not really gaining anything with a 1.1. or 2.0 player. Those older Blu-ray players should play everything else on the disc (the non-playable features are just grayed out on the menu). With the older players hitting the discount racks to make way for newer models, getting a Profile 1.0 player is a nice way to score a Blu-ray player on the cheap ($300 or less).

2. Blu-ray is best on a big-screen TV: Can you see the difference between standard DVD and Blu-ray? Yes--but it may not be as noticeable as you would think. Like all high-definition material, Blu-ray discs look their most-impressive at bigger screen sizes, where DVD can sometimes start to look a bit soft. Put another way: if your TV is 37 inches or smaller, you probably won't be getting a huge advantage from Blu-ray.

Caveat: Eagle-eyed videophiles--or those who sit especially close to their 1080p TVs--may well see a difference. Rule of thumb: if HDTV programming looks noticeably better than DVD playback on your TV, then Blu-ray will be a worthwhile investment.

3. There are still very few movies available on Blu-ray: As of February 5, 2008, there are less than 450 current Blu-ray titles available in North America (not counting discontinued and adult titles). That stacks up well to HD DVD (around 400). But it's a drop in the bucket compared to standard DVD, which has at least 90,000 titles available (including TV shows).

Caveat: Sure, it's small now, but the number of Blu-ray titles is growing slowly but surely. In fact, Blu-ray and HD DVD adoption (combined) has actually outpaced that of the original DVD format, which took three or four years before it really went mainstream.

4. Blu-ray still has growing pains: How many times have you popped a brand new DVD into your player, only to be greeted with a message that you need to update the firmware to view the movie? Probably never, but Blu-ray early adopters have faced this message more than they would like to admit. (To be fair, HD DVD has had its share of disc compatibility issues as well.) To make matters worse, many early Blu-ray players can't update via Ethernet, so you'll need to burn a CD to update the player. If you're reading Crave, burning a disc probably isn't a problem--but there are many less-tech-savvy people that love DVDs, but have no idea what an ISO file is.

5. Prices have nowhere to go but down: Even without competition from HD DVD, Blu-ray prices seem to be on a one-way ticket downward. Older players can be purchases for about $300, so don't be surprised to see Black Friday 2008 specials at $249 or $199. Caveat: See item number 1: the cheaper players are likely to be older models that are effectively "obsolete."

So there you have it: there's absolutely no compelling reason to dive into Blu-ray, at least for the next few months. But as with all of the items above, the conclusion comes with a big caveat of its own: the Sony PlayStation 3. It's the only player that's futureproof, it doubles as a top-notch game machine and network digital media streamer, and it's readily available for $400. Oh--it also happens to be a great Blu-ray player, and it does a fine job of upconverting your standard DVDs to high-definition resolutions. As such, it remains the exception to the rule, and the only Blu-ray player that we can enthusiastically recommend for the time being.

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If only the PS3 had IR...
by grovberg February 5, 2008 10:44 AM PST
If the PS3 could be integrated into the rest of my control system, I'd have one in
my shelf before the end of the day. Having to use a dedicated remote just for
that purpose may not seem like much, but once you experience the joy of a
single remote controlling everything, that becomes a deal breaker for just about
any potential addition to the system.
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If only the PS3 had IR...
by grovberg February 5, 2008 10:44 AM PST
If the PS3 could be integrated into the rest of my control system, I'd have one in
my shelf before the end of the day. Having to use a dedicated remote just for
that purpose may not seem like much, but once you experience the joy of a
single remote controlling everything, that becomes a deal breaker for just about
any potential addition to the system.
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Yep, the PS3 is the way to go.
by epitone February 5, 2008 11:06 AM PST
It's cheaper than most other Blu-Ray players, is fully upgradeable, has built-in WiFi and a hard drive, and streams music/video/photos from your computer.

Oh, and it plays games if you're into that.
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Yep, the PS3 is the way to go.
by epitone February 5, 2008 11:06 AM PST
It's cheaper than most other Blu-Ray players, is fully upgradeable, has built-in WiFi and a hard drive, and streams music/video/photos from your computer.

Oh, and it plays games if you're into that.
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The only problem with the PS3 is..
by iwarrior-poet February 5, 2008 11:16 AM PST
That it isn't able to handle the newer hi-def audio codecs (Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD). This may not be a huge deal right now---but when more movies come out with these audio formats...
I am hoping one of the newer PS3s will have this ability.
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The only problem with the PS3 is..
by iwarrior-poet February 5, 2008 11:16 AM PST
That it isn't able to handle the newer hi-def audio codecs (Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD). This may not be a huge deal right now---but when more movies come out with these audio formats...
I am hoping one of the newer PS3s will have this ability.
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PS3 Does upport HD Audio
by Shang_Chi February 5, 2008 11:23 AM PST
The PS3 actually does support DD+ and Doblby TrueHD. It decodes them internally and outputs them as uncompressed LPCM if you have a receiver that can handle the signal. Any receiver that also decodes TrueHD and MA should be able to handle this.

What the PS3 cannod do is provide bitstream output to a decoding receiver for TrueHD and it does not decode the newest HD Audio format Dolby-MA. Hopefully Dolby-MA will come with the next firmware release.
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PS3 Does upport HD Audio
by Shang_Chi February 5, 2008 11:23 AM PST
The PS3 actually does support DD+ and Doblby TrueHD. It decodes them internally and outputs them as uncompressed LPCM if you have a receiver that can handle the signal. Any receiver that also decodes TrueHD and MA should be able to handle this.

What the PS3 cannod do is provide bitstream output to a decoding receiver for TrueHD and it does not decode the newest HD Audio format Dolby-MA. Hopefully Dolby-MA will come with the next firmware release.
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I don't see any reason.
by MickBurke February 5, 2008 11:26 AM PST
Obsolete and 'not state of the art' are two very different things. My BD 1.0 player (which I've been enjoying for seven months) will continue working just fine when 2.0 players are released. When I pick up a 2.0 player, I'll move this one to the bedroom.

Just because there are only a few hundred movies on BD at the moment is no reason to buy those movies on DVD.

I don;t see any reason not to buy a BD player. Wait till spring if oyu want 2.0 features (an internet connection?!?!) but other than that, the waters great. Jump on in.
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I don't see any reason.
by MickBurke February 5, 2008 11:26 AM PST
Obsolete and 'not state of the art' are two very different things. My BD 1.0 player (which I've been enjoying for seven months) will continue working just fine when 2.0 players are released. When I pick up a 2.0 player, I'll move this one to the bedroom.

Just because there are only a few hundred movies on BD at the moment is no reason to buy those movies on DVD.

I don;t see any reason not to buy a BD player. Wait till spring if oyu want 2.0 features (an internet connection?!?!) but other than that, the waters great. Jump on in.
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Bad Usage of Word "Obsolete"
by harvey108 February 5, 2008 11:36 AM PST
www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/33/ explains that the word "obsolete" is the "most misused word in the history of computing" and that problem exists in this article as most Blu-Ray players are going to be supported for firmware upgrades for a long time and I suggest the many of us do not care for the extra benefits of "BD Live".
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Bad Usage of Word "Obsolete"
by harvey108 February 5, 2008 11:36 AM PST
www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/33/ explains that the word "obsolete" is the "most misused word in the history of computing" and that problem exists in this article as most Blu-Ray players are going to be supported for firmware upgrades for a long time and I suggest the many of us do not care for the extra benefits of "BD Live".
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Re 5 Reasons you shouldnt buy a blue eay yet
by Jimmybox February 5, 2008 11:39 AM PST
while i think this article has some points i hate the bedrudging PS3 suppose comments, it doesn't suppose it actually does, the PS3 is the only Blu-Ray player worth getting and it seems as though the author of this piece seems to says this behind gritted teeth, when all the PS3 bashing started we all knew long term the AV facilities of this machine would win in the end and INHO Microsoft killed HD DVD by not expanding on the Xbox 360 Elite, fab games machine as it is, do we really want to buy a WI-Fi add on an ugly HDDVD drive add on and a power supply the size of Africa, Microsoft could of taken advantage of HD DVD but mucked it all up
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Re 5 Reasons you shouldnt buy a blue eay yet
by Jimmybox February 5, 2008 11:39 AM PST
while i think this article has some points i hate the bedrudging PS3 suppose comments, it doesn't suppose it actually does, the PS3 is the only Blu-Ray player worth getting and it seems as though the author of this piece seems to says this behind gritted teeth, when all the PS3 bashing started we all knew long term the AV facilities of this machine would win in the end and INHO Microsoft killed HD DVD by not expanding on the Xbox 360 Elite, fab games machine as it is, do we really want to buy a WI-Fi add on an ugly HDDVD drive add on and a power supply the size of Africa, Microsoft could of taken advantage of HD DVD but mucked it all up
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PS3?? nah...
by skyline6 February 5, 2008 12:19 PM PST
Power supply the size of africa? Ugly hddvd?? dude whatever!

its been a year and sony finally broke even on PS3 sales a couple weeks back!!!
And microsoft chose HDDVD because Blu-Ray is sony's thing and there would have been a bunch of crap shoved in their face, and people would say they coppied PS3...

360 is soooo much better than PS3 in hundreds of ways.
I bet you 3/4 of the people that have PS3's dont even own a single Blu-Ray Disk! Games on 360 are much better, their are many titles that are only on 360 and all the cool games on PS3 are also on 360.

Who gives a DAMN about the power supple??!! All the people who talk crap point out things that dont matter at all!
its not like the 360 is a laptop, or the slim PS2 made for portability!, the thing is gonna Stand their by your TV, and it wownt matter how big the power supply is!
Xbox live is better than whatever the PS3 has. And the new R2 and L2 buttons they added to the PS3 that werent on PS2 controllers (the buttons you use for gas and brake)(that were on the xbox and 360 before) well they suck ass!, it really hard to play because lot of times if your hands are a little sweaty your finger slides of!,

I was REALLY disapointed at the PS3, i was hoping for something big..., after more that half a year the only big thing were the price drops!
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PS3?? nah...
by skyline6 February 5, 2008 12:19 PM PST
Power supply the size of africa? Ugly hddvd?? dude whatever!

its been a year and sony finally broke even on PS3 sales a couple weeks back!!!
And microsoft chose HDDVD because Blu-Ray is sony's thing and there would have been a bunch of crap shoved in their face, and people would say they coppied PS3...

360 is soooo much better than PS3 in hundreds of ways.
I bet you 3/4 of the people that have PS3's dont even own a single Blu-Ray Disk! Games on 360 are much better, their are many titles that are only on 360 and all the cool games on PS3 are also on 360.

Who gives a DAMN about the power supple??!! All the people who talk crap point out things that dont matter at all!
its not like the 360 is a laptop, or the slim PS2 made for portability!, the thing is gonna Stand their by your TV, and it wownt matter how big the power supply is!
Xbox live is better than whatever the PS3 has. And the new R2 and L2 buttons they added to the PS3 that werent on PS2 controllers (the buttons you use for gas and brake)(that were on the xbox and 360 before) well they suck ass!, it really hard to play because lot of times if your hands are a little sweaty your finger slides of!,

I was REALLY disapointed at the PS3, i was hoping for something big..., after more that half a year the only big thing were the price drops!
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oh really....
by ianim8 February 5, 2008 12:50 PM PST
hmm I guess Im making a big mistake by selling my Xbox360 Elite (no more Halo...) then :P
Im happy with my PS3...oh yeah, plus the BD option too :)
I wonder if my Elite was able to play HD-DUDs? LOL
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oh really....
by ianim8 February 5, 2008 12:50 PM PST
hmm I guess Im making a big mistake by selling my Xbox360 Elite (no more Halo...) then :P
Im happy with my PS3...oh yeah, plus the BD option too :)
I wonder if my Elite was able to play HD-DUDs? LOL
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My Response Posted
by kamiller42 February 5, 2008 1:15 PM PST
My response is available at the following link.

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showpost.php?p=721465&postcount=151
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My Response Posted
by kamiller42 February 5, 2008 1:15 PM PST
My response is available at the following link.

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showpost.php?p=721465&postcount=151
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