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September 3, 2008 3:38 PM PDT

EFF: We're concerned about Google's Omnibox

by Ina Fried

Privacy advocates are starting to sound the alarm over a feature in Google's Chrome that sends anything typed in the browser's Omnibox back to Google.

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Google told CNET News earlier Wednesday that it plans to store about 2 percent of the data it gets back, along with the IP address of the computer that sent it. Google said it won't receive or store data if users turn off the auto-suggest feature or if they select a default search provider other than Google or if they are using the product's "Incognito" mode.

Still, EFF staff technologist Peter Eckersley said in an interview that he is concerned about Google having yet another window into what the world is browsing.

"We're worried that Chrome will be another giant conveyer belt moving private information about our use of the Web into Google's data vaults," Eckersley said. "Google already knows far too much about what everybody is thinking at any given moment."

Eckersley did point out that there are several ways to keep the data from being sent to Google, but noted that there is still a lot of data that will head Google's way.

Because Chrome is open source, Eckersley suggested that one option would be for privacy-minded outsiders to create their own suggestion engine that sits on surfers' own PCs, offering some of the utility that Google provides, without having to send the data to its servers. He noted that Chrome, itself, already does this when a surfer uses Chrome in its more stealthy Incognito mode. In that case, all suggestions are based on a surfer's locally stored history.

"The addition of Incognito is great," he said, adding that Google is making some strides with Chrome, clearly recognizing that people want to be able to surf the Web without having a record of it stored in various places.

"They are making some initial moves in the directions of that," Eckersley said, but reiterated his concerns over how the Omnibox works.

"We are genuinely really worried about the Omnibox thing," he said. "It's just one more piece of the complete puzzle of Google seeing everything that everyone is doing."

Simon Davies, Founder of Privacy International and a senior fellow with the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) also expressed concern over the Omnibox feature.

"I'm astonished that these terms are sent to Google even without the return being hit," Davies said. "That is beyond anything that Google has ever contemplated before."

Davies said the lack of attention to privacy and less-than-clear disclosure of its information use is typical Google behavior.

"This is why Google is running into trouble with regulators in Europe," Davies said. "They will trip themselves up at some point very badly. The patience of regulators is growing thin."

Click here for full coverage of the Google Chrome launch.

Originally posted at Beyond Binary
During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by humanssssss September 3, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
Users should have their own privacy policy in place to ensure anything that is installed on their computer comply with their own privacy policy. Most companies who create application want to STEAL users data. Personal data is very important to a person survival and if in the wrong hand can incriminate him/her. Google has shown in the past to have violated the trust of its users by sharing personal data to the government. People are locked up because of this.
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by sdandrew75 September 3, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
Don't like it. Don't use it.
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by MamaGlue September 3, 2008 4:20 PM PDT
thats bad
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by n3td3v September 3, 2008 4:35 PM PDT
Spyware, FTW.
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by Vegaman_Dan September 3, 2008 6:39 PM PDT
We know not only what you actually typed, but now we also know what you didn't type, citizen. We know all about that 'typo' you did at 7:32 AM on September 3, 2008 that included the terms, "violence", "terrorism, and "Jello pudding pops'. You can expect a visit from our agents in the Google Patrol Cars any moment.
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by ericthepuce September 3, 2008 7:25 PM PDT
Every aspect of your "personal" information, likes and dislikes, shopping habits, etc., is known to any major company that wishes to obtain it. Google isn't doing anything different. Gathering that information to make Google "think" more like us is exactly why we all depend on them as our primary tool in everyday life now. I think that reading 1984 has made us all understandingly cautious, but we should be careful of viewing things as strictly black or white.
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by Quest4Knowledge September 3, 2008 7:28 PM PDT
I'll give Google the benefit of the doubt until Chrome is out of Beta... but Chrome installs numerous Google components that are not specifically called out in the EULA, although probably covered in the clever legalize in some manner. Unfortunately, these comoponents do not uninstall with Chrome, continue to run in the background on machines after Chrome is uninstalled.
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by murbo September 3, 2008 11:45 PM PDT
if you don't like it, don't install it, its that simple... unlike Internet Explorer or Safari.. or even Firefox, it doesn't install itself by default settings on your OS installation CD.
@humanssssss: people got locked up because of it? right, cuz they didn't do anything illegal.. only thing they did wrong was to use google. sheesh... like yahoo or ms wouldn't give out personal user info if the g-man asked them.. lol like anyone would ask ms for personal data collected by the search engine
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by DarkHawke September 5, 2008 5:10 AM PDT
It DOES install its own update monitor, exclusive of Chrome and running by itself on start-up. I know because after reading Quest4Knowledge's post above, I looked, found the little bugger and nuked it, i.e. stopped it from auto-running at start-up. Only Chrome shows up in the Add/Remove Programs
by docbob24503 September 4, 2008 5:56 AM PDT
Wake up, Neo...
Follow the white rabbit..
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by john55440 September 4, 2008 7:41 AM PDT
Just Say No to Big Brother Google. They are in the business of collecting personal information for advertising purposes, and that is the purpose of their products/services.
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by Kwasiowusu September 4, 2008 8:16 AM PDT
Walter Mossberg: IE 8.0 Trumps Chrome, Other Browsers:

The latest beta version of Internet Explorer is a "step forward in privacy protection," Mossberg says, citing IE 8's ability to prevent Web sites from collecting your personal data. That level of protection is something neither Chrome nor existing browsers like Firefox and Safari can match, while other concerns about Chrome and privacy have already emerged.

For all the hoopla over Chrome, "the second beta version of IE8 is the best edition of Internet Explorer in years," Mossberg declares in his review. "It is packed with new features of its own, some of which are similar to those in Chrome, and some of which, in my view, top Chrome's features."

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/52944/Privacy-Matters%3A-Mossberg-Says-IE-8.0-Trumps-Chrome%2C-Other-Browsers

It's easy. Avoid intrusive spyware, and Google KGB style spying on American citizens(Google co-founder Sergey Brin is Russian). JUST SAY NO TO CHROME!
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by Dalkorian September 4, 2008 8:46 AM PDT
Make sure to tell the Bill that you have done his bidding. Maybe he'll send you a check. He should, with all the prostituting you do for M$.

Hmm, when surfing websites you don't control, is it better to use an application that runs on top of an OS (like most applications do) or an application that is intimately tied into the OS? IE is the plague of the internet and needs to be killed in the most gruesome fashion. Period.

Note: I haven't installed Chrome myself and see no need at this point. When on a Mac, I'm perfectly happy with Safari. When not on a Mac, Firefox is the browser for me. If Chrome gets popular enough, I might give it a spin. But for now I also have issues with a new beta browser that reports everything I do back to the mother ship.
by umbrae September 4, 2008 9:11 AM PDT
I can understand sending the stuff typed in (it has to go to Google anyway right), but collecting and storing IP addresses is just stupid. Google was such a good company, but the "do no evil" motto was tossed in the bucket long ago.
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by Kwasiowusu September 4, 2008 9:11 AM PDT
@ Dalkorian : "Make sure to tell the Bill that you have done his bidding. Maybe he'll send you a check'

Naaaah.
I'll merely take some of that fat check Google is paying you to spew out Google mindless propaganda.

@ Dalkorian : "Hmm, when surfing websites you don't control, is it better to use an application that runs on top of an OS (like most applications do) or an application that is intimately tied into the OS?"

Ummm..the Google spyware in Chrome that records every keystroke you make, and sends all that data to the Google server, had nothing to do with Microsoft or Windows. It's a henious crime that was cooked up and carried by Google all by themselves.

@ Dalkorian : " IE is the plague of the internet and needs to be killed in the most gruesome fashion. Period"

IE 8 is a superior browser than Chrome. Period!
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