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February 12, 2007 12:54 PM PST

Hands-on with Trillian Astra [UPDATED]

by Josh Lowensohn
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Trillian Astra is the next generation of Trillian, the popular multi-account instant messenger from Cerulean Studios. I was lucky enough to get my hands on the alpha build of Astra this morning and muck around with some of its new functionality. The alpha build lacked some of the new features being pitched on the Astra preview site.

(Credit: CNET Networks)

Astra is pretty. Really pretty. The new default skin called 'Cordonata' has that slick plastic look you'd find on Mac OS X or Windows Vista. It's also functional, taking up no more onscreen space than the current version of Trillian does. Message windows also seem better designed to handle tabs, and have a larger, more user-friendly design. Options for sending files and setting up conferences are at the bottom of message windows instead of the top, cutting down on clutter. You're also given a news ticker of sorts, which monitors your conversation and brings up content based on what you're talking about with your buddies. While talking with a friend of mine about his Nintendo DS, it brought up a news clipping for CNET's coverage of StumbleUpon's Wii viewer. This was a little creepy.

New to Astra are widgets, which can be added to a customized status bar that can be embedded into forums, Web sites and e-mails. Widgets are created by community developers and provide things like local weather information, mood, and pictures from Flickr. You can see examples of this at Cerulean's forums.

Also cool, but unfortunately not working well enough for me to fully test was the Astra Web interface, where you can login from any Web browser to chat with your buddies. As with Meebo, the interface looks like a desktop application.

A neat addition to Astra is the new framework given to designers for creating advanced skins. While the default theme is slick and good looking, choice is a good thing. Also tweaked is the ability to change skins without having to restart the app.

Trillian Astra also includes plug-ins for newer IM networks such as MySpace and Google Talk. (You could use Google Talk before, but you had to download the Jabber plug-in and edit the settings.) Likewise, to IM via MySpace required a software download and install. Adding both of these protocols to the core client is great.

No news on a solid launch date for Astra. In the meantime, if you want to sign-up for Astra testing, click here.

Have any questions about Astra? Ask in comments, and we'll try to answer.

Update: This post has been changed since it's original publish. Corrections were made regarding widgets and chat feeds.

Josh Lowensohn writes for Webware.com, CNET's blog about Web applications and services. E-mail Josh, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/Josh.
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great looking app, but big changes? invite?
by xxdesmusxx February 12, 2007 1:25 PM PST
I have been using a *cough* copy of lesser virtues *cough if you get my drift because I have been so excited to try this out and they are just taking there sweet time with the alpha/beta invites. I am a paid Trillian pro user, but they won't give any kind of preference to those of us who actually pay for their product. Sorry, I am rambling.

My question is, did they by chance give you any invites to give away? I'd love to try this out (in a legit way) if at all possible. :) Thanks so much for your brief preview. I look forward to more info about this wonderful app.

xxdesmus AT google's email service.
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no invites to give out, but we have a link...
by Josh.Lowensohn February 12, 2007 1:41 PM PST
Well, we have no invites to give out, but if you want to add your name to be invited, you can sign-up here:

http://blog.ceruleanstudios.com/?p=9

We've been told the testing pool will expand as development continues, so your best bet is to sign-up there.
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Patience is golden.
by AnotherPasserby February 14, 2007 10:20 AM PST
Hello xxdesmusxx, I am another person who also frequents the blog just like you. With your attitude you had shown in your posts in their blogs, I doubt they would like to choose a person who keeps rambling in their team. You would have a much better chance to get chosen if you just keep quiet and wait.
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Maybe they should focus on the basics!
by LesT73 February 14, 2007 1:19 AM PST
Hopefully Cerulean Studios have ironed out the well documented bug involving disconnections MSN and Hotmail accounts. It has personally caused me lots of frustration! Hopefully the new makeover isn't just skin deep.
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Fix this one too...
by Aerknx February 14, 2007 11:07 PM PST
I really like what i read here (cool UI, support for Gtalk and How sleeker can it get??). The only problem i face with Trillian is the lack of interoperability with Yahoo msgr while sending files..it really annoys me sometimes... Hopefully this one should fix this.
Your Choice should be Gaim
by wizardb February 17, 2007 5:31 AM PST
It been around is constantly being updated ,works like a charm with all other chat services and is open source what more could you want!!
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I agree, Sort of
by xxdesmusxx February 17, 2007 4:02 PM PST
I like GAIM quite a lot, in fact I use that probably 60% of the time since I have moved to Vista. My only problem with GAIM is that it visually boring. I do like the fact that it uses a native UI (via GTK), something that Trillian users have been requesting for years (that the devs have promptly ignored). I like Trillian because I can make it fit in with whatever theme I am currently using. It's a little thing, but I like that. I do like how lighweight GAIM is, and I like that it actually does work with other IM services, unlike Trillian (including Astra by the way).

There is always Miranda...except that is actually way over kill on customizability. I'd like something right in the middle of Miranda and GAIM.
GAIM is much better
by SouthBayAce February 17, 2007 2:36 PM PST
Purchased the Trillian Pro 3 version a while back, and it was a nightmare. I was intrigued by the idea of one piece of software, and needed to purchase the Pro version for Jabber.

Support was pretty much non-existant, except for a forum online. This was riddled with people looking for help, and most of the time it turned out new releases were bug ridden and made the software unusable.

A lot of times you had to load previous versions, and many features did not work.

I gave up, and was told about GAIM. Gaim is a modular messaging client capable of using AIM, MSN, Yahoo!, Jabber, ICQ, IRC, SILC, SIP/SIMPLENovell GroupWise, Lotus Sametime, Bonjour, Zephyr, Gadu-Gadu, and QQ all at once. It has been a solid piece of software and never thought about it once since I loaded and configured it. It just plain works.

Might not have the "skins", but would rather a product work than look pretty and not work. Too, I dont have the time to "try to make a product work."

On top of it all, GAIM was free.
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GAIM - Yes FREE and NO SUPPORT and need a DEGREE!
by carydc2 February 18, 2007 10:54 AM PST
Sure GAIM supports all those other protocols.

But there is a TON of research that you have to do to get it to work period. Like knowing each sites ports and exact URL to get them to work....

Who out there wants to research all the techno geek crap????

Been there done that no fun anymore. Trillian handles that for you. Plus who in the right mind is on 20 sites at the same time?

Give me a break.

There are So many out there it comes down to what are you trying to do....?

Communicate or create a spiderweb....

Many are corporate run like the lotus notes client. There you corporation needs to grant access plus they likely will not want you using something that is not their client.

Add to this it is share ware and NO SUPPORT.

I have used Trillian for 5 years. No issues. Had support. The User forums is where the support is. It works great. I did pay. I liked the product.

If you had problems it is likely because you did not go into the forums and ask questions.

All the Widget Designers are Golden. They answer questions and are very helpful. Much unlike GAIM.....

IM Clients are like taste in clothes. Everyone's is different and based on what they need to do.

GAIM has its strong suit. Flexibility. But that is its weak point as well. You are so flexible it can not have presetting included. That is a major issue when neophytes are involved. And neophytes are the majority of the users out there today.

Regards
Is it compatible with Mac OS X?
by jnthnp February 18, 2007 2:45 PM PST
Is this messenger going to be compatible with Mac OS X?
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For OS X, get Adium
by markbult February 20, 2007 10:23 AM PST
From the company's website: "...IMCore compiles natively on Win32, Linux, and OSX...Currently, all Cerulean-developed network plugins are powered by IMCore. Which means they all compile on Linux and OSX. Which means... :) "

Presumably this means that Trillian will eventually be ported to OS X.

But why wait? Adium's great and it's out now. And did I mention free?

http://www.adiumx.com/
I want it deadly..........
by shivam_007 June 25, 2007 2:57 AM PDT
Can i get Trillian Astra??When??........is it free??
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by anilatluri June 16, 2009 7:16 AM PDT
Go, download your Astra now!!! :)
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