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December 17, 2007 12:01 PM PST

Simkl and IM History: Two services that spy on your IM conversations (for you)

by Josh Lowensohn

The move to archive nearly everything we do online has been spearheaded mainly by Google in both Gmail as well as Google Web history. The same thing is happening in the chat space with Meebo and Google Talk, as well as desktop chat clients that have had integrated chat logging for years now. The one thing missing has been a way to take those locally saved conversations and make them available for search and reading while away from your home machine. IM History and Simkl are two companies have jumped on the task in an attempt to let people archive everything they've talked about, as long as they're willing to trust their log-in information to a third party. Like financial service Mint, that trust is rewarded with tools that let you get more out of each service than originally intended.

Between the two, IM History released first, and at the moment is the only one of the two that doesn't require an invitation to use. The service went 1.0 last week and supports six popular chat protocols, as well as desktop chat application Trillian. Windows users install a small app that sits on the taskbar and monitors any or all of the supported chat programs that have been setup to get cached. There's also a version for Linux users that works with the Pidgin multiclient chat application. Both versions quietly record your conversations and send them to a private server where you can come back and view them while away from the home machine.

The other new app is Simkl, which is still in private beta and has a nearly identical feature set to IM History, although Simkl takes a slightly different approach by forgoing software in place of having users manually route their messages through a proxy server. This takes a little more work on the part of the user, but the payoff is not having to install an application that may lose its efficacy on applications as they get updated. The service also provides how-to's that let you mindlessly set up each client.

The draw of both of these services is that once you've got them configured on one or more of your machines, it'll track your chats and make them available via separate gateway sites. IM History has the added benefit of letting you access that same information from the desktop application when you double-click the icon. It's a nice touch.

Between the two I'm partial to IM History because I prefer its more robust history browser. But I'm honestly too wary of the idea, no matter how good the execution is because of the potential security problems of having your IM logs sitting on someone else's servers. CNET and many other companies don't allow chat logging, and before using either of these solutions in the workplace you should check with your IT department.

Since Simkl is still in private beta for the time being, the folks there were nice enough to hook up Webware readers with some invites. There are 500 available, and to use them, just use "Webware" (no quotation marks) in as the invitation code when signing up.

Josh Lowensohn is an associate editor for Webware.com, CNET's blog about cool and otherwise useful Web applications and services. If you've found a site you'd like profiled, shoot him an e-mail. E-mail Josh.
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by tomho December 17, 2007 2:22 PM PST
are the Simkl beta invites ALREADY used up? Simkl says "Wrong Code, please change" when I use the Webware code!
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by PringlesMan December 17, 2007 4:28 PM PST
I don't think that they are all used up... For Simkl, use this code: Webware

It worked for me perfectly without quotation marks
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by nandayoxx January 27, 2008 11:17 PM PST
Josh,

very interesting article, BUT you should tell the Webware users that it's a HIGH security risk to use such services.

Simkl for example is using a proxy *between the messenger application and the messenger server* - so they receive the messenger history as well as the username and the password.

I think it is a HIGH security risk to use such services.

I was having a problem with IM-History the other day and used the "report problem" button. All I did was writing a text... "... I added a messenger the other day and somehow it doesn't work"

A customer representative got back to me and replied via email. He attached several details of my hard disk, like where the new messenger application is saved, several folders, etc. Because I was using Miranda (installation FREE) it means that the program saved and sent ALL my hard disk folder details (maybe more?)

Not that I would have something to HIDE, but it's a little "bit" TOO MUCH what these applications are transfering to the companies.
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by PringlesMan February 1, 2008 12:07 AM PST
Josh, about security - Simkl handles it much better because all you send to proxy is the messages from the software you use, and there is no way you can see passwords though a proxy because they are all are sent encrypted by your client software. On the other hand software such as im-history can log all your keystrokes and have your password logged, they can even log your online bank account name and password if they wanted to or someone of their multiple employees from Russia could insert into software and hijack any information from your PC.
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