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October 27, 2008 12:00 PM PDT

Vanno launching crowdsourced Better Business Bureau competitor (invites)

by Rafe Needleman

Vanno is a clever new business rating system that asks users to rate stories about companies as either serving to support or knock down their scores in several categories. It can be cathartic to review tales of company cruelty and malfeasance and ding the scores of the guilty firms. However, I can't yet recommend that you use those scores to modify your own consumer behavior.

For example, a story about a Southwest Airlines customer arrested upon landing because he made one too many trips to the lavatory will certainly get your dander up. So you click the button, indicating that you agree that this hurts the company's reputation, presumably in the categories of Human Rights and Customer Safety (it's hard to tell). But then you'll discover that Southwest is ranked No. 2 of 124 travel-based companies; its high scores in Community Involvement, Customer Service, and Environment (for an airline?) swamp the tale of the gestapo flight attendant and the sorry passenger.

Vanno users rate Southwest Airlines.

There's a lot of really interesting data in Vanno. But the paintbrushes the site uses to characterize companies (the scores) are too broad, and the rich details that go into the scores are not clearly attached to the scores themselves, although I'm sure they are under the hood. Co-founder Nick DiGiacomo told me, "We're completely transparent... The only proprietary feature is the Bayesian algorithm that we've developed to approximate how news is filtered by individual beliefs to create opinion, and how that opinion (and opinion about opinion) then moves through larger populations." The site is off to a good start, but the transparency needs work.

The site has tracking and social features: you can follow companies to get alerts when there's new news or ratings about them; or individuals if there are corporate critics you think have a lot to say.

My fundamental beef with Vanno is that it is based on news reports and users' rankings of those reports. The service doesn't fact-check the stories that go into its ratings, relying instead on users to vote stories up or down. But even crowds of users can get fooled; an erroneous story could end up exerting undue influence in rankings if enough users were taken in. It's likely that most rankings accurately reflect on their companies, and more importantly they will reflect how customers feel about companies; but I think there's still a significant margin for error in the scores and rankings.

Vanno is an interesting site to explore if you are curious about the practices engaged in by companies you patronize. There are 500 private beta invites set aside for Webware readers.

When you submit a story to Vanno you specify which parts of a company's reputation in impacts.

See also: Webware: GoodGuide will save your skin; also the Better Business Bureau, Dotherightthing, and MeasuredUp.

Rafe Needleman writes about start-ups, new technologies, and Web 2.0 products, as editor of CNET's Webware. E-mail Rafe.
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by humanssssss October 27, 2008 3:11 PM PDT
I contacted BBB a few times, they don't do jack. BBB is a bureaucratic mess that does nothing for consumers. Nowaday there are better information for me to not rely on BBB.
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by landonclark October 27, 2008 4:43 PM PDT
Wow. Thanks to all the Webware readers that have already signed up and checked us out. The response has been great.

And thanks to Rafe for the great writeup and well thought-out feedback about how to make Vanno better.

Landon Clark (Co-founder of Vanno)
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by ougrad1 October 28, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
dumb website.
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by matman0123 October 29, 2008 5:57 AM PDT
Humanassssss, your comment speaks volumes to the username that you assigned for yourself. The BBB is the greatest consumer advocate around. If you rely on any "anonyomous " site such as Vanno or the "a" list, all you can do is complain...but then again, maybe that is all that you are good for...complaining.

Educated consumers use the BBB knowing that if there is a problem with a company, the BBB will investigate and take appropriate action. So for those of you that are viewing this message, ignore the humanasssss and realize that the BBB is the real deal!
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