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October 28, 2008 2:51 PM PDT

Opera CEO: Chrome has been very good for us

by Rafe Needleman
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Opera CEO Jon von Tetzchner was in town today, so I spent a few minutes with him talking about the browser company he co-founded way back in 1995. With browser battles raging, I wanted to know how this almost historic company was holding up.

Von Tetzchner says the launch of Google's Chrome had the effect of reminding people that there were alternative browser choices, which has accelerated downloads of the desktop product. And on the mobile front, where Opera has two products, the free Opera Mini (a proxy-based browser) and the Opera Mobile app, the success of the iPhone has likewise reminded users of other phones that they might want to browse the Web when they are out and about, leading again to a spike in usage of Opera's mobile products.

The Opera CEO told me his product has, in its long history, innovated on several fronts, such as tabbed browsing and memory use, and that other products are finally beginning to get it right. He also notes that Opera allows users to save browsing history and bookmarks (but not yet passwords) centrally, which makes it easier for them to move between multiple installations of the browser on multiple devices. Other features, like gesture-based control, are only now making their way to mainstream commercial products, like OSX.

Which is all well and good, but not enough to catapult Opera into a No. 1 spot on the desktop, given its historically limited resources compared to Netscape, Microsoft, and Google. On mobile devices it's another story, though: Opera has more mobile users than any other browser.

Opera makes only about 20 percent of its money the old-fashioned way--by monetizing the search bar on the desktop version of the product. The rest comes from its mobile and other versions (like its Wii browser), for which is is paid either a license or a usage fee (running the proxied Opera Mini costs the company money, which it passes on to customers).

I was also reminded that the browser market is globally fragmented. In some regions, such as Russia, Opera Desktop claims market share approaching 20 percent. In other regions, it's less than 1 percent. (Likewise, Maxthon (download) is much more popular in China than elsewhere).

I like von Tetzchner's goal to bring Opera to the world, especially to the 80 percent of the population that doesn't have Internet access. Many people actually have mobile phones that can connect to the Internet, but they're not yet online, and there are no high-priced iPhones in their near future. Opera Mini, which works on lower-powered devices, can help bridge the gap.

I have to admit that I am not an Opera user. At the moment, I am enamored of Chrome's speed and user interface frills. But one thing is sure: I consider myself less loyal to any browser than I did only a year ago. When Opera 10 comes out (next year), I'll give it a very thorough trial.

If you're curious and want to try Opera, we have the downloads.

Rafe Needleman writes about start-ups, new technologies, and Web 2.0 products, as editor of CNET's Webware. E-mail Rafe.
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by joetesta70 October 28, 2008 4:37 PM PDT
Opera is great, so is Firefox and IE8, but Chrome...not living up to the hype - the "sandbox" fgeature crashed on me the very first day! Some sandbox.

PS No Mac support for Chrome cause it's only 3% market share or something like that.
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by eltoro2827 October 28, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
loved ie8 ...but fell in love with firefox
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by hafenbrack October 29, 2008 5:47 AM PDT
How could you have "loved" IE8 and then fell in love with Firefox? There hasn't even been a final release candidate for IE8 yet...
by morlamweb October 29, 2008 8:50 AM PDT
@hafenbrack: they have released two betas of IE8, you know...
by spydrlink October 28, 2008 6:54 PM PDT
I'm using Opera right now, just recently switched to a Mac from Windows. My wife uses Firefox (which I prefer heavily) but she likes it more...and the lack of multiple profile switching in Firefox is why I started using Opera. So far, I like Opera to an extent. I love the speed! Superfast compared to FF in my opinion. But the lack of "extensions" and ease of installing extensions drive me nuts. The other thing is the lack of tab control options. On FF, I use TabMix Plus...can't beat it. Opera doesn't seem to have that much in the way of tab control. If they have extensions (not widgets) then I haven't found them yet or they're very well hidden.

But I don't think Opera will ever gain market share unless it starts making development into the browser with extensions dirt simple and easy to find.
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by plings October 29, 2008 11:50 AM PDT
Most people don't use extensions. And Opera has most of the useful Firefox extensions already installed and properly integrated.
by highlander2000 November 4, 2008 6:32 AM PST
I agree with plings. Most people don't use extensions. If you want to completely mod your browser by patchworking so many extensions, firefox is the way. But, I believe Opera is the better web browser out of the box. Also, I don't think Opera's lack of market share is related to lack of extensions. I think it's a lack of marketing on their end, lack of proper reviewing on tech sources' (such as CNET's) end, and lack of awareness on users end. For instance, the latest browser comparo did not feature Opera. I can also remember in the past when the former TechTV wrote-off Opera as just a copycat of Mozilla, of which they were enamored because they thought Mozilla invented tabbed browsing, when it's really the other way around.
by Efrow October 28, 2008 11:13 PM PDT
Opera is my favorite browser.
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by Efrow October 28, 2008 11:30 PM PDT
Opera is my favorite browser. I've used it since 3.6. I love being able to install it and set it up the way I want within about 60 seconds, with all my bookmarks synched, speed dial set up, and intuitive and easy mouse shortcuts all ready the way I want them. Yes, Firefox can kind of do what I want here, but it takes much longer to set up, searching and configuring all the plugins, and the mouse shortcut plugins do not compare at all for my needs. I still have Firefox since I can't get flash working consistently in Opera under 64-bit Ubuntu, and some sites work better under Firefox, but I'd much, much rather be browsing with Opera all the time if I could.

The innovator is often not the one to come out on top, and this is unfortunately the case with Opera. People used to roll their eyes when I talked about tabbed browsing and mouse shortcuts..."why not just use IE? what's the difference?". Then along came Firefox, and attitudes started to change.

Now it's all pretty standard. But I will remain a user until I can get the Firefox interface how I want it, and quickly and efficiently too. That seems unlikely.
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by highlander2000 November 4, 2008 6:37 AM PST
I totally agree with everything you've mentioned efrow. The former TechTV was notorious for giving Opera the shaft when it came to introducing tabbed browsing, and instead showered Mozilla/FF with all the praise for being slower and less customizable (interfacially).

Also, what you've mentioned about the bookmarks resonates with me. As a pharmacy student, I have to keep track of a prodigious number of resources and links, and Opera (and only Opera) has allowed me to neatly and completely organize them. A -total- lifesaver.
by anujbux October 29, 2008 1:08 PM PDT
Opera rocks!!!

Fire Fox was just hyped by Google, otherwise it has/ever had nothing to compare with Opera.
I never miss any extentions on opera that FireFox user talks about. I think most of the extentions are just for fun, they are no where needed in browsing. If any one find any features that FF(private browsing in my knowled) has and Opera doesn't has then please let us know.
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by Charbax October 29, 2008 2:37 PM PDT
Chrome is open source. You need to ask Opera how soon Opera is going to integrate the best features of Chrome if needed. Such as the Chrome V8 Javascript Engine, the auto-complete search integrated intelligent URL bar, the multi-process anti-crash system, the faster core and stuff like that. Surely Opera are working on integrating those features in the next Opera, if needed, but how soon will that happen?
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by SenatorlYon October 29, 2008 3:49 PM PDT
Opera CEO is right. If I did not used chrome I would not have notice the wide range of browsers out there. Firstly, Google Chrome, IT HAVE A MIND OF ITS OWN!!!, yeah :-(. Its interface is cool and all, kinda fast still, but I have a fear of Google. IE is just CRAp, although I use it once in a blue moon.
Firefox I have being using you for years and gotta admit /you have become BORING! or is it me? NOT.

And my adventure began. I tried browsers from A-Z, reading reviews after reviews. The worst thing almost all the browsers are based on IE or Firefox.
There it was Opera a new tool for me to explore as soon as was about give up.

Its ok, but when Firefox is better I will surely run back to it!!!
My entire University body are now using Opera.....
....For Now....
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by stigmattaman October 29, 2008 5:34 PM PDT
Opera rocks, easily the best. browser
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