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April 16, 2009 3:57 PM PDT

Gmail outage afflicts some users

by Stephen Shankland

Updated at 6:44 p.m. PDT with second Twitter hashtag, at 7:53 p.m. with continuing outage information, and at 12:06 p.m. PDT April 17 with user commentary and further details comment from Google.

Google's e-mail service went on the blink for a "small subset" of users, Google said Thursday, but Google said it's on the mend.

"We're aware of a problem with Google Mail affecting a small subset of users. The affected users are unable to access Google Mail," Google said in a status message (click on events on 4/16/09) at 2:16 p.m. PDT Thursday. By 3:29 p.m., the company said, "Google Mail service has already been restored for some users, and we expect a resolution for all users within the next 1 hour."

It looks like Google is having a harder time than it expected getting this problem licked, though.

Its post at 3:29 p.m. said it expected a resolution for all users within 1 hour, though Google cautioned that was only an estimate, proved highly optimistic. At 4:43 p.m., Google said again it expected a fix within an hour. At 5:42 p.m., it gave itself another two hours. And at 7:43 p.m., it estimated a fix by 8:43 p.m. for all users.

At 8:44 p.m., Google said it fixed the problem. "We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience and continued support," the company said in its online note.

Google also said in a statement to CNET News that although the outage lasted a long time overall, individuals generally weren't affected for the duration. "We were able to restore normal access to the vast majority of users in about an hour. The remaining group of affected users after our second post on the Status Dashboard was much smaller in size. It's also worth noting that the nature of this issue was rolling, such that individual users were generally not affected for very long," Google said.

Twitter users, often an indicator of the latest waves propagating across the Internet, griped about the problem with the tweets using the #gmaildown and #gmailfail hashtags.

'Tis the season for flaky Webmail. Already this month, outages and problems have surfaced at Comcast, Yahoo Mail, and Microsoft's Hotmail.

It can be frustrating or worse when e-mail access vanishes. Abby Snyder, who's been using Gmail since 2006, lost access to her account Friday morning through a problem Google believes is unrelated. Even if her problem is separate, though, she has a complaint that is shared by many others.

"I have been doing everything I can think of to try to fix my problem, but as the office joke of the day says, 'You can't just call Google,'" Snyder said. "It poses an interesting question as to why Google does not have an actual customer support team, and simply a system of automated e-mails."

Google thinks that its e-mail support system is "robust" for a free service. "Generally, our online support options enable us to process and analyze requests more efficiently than other methods," the company said in a statement.

Stephen Shankland writes about a wide range of technology and products, but has a particular focus on browsers and digital photography. He joined CNET News in 1998 and since then also has covered Google, Yahoo, servers, supercomputing, Linux and open-source software, and science. E-mail Stephen, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/stshank.
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by farker1 April 16, 2009 4:28 PM PDT
it hit me
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by monkeyfun14 April 16, 2009 4:34 PM PDT
God damn what is it with email companies and downtime this month.
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by glaven123 April 16, 2009 4:44 PM PDT
Hmmm. Gmail must stil be in beta or something. I can't believe people trust a free beta solution with their communication.
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by cusoman April 16, 2009 4:53 PM PDT
Complain only when you are paying for the service.

Gmail is free and you know you get what you pay for.........
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by skillingssucks April 16, 2009 4:58 PM PDT
Their downtime is no worse than any paid for service.
by Shankland April 16, 2009 6:43 PM PDT
Just because it's free doesn't mean you don't have the right to complain or at least feel dissatisfied. Google wants you as a member, for Gmail and many other services, and Google places ads next to your e-mail messages. You may not have a service level agreement with the free version of Gmail, but that doesn't exonerate Google when it goes down. You do have a customer relationship with Google when you're using Gmail.

Watching network TV over the air is free, but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences when it goes down.
by AndrewRich April 16, 2009 5:49 PM PDT
It was #gmailfail.
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by Shankland April 16, 2009 6:45 PM PDT
Ah, yes, that's a second one. I added that to the story. Thanks for the news.
by the_ricochet April 16, 2009 6:30 PM PDT
Hit me too. Poo.
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by ozziethesaint2570 April 16, 2009 7:21 PM PDT
is anyone still having problems with this? I still cant get to my account
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by graydog111 April 20, 2009 7:05 AM PDT
I cannot access my Gmail except with Thunderbird. It was down 2 days about the 13th of April and then it quit again about April 18th . This is terrible.
by nttwrs April 16, 2009 7:50 PM PDT
It's interesting nobody points out (not just here, but in general) that hotmail has been down LESS than gmail over the past year, or the fact that hotmail, strictly when you're talking about moving through the inbox and initial load-up time, is now faster, cleaner (using adblock in ff), and simpler than the bogged-down-with-cool-features (albeit still fast) gmail. Yet, when hotmail did actually go down a couple of weeks ago, all the comments / blogs were screaming "gmail, this is why i use gmail!". And, just FYI, I love both gmail and hotmail.
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by monkeyfun14 April 16, 2009 7:59 PM PDT
Because hotmail is made by MS every MS hater has to find a reason to attack the company. MS could stop world hunger and you would still have people saying MS was copying off of someone.
by April 16, 2009 8:41 PM PDT
Hey Stephen, I can not believe that you are still allowed to post your articles after your recent debacle commenting on the Internet Explorer 8. No wonder there are fewer comments this time.. Is some one reading these comments at Cnet.com ????
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by slecalvez April 16, 2009 9:36 PM PDT
Gmail definitely fails more than hotmail... that's been true this year.
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by pops-people April 16, 2009 11:16 PM PDT
Comcast, Yahoo Mail, and Microsoft's Hotmail... and now GMail... in a single month? I work in the business so I know that weird coincidences happen all the time; It's what makes the job interesting and fun (Iin a typically sick-and-twisted way). However, I also know that too many coincidental "accidents" usually means that there is something going wrong that should be looked at. It's not that hosted email systems went down (happens all the time) - but for that many to go down in a single month?

Anyone else think this a little odd?

Then again, maybe I should trade in my Stetson and get fitted for a Tin-foil helmet and start circling random letters in the bible looking for the code that is obviously there ;)
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by web hosting india April 17, 2009 1:54 AM PDT
Since its free so don't expect its to be 100% flawless :)
But still its of a good value to users..
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by yacahuma April 17, 2009 7:13 AM PDT
I use my gmail account everyday. And what you get for free is amazing. As a programmer is good to see that this guys are real humans that face the same problems (at a larger scale) than us. I know the pain and suffering of trying to fix something as soon as possible. People have to understand that computers fail, hardwire fails, network fails, etc, etc. Is just the way it is. Maybe Hotmail has less problems, because it has less users. I dont know. Maybe is the stupid spammers overloading communication. In any case Google keep up the good work.
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by mcepat April 17, 2009 9:01 AM PDT
@yacahuma

"Maybe Hotmail has less problems, because it has less users"

heehee thats funny GMail: 51Million users compared to Hotmail: 228Million users

Hotmail is fast, clean and the ui and functionality blows away gmail in every aspect, thats why 228 million people use it everyday, and as far as downtime compared to gmail its rock solid

gmail always looks like a little kid wrote it with no style, actually anything google does looks childish and not completely finished

yup ms fanboy comment, but numbers and downtime are real and a fact
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by nattybumpo12 April 17, 2009 12:51 PM PDT
Hit me, only for a bout a minute a so. Troublesome because I was in the middle of a chat. It's been pretty flaky when I start it up, but it is still in beta, just like most of google's products.
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by ourconvo April 17, 2009 3:01 PM PDT
our app email was down for about an hour yesterday :( i have offline for my personal email but the inbox looked screwed up in firefox on my app email if i had offine enabled so it was not a save. i ended up making my app email offline available on Chrome.
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by mastavic April 20, 2009 12:16 PM PDT
The downtime hit me last time, and - guess what? - Gmail is down for me again. It went down about 15 minutes ago and hasn't come back up yet.
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by May 8, 2009 3:24 AM PDT
Today, 8th of May 2009, Gmail is experiencing a new outage for some users. See also message at http://news.google.nl/news/url?sa=t&ct2=nl_nl%2F0_0_s_0_0_t&usg=AFQjCNFwVS56wDT4KKaSNtH4qj7S3nfgJQ&cid=0&ei=WggESqDFHc3UjAeDqcnmAQ&rt=SEARCH&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmybroadband.co.za%2Fnews%2FInternet%2F7969.html .
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