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March 16, 2009 1:16 PM PDT

Mozilla says next Firefox likely months away

by Stephen Shankland

Mozilla had planned to release its new "Shiretoko" version of Firefox in early 2009, but with the scale of changes made to the open-source browser, a date halfway through the year now looks more realistic.

After releasing Firefox 3.1 beta 3 last week, the organization behind the browser said a fourth beta is planned--and with the new version number 3.5.

"There are no plans for a Beta 5 at this time, and after Beta 4 we'll be looking to move to a release candidate," said Firefox director Mike Beltzner in a statement. "Of course, we stand by our commitment to ship software when it's ready."

So when might the final version of Firefox 3.5 be ready, with at least two more test versions planned? Mozilla evangelist Chris Blizzard offered a loose schedule in a Twitter post Friday. "Firefox 3.5 will be out once we do one more beta and some release candidates. No dates, but probably 2-3 months or so," Blizzard said.

It's always difficult to draw the line between freezing features to concentrate on stabilizing software and extending development time to add a bit more technology to the new version; Mozilla decided the latter path was the better one.

"The increase in version number is proposed due to the sheer volume of work, which makes Shiretoko feel like much more than a small, incremental improvement over Firefox 3: TraceMonkey, video tag and player support, improvements to user controls over data privacy, significant improvements in the web layout and rendering platform, and much more," Beltzner said in an earlier blog post about the Firefox version number change.

The browser wars are in full force, with Microsoft on the cusp of releasing the new Internet Explorer 8, Apple offering a beta of Safari 4, Opera trying to offer faster downloads and faster JavaScript in its product, and Google, the 800-pound Internet Gorilla, offering Chrome.

Changes in Firefox 3.5 include faster execution of Web-based JavaScript programs, a private browsing mode, native support for the JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) technology for exchanging data between servers and browsers, and built-in audio and video abilities for bypassing Flash or other multimedia technologies.

Stephen Shankland writes about a wide range of technology and products, but has a particular focus on browsers and digital photography. He joined CNET News in 1998 and since then also has covered Google, Yahoo, servers, supercomputing, Linux and open-source software, and science. E-mail Stephen, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/stshank.
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by BlitzBoy1120 March 16, 2009 1:34 PM PDT
Hmm, I wish it would come a bit earlier, but I'm happy with Firefox 3, no need to rush. The only reason I'm not too happy with the betas is the lack of add-on compatibility, but that changes after a while.
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by rollcage333 March 16, 2009 1:54 PM PDT
Have you tried the nightly tester tools? Should fix issues with trying to run most add-ons (some themes might not look right though) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6543
by camdef March 16, 2009 1:44 PM PDT
Feeling the chrome, hein..
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by Mr. Dee March 16, 2009 2:07 PM PDT
With IE 8 RTM coming Monday, I think you will see a drove of Firefox users return to Microsoft's fold. Microsoft has added some innovative features to the update, its not faster than Ff, but its more reliable in my opinion. The new Facebook loads fast in Firefox, but does not render properly in it, but loads reasonably well in IE 8 and loads properly. I like the new Private Browsing feature for my moments of lust, color coordinated tabs makes it easy to move between open pages. Compatibility mode also smooths out issues I may have with certain web pages, Web Slices has been a bit unreliable for me, its slow, slow, slow, slow and not a lot of pages support it.
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by exactlyy March 16, 2009 3:30 PM PDT
i do not agree with you , once you get used to Firefox its almost impossible to look back @ IE , it'd be much easier to try other browser ,opera,chrome,safari.. but IE is just so dead..at least for me .
by sanjayb March 16, 2009 7:22 PM PDT
Mr Dee as usual is spewing his Microsoft is great, Microsoft is wonderful, Microsoft can't do no wrong, blah, blah, blah.
by soloincc March 17, 2009 4:55 AM PDT
its a bin NO NO for me to go back to IE. I agree with you that once you get dirty with Ff going back to IE is nigh impossible
by Endbringer March 17, 2009 5:33 AM PDT
I've been using FF since 0.8 and the only time I use IE is for Windows Updates and certain sites that use ActiveX. That's it. And the ActiveX thing has been going away for a while. FF is much faster, smaller, and has better features. Why would anyone with any knowledge of computers use IE?
by Dalkorian March 17, 2009 9:45 AM PDT
by Endbringer March 17, 2009 5:33 AM PDT
Why would anyone with any knowledge of computers use IE?

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They wouldn't. What does that say about Mr. Dee though? ;-)

Funny, I thought prostitution was illegal.
by NasRedDevil March 17, 2009 5:23 PM PDT
there's no way firefox user will return to IE... im sure they r agree.....
by March 16, 2009 2:41 PM PDT
What do they know that we don't?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiretoko_National_Park

The word "Shiretoko" is an Ainu word meaning "end of the earth".

Must be the "final" release.
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by March 16, 2009 2:43 PM PDT
P.S. And I feel fine.
by fooldog01 March 16, 2009 3:26 PM PDT
Im a big fan of Firefox. I still use IE7 as well and I love a lot of things about IE8. Ultimately the bottom line is these browser wars are VERY healthy for the industry so let the war rage on!
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by suryamp March 17, 2009 12:28 AM PDT
of course! everyone loves war!:P
by Someone-else March 16, 2009 6:34 PM PDT
Firefox 3.5 does look good, they've been doing the 3.1 betas for quite some time, but I think I'll wait a while before upgrading because of addons compatibility.
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by Jeff.Smith March 16, 2009 7:25 PM PDT
I don't know. I've tried out all the browsers, and perhaps it is just my personality, but to me I like simple controls with some icing on top. Chrome and Safari seem the way to go right now. Safari used a lot of what chrome started and made it a little bit better, but because it is still in beta it has some problems. Chrome is more stable but has less "icing." I think that firefox will need to use some of the things that Chrome and Safari have made popular if it wants to remain a contender in the browser wars. After all really the only reason someone would want to stay with firefox is because of the extensions which a good browser does not need.
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by Endbringer March 17, 2009 5:35 AM PDT
How can you claim Chrome is more stable than FF?
by Jeff.Smith March 17, 2009 8:52 PM PDT
@Endbringer, I was speaking in reference to Safari.
by ark_v2 March 18, 2009 9:50 PM PDT
@Endbringer, for me Chrome has been more stable than firefox. I've been using Firefox for ages but now that I use Chrome I don't miss it. But I don't agree with the extension part; what makes firefox great is the level of customization that can be achieved and still be stable and offer a good browsing experience. Of course it's not as fast as Chrome's but still better than many other around.
by HeavyJim March 16, 2009 10:36 PM PDT
If IE had an adblock close to ff, I would uninstall ff.
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by alskiontheweb March 17, 2009 7:22 AM PDT
Unfortunately, the longer this takes, the more likely the likes of Chrome will gain share. To me, TraceMonkey was a large enough change to warrant a release and leave the minor features for later. We'll see how much more Chrome grows its share while FireFox trys to figure out what features are important. Feature creep is usually the product of poor product management...or in this case, to much looking in the rear-view mirror.
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by tcr071 March 17, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
Chrome's market share is growing...? News to the rest of us...
by Commanderlewis March 17, 2009 10:37 AM PDT
I would love to see what they come up with for the new edition of Firefox.
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by Swimatm March 17, 2009 1:26 PM PDT
Ugh... It seems like all the other browsers are getting cool features while us Firefox user are sitting here waiting for a new version. And I will not use any other browser because Adblock plus is so great. It's seriously one of the greatest pieces of software ever written.
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by NasRedDevil March 17, 2009 5:29 PM PDT
relax man... once the new version release... it will be better than any other browser... n more faster...... just be patience... it says 2-3 month.......
by NasRedDevil March 17, 2009 5:22 PM PDT
i will still use firefox no matter what happen to the war of browser...... cuz once u use firefox, there's no way turning back to IE8 or whatever browser out there........... cant wait for the release!!!!
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by Angmarr March 24, 2009 9:41 PM PDT
all hail the Fox
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