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March 24, 2009 9:54 PM PDT

Will cloud computing kill enterprise sales?

by James Urquhart
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My co-host on the Overcast podcast, Geva Perry, has published a very compelling post arguing for the demise of the traditional enterprise sale--the deal brokered by the highly extroverted, commissioned sales rep with the help of a team of sales engineers, marketers, consultants, and so on over the course of 6 to 18 months.

Geva established his case by relating the observations of venture capitalist Charlie Federman:

I met today separately with two successful CEOs who, unprompted, told me they were de-emphasizing their marketing/sales efforts to enterprise accounts; one company is in the application arena, and the other is in the infrastructure space.

Each told a similar story:

They don't have the "patience or resources to go through the hoops" required in committee sales. Translation: they don't want to fund the direct sales force/field engineers for the traditional six-month sales cycle, where they have to commit the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of dollars upfront before a decision is made. Moreover, if the decision is positive, it's normal to wait a few more quarters for implementation to move forward.

Each stressed that the opportunity cost is simply too high when many alternative channels are present that are open to a "fast test/fast purchase" decision cycle. Today, their biggest issue is prioritizing their time/resources in an environment where they receive near-instant market feedback from traffic, trial, and conversion statistics. Direct enterprise sales (as opposed to business development) is being extracted from their company DNA.

Geva then goes on to break down the decline of the enterprise sales empire:

The history of the trend away from the enterprise sale is easily traceable. It starts with free-trial CDs; it really picks up steam with downloadable enterprise software (salute to the WebLogic folks). It becomes downright mainstream with open source: Linux/RedHat, Jboss, MySQL, and the rest. And now, we come to cloud computing: the final nail in the enterprise sale coffin.

There is some truth to this. I worked for six months at open-source enterprise content management vendor Alfresco, and their model was fascinating: with the exception of a single direct sales representative, the entire business was run over the phone, Adobe Connect, and Skype. Deals were small, but numerous. "Try then buy" was the norm, and it worked--at least at that scale.

Could an indirect-only model work at a much larger scale, though?

Jim Liddle doesn't seem to think so. The architect-turned-sales-representative made his rebuttal on his wonderfully titled "Liddle Thoughts" blog:

Most of the enterprises I am dealing with are looking at public cloud infrastructures as being an enabler for outsourcing suitable applications or services. What is key for them in doing this is using software that they can use in-house as well as being able to be used on the cloud. Same skill sets, in some cases the same code, so that the transition to the public cloud is seamless. To get companies to engage on public cloud infrastructures right now requires a direct sales model, certainly until some form of tipping point is reached, and even then I believe that for certain classes of public cloud software, direct sales will always be needed.

In many ways, cloud licensing is an evolution of licensing models that include single user/single license, multiple users/shared license, temporary or fixed period licenses, pay-per-use licensing, subscription licensing, perpetual licensing, etc.

On top of this we have the private cloud in which companies use software and infrastructures to provide public cloud-type features available in-house. Make no mistake that the majority of this will be enterprise software with some major enterprise players in this space such as VMWare with VCloud and Citrix with C3, as well as companies such as GigaSpaces, who in many cases will partner with such companies and provide additional innovation. There will of course be room for innovative open-source software, such as Eucalyptus.

Liddle concludes with his belief that "enterprise license models, for certain vendors, are changing; for others, existing models have a new buddy, but I see this as evolution rather than revolution."

I'm not sure where I stand in this debate, but I have to agree that enterprise sales is a huge, difficult, expensive pain right now, and that cloud computing has the potential to bypass much of this pain. Then again, I know most enterprise IT organizations want accountability and responsiveness from the vendors on which they build their business. Direct sales puts a name and a face to that in a way that indirect sales or "do-it-yourself" never will.

Another possibility, I suppose, is that enterprise sales shifts from software to services, just like everything else.

I put the question to you: Is enterprise sales dead? Has your organization stopped looking at the multimillion-dollar licensing or hardware deal? If you are a commissioned sales representative, are you nervous about your profession's future?

James Urquhart is a seasoned field technologist with almost 20 years of experience in distributed systems development and deployment, focusing on service-oriented architectures, cloud computing, and virtualization. James is currently market manager for the Data Center 3.0 strategy at Cisco Systems, though the opinions expressed here are strictly his own. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by osultan March 24, 2009 11:09 PM PDT
James:

Great post. I think that cloud computing will certainly change the nature of sales engagement with customers--for example, I would see a stronger social media component and I think it should shorten the sales cycle by simplifying the process of completing a proof of concept.

However, I think it is overly optimistic to believe it is possible to completely do away with an enterprise sales organization. This may work in the mid-market, but for it to gain traction in the enterprise, customers need something of value to replace the customer intimacy they get from a good enterprise sales team.

From a company perspective, I would also have concerns about this approach. Today, where cloud infrastructure is new and different and cloud apps pickings are slim, it is easy to differentiate yourself. Fast forward a couple of years when you have multiple players in a given category, each with equally compelling websites--what is going to nudge the buyer in a given direction?

Omar Sultan
Cisco
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by nigelwalsh March 25, 2009 12:21 AM PDT
James, an interesting post indeed.

I don?t believe Enterprise Sales its dead at all - far from it. The move to cloud and Enterprise Sales are related but are very different arguments in my personal opinion. The Cloud argument is more along the lines of do I want to own the data centre or not or is this specific application/solution business critical or not. If you don?t want to own the data centre or the application is not core to your business, then cloud is brilliant.

However for some mission critical applications or some environments, e.g. finance and the government sector cloud may not doesn?t work. What I have found is customers usually want the best of both that closest suits their specific requirements ? which ultimately comes down to a commercial discussion. I?d like solution X in my data centre but on the same flexible terms and accountability that a cloud based solution gives me.

As an enterprise vendor, having the flexibility to mashup and provide both, meeting these requirements, specifically in this climate gives you one less challenge. I don't think one size will ever fit all.

Nigel Walsh
Corizon
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by Aysynonym March 25, 2009 4:13 AM PDT
Ahh! The dawning of the worldwide "Mega Data Center Network" has arrived ; and enterprise sales will, not only continue , but expand as more and better "intercommunication" equipment along with new and exciting software . The needs for "Cloud Computing" is becoming more evident in many ,many ways every day. It is true that security , privacy , reliability , are the Pillars of this "Service" if we are to provide a useful advantage to those that would choose to look to use and trust in the "Cloud" in the same manner as we have come to trust in our own bank. There will be problems in the future to be sure ,but I seriously doubt there will be any problem arise that cannot be quickly overcome.
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by anthony f wood March 28, 2009 4:05 AM PDT
I agree on all those points, bar trusting your own bank.... errr, which one would that be?

It has been fun to watch the world of communications change and fascinating to figure out what step is next and who is going to take that step, it is USUALLY someone small who gets gobbled up later in the rush, Funny that.
One problem is also trying to convince some of the older business heads to sit up and look around see what else is available for improving their operations, refusing to do so makes it a bit like trying to race a '52 Chev against a Ferrari. But some of these guys won't be told.
by Voice_Of_Logic March 25, 2009 6:36 AM PDT
No one should ever trust "the cloud". Our data should not be send to places where it cant be seen nor trusted.
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by jamesurquhart March 25, 2009 6:54 AM PDT
You can "see" your data? Kind of like Neo in The Matrix? Dude, wouldn't that be a sign that you *shouldn't* trust it?
by cesarr77 March 25, 2009 7:32 AM PDT
I tend to believe that when enterprise software is bundled with services you are going to need the enterprise sales rep or at least a consultant that is sales oriented but software that is out of the box will require less support from an enterprise account executives.

Cesar Rojas
ANTs Software
www.ants.com
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by Sekhar-Ravinutala March 25, 2009 10:32 AM PDT
I also see long-cycle traditional enterprise sales increasingly losing out to shorter try/buy deals. And I think this is part of an overall trend of buyers (1) getting richer information due to the many channels available today and (2) being better informed to be able to make decisions on their own rather than being swayed by sales pitches and/or branding.

But that is for familiar/established technologies. For something like cloud computing, where there're concerns still (about deployment, latency, performance, security, lock-in, to name a few), traditional sales will probably be actually more effective - because the buyers simply don't know enough yet to make a decision, so they'll need to hear from the sellers and limit risk by going with a brand they trust.
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by AlexK22 March 25, 2009 10:34 AM PDT
I work for a Platform as a Service company and I have been following this blog for quite some time now. I feel like everybody keeps saying the same thing over and over. We want some of our information in the cloud and some behind our firewall. Well, how about a product that has both. Our product allow for the 'hybrid' type computing everyone seems to be asking for. You can install the platform behind your firewall first, build the applications you need and then deploy the non-critical apps such as CRM to the cloud and keep the 'employee directory' behind the firewall all on the same platform.

I know it works because we eat our own dog food. We use the platform everyday. When we travel and will be with out an Internet connection for a while we simply synchronize our CRM application to our local machine, work off-line and when we finally get to our hotel room or office we deploy the app back to the cloud for everyone to see.

Our critical data applications such as employee directories or project manager are kept behind our firewall on our own machines and if we ever want to deploy them to the cloud it will only take a matter of minutes to do so. Then if we want re-synch the application to your local machine and blow away the data from the cloud we can do that to.

That was kind of a rant and I apologize but it is frustrating sometimes to here the same thing over and over about how the cloud is going to fail when it is clearly faster, cheaper and better then the status quo of traditional IT with development environments.

Alex Kranz
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by PeterCohen March 25, 2009 12:38 PM PDT
Getting back to James' original question, "Will cloud computing kill enterprise sales?," I don't think so.

Personal relationships still matter for large enterprise sales, and even more so for cloud/SaaS applications where the customer is trusting the vendor to maintain a critical application, protect their data, provide high reliability, and deliver enhancements over the life of the subscription. (FYI, I've written more on "Relationships Matter" at http://saasmarketingstrategy.blogspot.com/2009/03/relationships-matter.html)

That said, the SaaS business model does require that vendors manage their sales and marketing expenses very carefully. They cannot rely on large up-front license fees to cover the costs of unproductive activities. (To compare how effectively some of the larger, publicly-held SaaS companies are spending on sales and marketing to drive revenue growth, I've shown more here: http://saasmarketingstrategy.blogspot.com/2009/03/which-saas-companies-are-driving-high.html)

Peter Cohen, SaaS Marketing Strategy Advisors
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by ddrury72 March 25, 2009 1:26 PM PDT
James,

I am a twenty year veteran of the ERP wars, and I agree with the evolution statement. I think we need to remember that this is about much more than a paradigm shift in technology and platform, and look at things as a buyer. There are clearly business cases where a self serve, try and buy model can work. The more complex the needs the greater the demand for human interaction and consultation will always be. Assuming a multibillion dollar enterprise can truly analyze a sophisticated solution without human dialogue is pure fantasy, as witnessed by the fact that volumes of RFP responses are only the beginning of understanding real business drivers and the degree to which commercial software can address them. I have not met a single C level executive with fiduciary responibility to his or her company and shareholders that would make a commitment of this magnitude without meeting the providers, doing a deep dive to separate reality from roadmaps of future promises, and establishing a true partnership for success. I have seen sales models for mid market accounts shift to lower cost approaches using phone and web meeting technology, and have had success with this model into the low six figure sales. I bet this trend continues upward, but despite the gleam in the eyes of the visionaries out there Salesforce.com, Netsuite, and anyone selling up market are going to have direct teams enagaged for a long time to come. The death of the monolithic ERP beast should not be confused with the elimination of business risk and the need for robust, secure, mission critical solutions that may comprise many cloud based systems seamlessly riding the SOA bus of the future. For now there is still a lot of "electric koolaid " being consumed on the bus, and the magic cure to complexity remains elusive at best...
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by Len Bullard March 25, 2009 4:19 PM PDT
'volumes of RFP responses are only the beginning of understanding real business drivers and the degree to which commercial software can address them"

True. On the other hand in the business's I've worked in where RFP-driving is that initial communication (barring an RFI), I watched those RFPs go from a few dozen pages to well over 1200 or more and that is not counting the volume creative by normative referencing. All of that has to be analyzed and compared to the offering to return a valid and legal quote. That is, the business of contracting won't magically vanish into the cloud because Try and Buy assumes standard offerings at a level of detail that few products can wrap their shrink around.

Try and Buy is up against the problem of semi-shrink wrap heavily customized for locale systems.

WebSphere is Not Content.
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by ronnieray_2003 March 25, 2009 6:06 PM PDT
I would agree with many of the views here. Enterprise sales would not end but would transform to selling more complex, longer term and high value service deals. The outsourcers have been doing this for years, albeit delivering through physical infrastructure and staff. Cloud services will change the technology and components of delivery but not the requirement of an enterprise sale at the start.

Ronnie
www.marketplane.net/blog
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by jdos303 March 27, 2009 1:56 PM PDT
"Enterprise sales" will definitely have phased out in 100 years. Start looking for alternative employment!
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