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June 17, 2009 8:24 AM PDT

How well do Netbooks work with Web apps?

by Josh Lowensohn
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Netbooks are an incredibly exciting new product category, and one that's undergoing constant evolution. Designed to handle e-mail, Web browsing, and some basic software apps, they are somewhat limited when compared with most full-size laptops, but how limited? I wanted to find out.

I've dug into a few dozen popular sites that I use, and made note of basic performance through extended use. Did they work? Did they not work? These were things I wanted to test.

The verdict: overwhelmingly positive. Besides a few issues with Adobe Flash performance (which we get into later), it handles most things with speed and agility. Before delving any deeper though, let's go over the test machine and browsers we used:

The machine:
Dell Mini Inspiron 10 (a loaner review unit)
OS: Windows XP Home
Processor: Intel Atom Z530 dual-core 1.6ghz (533MHz FSB/512K L2Cache)
Memory: 1GB
Display: 10.1" widescreen (1366x768)
Graphics: Intel GMA 500
Retail cost as configured (before magic Dell coupons): $474

The browsers:
Internet Explorer 8 (v8.0), Google Chrome (v2.0.172.31), Firefox (v3.0.10). I would have loved to do additional testing in Safari and Opera, but for the sake of simplicity I stuck with the big three.

The browsers, and the OS were as lean as possible. None of the browsers was running any add-ons, or special plug-ins besides Java and the latest version of Adobe Flash. There were also no other programs running besides the Windows activity monitor.

For the sake of simplicity, I've divided up the sites I tested into two categories: work and play. Assuming you're buying a Netbook for either purpose, you're likely to dabble in both realms at some point.


Work

These are Web apps that let you get things done, be it business, homework, or personal scheduling.

Google Docs and Zoho--Both of these online office suites performed great. Zoho clearly has far more tools in one place than Google Docs does, so for the sake of this test I just used the ones that both shared which include word processing, spreadsheets, and presentations. The Netbook handled all of them without any slowdown, however this is definitely one set of tools where a larger screen resolution makes it easier to see what you're doing. Otherwise, a small text increase in your browser (Ctrl +) makes it feel normal. Kudos go to both sites for offering a special full-screen view of the workspace. This let me get more use out of the slightly smaller screen.

Zimbra performs well on Netbooks. Not tested in this roundup was the desktop version.

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Zimbra is the perfect office Web app for Netbooks. You get e-mail, calendaring, chat, document editing and creation, as well as contact management in one tight package. I gave both the Ajax and HTML versions of the service a spin, and the performance was equally great across all three browsers. Not tested was the desktop, software-based version, but based on the requirements it should run on just about anything.

Google and Yahoo Calendar are both lightweight Web applications. Google's iteration uses AJAX (which means less page refreshes), and the provides the option to create meetings or appointments simply by clicking and dragging on-screen. Any Netbook, even older models, should have no problem with these apps.

DimDim--We wanted to put WebEx through its paces, but for the sake of this story we're going with free tools. DimDim, one of my personal favorites, makes for a good test subject. Its free version lets you screen share, video chat, voice chat, work on a whiteboard, co-view Web pages, and even record the entire session to view later. I did all of those things, and while there was a little slow-down when co-viewing Web pages, the person on the other end said that the video and voice were coming in loud and clear.

Google Reader/iGoogle/My Yahoo/Netvibes--All of these RSS and widget news pages ran with ease. Similar to the calendar apps, these are designed to be lightweight, with the exception of some of the widgets that can run on them.

Google Maps/Bing Maps/Yahoo Maps/Ask Maps/MapQuest--These five popular mapping services all worked without a hitch. Tiles came in fast, and there was no slowdown when zooming in and out.

In terms of specialty mapping services, Street View in Google Maps was fluid, although not quite as buttery smooth as is on my MacBook. And the 3D view in Bing Maps worked when set to its most basic level, but there was a notable drop in performance when compared to the standard detail layers. I would not recommend trying to run the more graphics-intensive modes that actually give you 3D buildings, since these require a dedicated graphics card (something most Netbooks don't have).

Flickr's organizing tool works great on Netbooks. It's even better on netbooks with higher resolution screens (note: this screenshot was taken on a Mac).

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Flickr (organizer)--Viewing photos on Flickr works just dandy, but what about if you're trying to do some heavy re-arranging and tagging of shots you just uploaded? Its photo organization tool is JavaScript-heavy, which gave me some doubts. The good news is that it works great. No slowdown, and no lag when dragging and dropping photos and videos.

Storage. The Mini I was using for the test comes with 160GB hard drive, but many Netbooks come with less. An easy solution is Web storage, either through the browser, or with a hybrid desktop solution like Mozy or Carbonite. Since we're trying to keep this test as software-free as possible, I limited my online storage providers to Box.net, MobileMe, ADrive and DropBox.

The Netbook handled all of them with ease, except for MobileMe, which is not IE-friendly (that's not the computer's fault though). My favorite of the bunch is Box since you can preview most file types without having to use outside software, or download the entire thing to your hard drive. If you're looking for a service that provides you with a virtual folder that can be used in your computer's regular file explorer, both MobileMe and DropBox can do that. Of those two I prefer DropBox because it behaves the same on multiple operating systems.

Video chat. The computer I was testing has a Web cam, so how did it handle two-way video chat? I used both Google Talk (in Gmail) and TokBox. It worked flawlessly with both, although I give a nod to TokBox for not making me install any additional software to make that happen. You can also do use TokBox's two-way video chat inside of Meebo, which brings us to...


Play

These are Web apps that may let you do work, but most are for fun and entertainment.

Meebo. This chat app works great, although this was one of the few apps where screen resolution becomes important. I had to increase the size of the text in my browser to more easily read what was on the screen. Most browsers these days save these settings on a per-page basis though.

Kongregate. Our test Netbook tackled a handful of Flash games with ease. There was no slow down, or lag with the controls on the dozen or so games we played. If you want to see how today's Netbooks handle full retail games, check out this guide at Gamespot. They put two similarly-spec'd machines up against popular software titles to see what played well, and what didn't.

Flash games on Kongregate were smooth and responsive. (note: this screenshot was taken on a Mac)

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YouTube worked without a hitch. I could view normal and high-quality videos without any slowdown or system hiccups. This came close to topping out the processor though. And as expected, HD videos don't play well. This is a mix of a need for Flash optimization and simple hardware requirements that some Netbooks won't meet. Will they get there? More on that later.

Vimeo--Like YouTube, non-HD videos worked fine, while HD videos slowed to just a couple of frames per second. Unlike YouTube though, Vimeo has this odd quirk where you get slowdown when viewing HD videos with the HD turned off. This only happened when turning HD off mid-video though. Once I reloaded the page, the video would play just fine.


Hulu played great, as long as it wasn't the "Hi-Res" stream, or viewed in full screen.

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Hulu--Same story as YouTube and Vimeo. As long as it's the standard stream it's fine. What's unfortunate though, is that I experienced the notable slowdown when jumping up to the 480p stream (the standard is 360p). This isn't even HD video, it's just a higher resolution stream. I also got a slowdown on the low-quality stream when I put it into full-screen mode, which is how I'm guessing most folks will want to enjoy a 25-minute long episode of their favorite show.

Picnik. This popular online photo editor handled simple edits on 12 megapixel shots with relative ease. Crops, rotations, and resizing were smooth and fluid. However, our machine had to work harder to handle Picnik's filter effects, which is one of the things that makes the site really fun to use. You can still use all of its features though--even the collage tools. You simply don't get the smoothness or responsiveness you get on a more powerful machine.

Facebook--As expected, all of Facebook works marvelously with a Netbook. The only exception is HD videos, which in truth, most of my friends are not putting up on the service. Other parts of the service, such as chat and photo viewing worked great.

MySpace works well, although is not as snappy as Facebook, in part because of the music players that users tend to have on their profile pages. While the music portion of the site works just fine, I ran into the usual slowdown problems on MySpace's video site. Standard, user uploaded videos worked fine, but the larger resolution items suffered slowdown.


The verdict

I was genuinely surprised how well the Mini handled nearly everything I could throw at it. The one obvious shortcoming in all of this is video. I spoke to Adobe about this, which along with hardware makers, is working on a fix. The bad news is that the fix is likely to require new hardware.

The bottom line for determining Flash performance is hardware that can take that highly compressed video and decompress it quickly. Full-sized laptops with beefier processors can handle this with with CPU cycles to spare. Most Netbooks, however, come with ultra low-power chips that come up a little short. Anup Murarka, who is Adobe's director of partner development and technology strategy told me this is only temporary though. "The new generation of Netbooks, due late this year, or early next year will start to address these issues," he said.

Something that may help with that is an update to Flash that will help it make more use out of multi-core processors, and on-board graphics processing units. For instance, the Mini I was using can tear through local HD video with relative ease using its integrated decoder. It also has an extra core that was not being used to its full potential. Flash does not yet tap into those, but it could in the future. The main thing that's keeping Adobe from sinking time into building that support right away, is that it would have to do so for the individual hardware configuration of each Netbook.

So is it worth buying one now, or waiting? As with any computer purchase, it depends on your needs. If you're OK not viewing HD videos, it does everything else, and does it well.

On the hardware side though, just make sure you opt for a higher screen resolution if it's available. Most Web apps like horizontal space, and if you're planning to use photo tools like Picnik and Flickr's organizer, the extra little bit helps. I would go with something that's at least 1024 pixels wide.

It's also worth seeing the device in person, since the keyboards on Netbooks can feel a little crammed. Even though manufacturers are getting them in upward of 95 percent the size of a standard keyboard, that difference takes some getting used to. Even after a few weeks on mine, it was still jarring to switch back and forth between a full-size machine. It also depends on what kind of applications you're using.

Had any problems or experiences with certain apps while using a Netbook? Let me know in the comments.

Josh Lowensohn writes for Webware.com, CNET's blog about Web applications and services. E-mail Josh, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/Josh.
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by vikinzer June 17, 2009 8:38 AM PDT
I have to say that this is a nearly useless article to me because it does not address the linux element with netbooks. There are significantly different strengths and weaknesses with linux on a netbook, and the video issue is even more complex. With the low cost emphasis of these devices, and the impending "smartbook" segment that Microsoft will not be able to jump into these issues are important. I will never run a netbook with Windows. It's a waste of money, and it's silly with the range of uses netbooks are designed for. You should run an Ubuntu Dell with identical specs through these paces and put up a comparison, or this is just wasted internet white space.
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by Josh.Lowensohn June 17, 2009 9:14 AM PDT
I would have loved to test every config, but I went with the most popular Dell model with the most-ordered hardware and OS.
by msalsbury June 17, 2009 9:27 AM PDT
While I agree that it would be good (for Linux) to show how useful Linux on a netbook can be for those who are trapped in a Windows or Mac OS X mindset, I don't think this article is "wasted space" at all.

A lot of people see me sitting at my netbook and ask "Since it's so small, how can you do anything useful with it?" This article demonstrates quite clearly that netbooks are entirely capable of running many apps with ease and doing very productive work (regardless of the OS in use). That will help many people who might think netbooks are "junk" or "useless toys" (ala Steve Jobs) realize that they're actually useful, capable devices. Sure, they're not the equivalent of a "real" laptop or desktop, but they're small, light, cheap, run for a long time between charges, and can do quite a bit. This makes them a good choice for many (though far from "all") uses... regardless of the OS in use.

I think a similar article showing what running Linux on your netbook can do for it (and you) would be valuable as well. I happen to run both (Windows 7 and Linux) on my netbook and have found both to be of value for different reasons.
by vikinzer June 17, 2009 9:33 AM PDT
I certainly wouldn't expect every config to be tested, but the question of "what can the netbook really do?" is at the heart of it Linux is even worth running on a netbook. I don't necessarily expect an in depth analysis of Linux specifically, but trying these tasks on a netbook with Linux so you can talk about the big system advantages/limitations would actually provide some meaningful data to people trying to decide if it's worth blowing the extra money on the Windows version. Right now almost everyone who is talking about Linux on a netbook are Linux fans. Someone needs to do a side by side comparison in the constraints of the limited functionality of a netbook who is not already biased.

I have only seen one netbook running Windows so far. Every other netbook I have seen is running Linux. I have to admit this makes all the market share speculation I've seen a little suspect, but I might just be in an odd little pocket. Everyone knows that Windows is capable of the tasks listed above, and anyone who has used a computer from the age where new computers were about as fast as current netbooks can take a wild stab at which tasks they will be able to run. The real only element most people don't have experience with is Linux, especially as Linux wasn't the OS it is now back when your average computer was as powerful as netbooks are now. It takes advantage of hardware more efficiently, yet uses more hardware than it used to. So establishing exactly what it can or cannot do in relation to windows puts legitimately new data out there. Windows XP is so ancient that anyone who can't figure out what it would do at a given resolution obviously isn't paying attention.
by Seaspray0 June 17, 2009 3:14 PM PDT
@vikinzer. While it may not address your needs, it does address mine and that of the majority. I don't appreciate you calling addressing my needs "useless article" and "wasted internet white space" because it wasn't tested for 1% of users. I don't call your articles wasted space. You need to learn some respect for others choices.
by Seaspray0 June 17, 2009 3:32 PM PDT
Should someone do the above test on the same netbook running linux, I would be interested in reading the results. Unlike some, I do like to keep informed of other choices and what they can do.
by gggg sssss June 17, 2009 7:31 PM PDT
considering only 3 people have actually purchased a Linux Dell mini, nodody really cares how they work.
by dbmalya June 20, 2009 5:33 AM PDT
Admit it dude, LINUX SUCKS big time. Even windows 2000 has better and more practical apps than the latest version of openSUSE or fedora core, LOL-I don't care if it's easier to create an email server in linux, it DOESN'T EVEN PROVIDE A DISK DEFRAGMENTER. Get yourself a pirated copy of windows if you cannot afford the original. CHEERS !!
by ouiving--2008 June 17, 2009 8:48 AM PDT
Single window, single web app is not how most people work, try this same test and have zimbra open, while you are working on a spreadsheet, and listening to a stream. Then it would be an accurate test.
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by foldsomething June 17, 2009 10:20 AM PDT
I agree... having multiple apps open would have been a more interesting test. I almost always stream music when using my computer and not at the "office".

I also take (small) exception to calling IE8, Firefox and Chrome the "Big Three." Less than 2% of web traffic comes from Chrome... Safari is in 3rd place with a little over 8%... although I'm pretty sure most of that is on Macs and this was a Windows test.

Anyhoo, it's a cool idea to showcase how netbooks perform with these types of tasks. I hope you do a follow up when new hardware / software comes out.
by Seaspray0 June 17, 2009 3:18 PM PDT
We should do this test with the computer doing some graphical design rendering, video editing, wav to mp3 conversions, and calculating calculus algorithims, all simultaneously. That's what a netbook is for, right?
by gggg sssss June 17, 2009 7:33 PM PDT
@ foldsomething - where is plings spouting off about how Opera shoudl hav ebeen tested?
by gggg sssss June 17, 2009 7:34 PM PDT
@ seaspray - I want to know how well it runs autocad
by L33tLuXX0rz June 17, 2009 8:50 AM PDT
THis is great I am planning to buy one in the next weeks. I would have liked a preview of iTunes on it though, but that requires downloads which the author avoided in this test.
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by Josh.Lowensohn June 17, 2009 9:18 AM PDT
I actually did put iTunes on it and it runs just fine. There's a little slowdown on things like coverflow and the fancy new(ish) 3-D visualizer . But if you're using it as a jukebox it's good.
by Vegaman_Dan June 17, 2009 8:52 AM PDT
Why is it surprising that a netbook running a web browser wouldn't have any problem with web applications? The hardware resources more than exceed what is needed by the browser so of course it will do well.

It's a better test to see what web browser does best with each web app instead.
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by Josh.Lowensohn June 17, 2009 9:23 AM PDT
Well, as you can see from the results, it did have some problems.

Good idea re:best browser for each app though. Would make for a fun story.
by bmccaig June 17, 2009 8:59 AM PDT
Get a grip vikinzer! Stats show that 80% of all netbooks are sold with Windows XP on them, so Josh's article is perfectly valid!! Just because his article doesn't apply to you, doesn't mean it's a waste of space! Personally, I thought it was a very good article, with 1 exception: most netbooks have N260 Atom processor, not the Z530. There's a pretty big difference between the processors and that alone is enough for me to question the results of his findings.

Josh, please update your findings based on the (much) more common N260 processor please.
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by alflanagan June 17, 2009 9:01 AM PDT
I too would like to see a comparison with a Linux install. Not to mention Vista/Windows 7, or do those not run on the netbooks?
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by Josh.Lowensohn June 17, 2009 9:21 AM PDT
Windows 7 is still in early release candidate stage so it was not tested. Dell can also ship Ubuntu 8.0.4.
by CharlesJBarry June 17, 2009 9:29 AM PDT
Windows 7 runs very well on the Dell netbooks. The mydellmini.com forums are full of information on all four current and past models of Dell netbooks including how to get non-XP home and Ubuntu 8.0.4 OSs to run on them.
by gggg sssss June 17, 2009 7:36 PM PDT
you know of course that Dell does not yet sell Windows 7, nor Vista on these machines
by Dan7637 June 17, 2009 9:18 AM PDT
yeah this was using a dual core atom
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by ikramerica--2008 June 17, 2009 5:07 PM PDT
Good point. Only top of the line netbooks have the dual core, the ones approaching the price of the low-end laptops. I'd prefer to see how a Dell 10v performs, as it is more likely to be the one most people buy from Dell.

Also, I would imagine that 2GB of RAM would improve things quite a bit, prevent so much swapping.
by iff2mastamatt June 22, 2009 6:49 AM PDT
I don't think the Mini 10 can be upgradeable to 2 GB of RAM, but the Mini 9 can. It is using the Z530 which is the fastest atom processor available for the Mini 10. Most netbooks use the atom N270.
by CharlesJBarry June 17, 2009 9:18 AM PDT
Just to pick nits; the Intel Atom Z530 processor is NOT a dual core processor. It is a Single core; HyperThreaded processor. No Netbooks are shipping with dual core Atom 300 series processors yet. Otherwise, a good article for the Windows/Webapp users.
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by Seaspray0 June 17, 2009 3:23 PM PDT
I can understan Dan7637's confusion on that. Hyperthreading processors look like two processors as seen by the XP. There is a big difference in performace for hyperthreading vs dual core. In some cases, hyperthreading can actually slow performance.
by ChrisEdward June 21, 2009 6:51 PM PDT
Good point, Charles.
Also, the majority of Netbooks use the Atom N270 processor with the 945GSE integrated graphics chipset. It would be nice to see the same set of test run on the more mainstream configuration since that's what most people are buying.
by justdaven June 17, 2009 10:17 AM PDT
Thank you, Josh. This gave me good information I can use with my clients who are evaluating buying a netbook. Have a great day!
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by Logotrope June 17, 2009 10:26 AM PDT
A follow up article on how netbooks running Linux fare with the online sites would be useful.

Also, Microcoft Office Live is another alternative worth examining.
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by mhspear June 17, 2009 10:27 AM PDT
I need to tell you I love the new Dell mini. My son bought it for me so I didn't have to haul my HP everywhere. I use everything on it including adobe , office all that good stuff. Course heavy duty stuff I do on my HP or my Compaq desktop. For hauling with though it can't be beat. I get 7 hot spots at out local park. Just for conformity, I keep most of my files on an external 250g hard drive and only run essential programs on the mini. But for 21/2 pound including the ac and hdd, it's great !
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by arshield June 17, 2009 11:04 AM PDT
The bigger issue with validity is your screen specs. Almost no netbook screens have that much resolution. Most are 800 by 600 or 800 by 585.

I bought my friend a netbook and she loves it. I was going to buy one for her kids and she said not to because Webkins, her kids favorite web app wouldn't work on the small resolution.

I agree with most things working. I run Windows 7, Office 2007 and Adobe Acrobat on my Dell Mini 9 and it all works great. It really is the small screen and wanky keyboard that are the problems. Not the speed.
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by Josh.Lowensohn June 17, 2009 12:32 PM PDT
I agree with that on the 800x600 which was all the rage in previous generation Netbooks. My guess is that most, if not all Netbooks will have a similar size panel I was using by the end of the year. In terms of the Dell, the company end of life'd the Mini 9 series, and other manufacturers have moved away from the 7-9 inch models in favor of making 10" the new standard.
by ikramerica--2008 June 17, 2009 5:15 PM PDT
Dell still sells the Vostro A90, and the mini 10v resolution is worse, not better, than the mini 9. Just as most netbook owners won't have a dual core, most won't be springing for the 720p display you have either. I wouldn't expect this netbook to run HD video at HD resolution that well, or even 480p blown up to HD, because Core Solo and Core Duos running at 1.83 with more memory had trouble doing that.

But at the moment, most netbooks are shipping with some form of WSVGA, either 1024x600 or 1024x576, and N270/280 processors. Yours is an outlier, not the norm.
by JohnLaCombe June 17, 2009 11:19 AM PDT
I personally took the dive and bought a netbook about 6 months ago. I have not used a regular laptop since. I am a little frustrated that you did not test opera, as it is also my browser of choice.

Opera runs the fastest with the least resources which is extremely important when dealing with a netbook. It also has a little button on the bottom right which with one click makes the webpage fit the screen. This is probably the most handy tool on a low res netbook.

Gmail and transparencies on myspace slow down the experience tremendously though.
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by Josh.Lowensohn June 17, 2009 12:33 PM PDT
Oh that is a nice feature. Sounds like a good follow-up idea for the above commenter's idea on doing a best browser for the app test.
by nafhan June 17, 2009 12:28 PM PDT
The Z530 is single core. The 330 is the only dual core Atom. However, all have hyperthreading and should show up in windows task manager as two processors.

Here's Intel's Atom processor specs:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/atom/specifications.htm
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by Aaron Kempf June 17, 2009 12:58 PM PDT
well maybe you should hire some journalists that use netbooks for more than just webbrowsing.. for example-- how about databases? data entry?

that's where I see a lot of exciting stuff happening.. is people entering stuff on a netbook that replicates with the master database once an hour.. because the netbook has a decent amount of resources- - it works a lot better than a handheld for occassionaly connected apps
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by christian368102 June 17, 2009 1:27 PM PDT
tell me when you update the post so it has more than 1 net book. ok?
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by Soniccrash June 17, 2009 3:35 PM PDT
I have an Acer Aspire 1 and it has been working grate, I have found not real short commies. Like you I have found that full screen when watching certain streams, it does slow down, but watching a movie it works perfect.With no CD the life of battery is longer the my big laptop. with the integrated bluetooth and WIFI I am able to connect anywhere. Overall I found I am using my netbook more then my desktop and laptop.
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by zelrik June 17, 2009 3:53 PM PDT
What's the point of that. Netbooks dont work that well on Windows anyway. You could have tested Ubuntu Linux instead, and gain about a factor 2 in performance...
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by Forked_Tongue June 17, 2009 5:00 PM PDT
Why limit yourself to Windows or Ubuntu when you can run puppy linux, or pupeee. You can even use the one preconfigured with Opera as the web browser as well.

Z530 single core but supports hyper-threading.

Most netbook resolutions are 1024 x 600 and not 800 x 600.
by gggg sssss June 17, 2009 7:40 PM PDT
why not OS X? Ok so apple will sue, but is taht a good reason?
by viper396 June 18, 2009 12:32 PM PDT
@Forked_Tongue, some of you fanatical linux geeks may not understand this but most people buy their systems to get work done. They just want it to do the job with what they are familiar with. They have more important concerns then fumbling around with multiple OS'es and I guarantee many of them don't have any negative concerns about being "limited" to a single OS.


zelrik. Your assumption that Windows don't work well on Netbooks (or Linux "will gain about a factor 2 in performance" ....whatever the heck that is measured by) is just steroptyphical FUD from the Linux crowd with no meaningful facts to sustain it. Do you think false and arbitary statements such as yours reflects well on the Linux community?
by forever4now June 17, 2009 4:12 PM PDT
It would be nice to run the same tests with a netbook equipped with Nvidia Ion. I suspect the video issues would go away.

In any case, it sounds like netbooks perform quite well when they are used, as envisioned: as "net"-connected devices.
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by Skiermax June 17, 2009 6:01 PM PDT
What do you mean calling IE, Firefox, and Chrome "the big three". Chrome isn't that big yet!! The "BIG Three" are really IE, Firefox, and Safari. Chrome isn't big and has no Mac version. No matter what you mean by saying Safari isn't a "big three", it's incorrect. Chrome is clearly tied with opera. I mean who really uses that anyway.....
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by viper396 June 18, 2009 12:45 PM PDT
Of course no CNET article would be complete without some petty Mac user trying to somehow argue why Apple was excluded....

Most safari useage is on the Mac or the iPhone. The article focused on netbooks running Windows. Apple doesn't have a netbook therefore it get's excluded. Safari usage on NON-OSX platforms is actually insignificant compared to Chrome.
by pkortge June 20, 2009 5:53 AM PDT
@Skiermax: Google has release a version of Chrome for Mac ... I'm using it now :-)
by pkortge June 20, 2009 5:56 AM PDT
@viper396: Maybe you should check your facts about browser share. Wikipedia says (as at May 09) Safari 8.43%, Chrome 1.80%.

Apple said (12 June) "that more than 11 million copies of its new Safari 4 web browser have been downloaded in the first three days of its release, including more than six million downloads by users of Microsoft's Windows operating systems".

6 Million is not a small number.

PS: I'm a computer user - using Macs, PC's & Linux/Solaris/Ubuntu boxes.
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