August 31, 2009 8:09 PM PDT

Yahoo Messenger 10 beta: A legitimate Skype rival?

by Jessica Dolcourt
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It seems as if it were just yesterday that Yahoo's Messenger team rolled out version 9 (it was a little less than a year ago, in fact.) The upgrade was so dramatic and overdue that it's a little surprising Yahoo has already tweaked its chat client, now parading Yahoo Messenger 10 beta to testers and curious chatters. We're glad they did. Even though the changes may not please everyone uniformly, nor should they incite ire. The features build off Yahoo Messenger 9, emphasize social networking, and improved video calling.

You'll be able to learn more about the social networking aspects from the photo gallery. This blog will focus on the video features.

VoIP and PC-to-landline calls aren't new to Yahoo Messenger, but the icon that calls out video chats is. Most of the major IM clients support voice-over-Internet calls with Webcams. It is Yahoo's attention to video quality makes this build a closer competitor to Skype for Windows, which is a VoIP client first, enriched by chatting, file sharing, emoticons, and games. Yahoo Messenger (and Windows Live Messenger, and so on, for that matter,) are chat apps at the core that have layered on other P2P features.

Skype is still ahead in terms of total features, like screen sharing, its most recent contribution to the VoIP community. However, the Web chatting experience was good enough on Yahoo Messenger 10 beta in our tests that we might prefer to use it to start a casual video call if the app is already running, rather than fire up Skype. Admittedly, our tests were limited by the callers' proximity to each other, fast data connections, and strong computing configurations. We'll need to keep up the calling with a cross-section of international users to get a more accurate litmus. Since the improved video calling only works with other Yahoo Messenger 10 beta users, we may have to wait for further adoption to test these theories.

Chatting on Yahoo Messenger 10 beta (Credit: Screenshot by Jessica Dolcourt/CNET)

Proximity notwithstanding, there were some performance issues. The call quality was clear and the videos were as crisp as our hardware allowed. Chatting and file sharing, however, slowed to a crawl as the call progressed. This seems to be the reverse of Skype, in which chatting has, in the past, often transmitted faster than the voice packets. Again, being in the same city, let alone the same country, could at least partly explain the reversal.

In addition to both parties needing Yahoo Messenger 10 beta on their Windows computers, there are some basic system requirements. You'll need Windows XP or better with a 1GHz CPU processor and 512MB of RAM. Your broadband internet will require a minimum of 300Kbps download speed and a minimum of 128Kbps upload (test both here). Then there's the video card. You'll need at least 96MB memory. A Webcam is mandatory to output video calls, but not to see a buddy's video. However, you will receive an alert if you don't have a Webcam. The final ingredient we'll mention is that the latest version of Microsoft DirectX must be installed. Yahoo provides a full list of specs and tips in its help topics. Yahoo's Messenger team provides some common FAQs and video tips here

Briefly, some of the other video features include toggling the sound on and off and shifting the position of the Webcam windows on your screen. These convenience tools worked well and gave the application some depth; we also liked being able to transfer files in full screen mode, even though photo transfers were slow.

Bug encountered from an IM initiated in Yahoo Messenger 10 beta and received in Digsby.

This bug reminders us that beta software is often a work-in-progress.

(Credit: Screenshot by Jessica Dolcourt/CNET)

One more complaint: The new Yahoo Messenger 10 beta doesn't appear to play nicely with all third-party IM clients. We noticed when chatting with a buddy who uses Digsby, that each line we type was replicated in the chat window. Odd, yes, and also irritating over time. But not all users chatting between Yahoo Messenger 10 beta and a different chat client will encounter problems, but if you do, let us know.

Want to see more screenshots and feature details? We have plenty in the Yahoo Messenger 10 beta gallery. .

Originally posted at The Download Blog
Jessica Dolcourt reviews the latest and greatest smartphone apps, in addition to a healthy dose of Windows software. E-mail Jessica and follow her on Twitter.
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by Mr. Dee August 31, 2009 8:47 PM PDT
Doesn't look like much of an upgrade, but I will be upgrading anyway when it goes final. Most of my friends are on Live Messenger.
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by ceebee23 August 31, 2009 9:46 PM PDT
Sadly Yahoo messenger still looks as if it had been hit very hard by the ugly stick. The buddy window is seriously seriously horrid!
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by sharmajunior August 31, 2009 10:07 PM PDT
The only reason why I stopped using Yahoo messenger was becoz it used a lot of memory and the video quality still isn't up to par with Skype.
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by Mr_Rony August 31, 2009 11:34 PM PDT
Hie Is Rony.
I wish to make new friends & Talk & share With them My Hope, My Idea
so do u want join with me?
! ?
Ok Bye
Rony
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by Mr_Rony September 1, 2009 12:11 AM PDT
Hie Is Rony.
I wish to make new friends & Talk & share With them My Hope, My Idea
so do u want join with me?
! ?
Ok Bye
Rony
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by DJ_Mr_Ront September 1, 2009 12:18 AM PDT
Hie This Is Rony Waiting For Ur Response
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by KIMBERLYNOW September 13, 2009 12:20 AM PDT
i AM IN HE USA. wHERE R U?
by tm_anon September 1, 2009 1:02 AM PDT
One huge reason why it's not a Skype replacement, Skype is cross platform.

Until it's fully cross platform, Yahoo can't replace Skype for anyone but Windows users. Great that the new version works so well but honestly, it doesn't do anyone who doesn't use Windows any good.

Besides, Yahoo is still full of bots. Skype isn't.
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by externallain September 1, 2009 8:23 AM PDT
People still use Instant Messengers? I'm not being a troll, I seriously didn't think people used those anymore.
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by Shanghai Kid September 2, 2009 2:28 AM PDT
What are they supposed to use instead?
by slumbergod September 1, 2009 9:52 AM PDT
Sure people still use messengers. No matter how much I've tried I just can't get into social networking sites. Besides, at work everyone in this office uses msn/wlm for inter-office communication.

The biggest advantage of skype over yahoo/wlm is that it is cross platform (recently they released beta 2.1 for linux users). Sure it's no big deal if you are a windows user but most of my friends are developers and they almost always prefer mac or linux.
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by nanno_nanno86 September 1, 2009 4:06 PM PDT
thank uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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by QA_Tester September 1, 2009 4:56 PM PDT
I have used yahoo messenger heavily for a while, but most people I talk yo are on MSN Messenger, and a couple on Skype and Google Talk. I am logged to all three now. Although Yahoo Messenger is installed .too.
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